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Post# 1088136   9/6/2020 at 12:47 (1,298 days old) by AskoBoy (Sweden)        

I am obsessed with this washing machine as it may do a 60C wash in 50 min only if it it is a small load

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Post# 1088144 , Reply# 1   9/6/2020 at 13:19 (1,298 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        
I can imagine...

Wben I saw Asko machines for the first time on an expo in Brussels, I was stunned about the build quality and the easy way to program them. The four pre-set buttons, the LCD screen where u could easely program the machine. Jip, points for this version of an Asko washer!

Post# 1088147 , Reply# 2   9/6/2020 at 13:45 (1,298 days old) by AskoBoy (Sweden)        
Replying to askomiele

Many relatives of mine has Asko/Cylinda aswell
It is a common brand here in Sweden.
Only the wash-house has quicker. But that is not a surprise since they are made you know for the whole apartment building, But even then it isn't so much shorter.


Post# 1088149 , Reply# 3   9/6/2020 at 14:20 (1,298 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Asko Asea

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Hello Maximilian and a warm welcome to Automatic Washer , you will find a few Asko washers here in the archives, Ive had mine since 2001 under the Maytag Asko brand name because of the distributor rights here in the UK at the time...

These have worked tirelessly for 10 yrs and now in the vintage wash room where they perform on a regular basis, love the fact you can do a 95d n boil wash with 4 rinses and a 1600rpm spin in just an hour, total flexibility and so simple to operate ...

I also have the Asko 1300 toploader and a 1200 white set that doesnt have the drop down washer door !! I worked at an Independent Electrical Store in Manchester mid 80`s and they where the first to have Asko products on display, have loved them since then!!


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Post# 1088156 , Reply# 4   9/6/2020 at 15:37 (1,298 days old) by AskoBoy (Sweden)        
Replying to chestermikeuk

The cylinda/asko i have is about 7 years old (I believe), We got it 3 years ago as we couldn't affort to buy a brand new one but it works and acts like a brand new washer also top loaders are cool but i have never used one
And the machine on the pic looks really good
And yes Asko/Cylinda are of really good quality and they can work for 30-40+ years i believe


Post# 1088397 , Reply# 5   9/8/2020 at 00:47 (1,297 days old) by FreshNclean (WA)        
The recent asko

How do the Swedish asko compare to the international asko ?

Post# 1088567 , Reply# 6   9/9/2020 at 00:37 (1,296 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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My Swedish made Asko was bought new in 1997, is on its third motor, second drain pump, and second drive belt.  The timer has gone caput but I have one to replace it, just haven't had the time.  It still washes but I have to advance it manually.  It just keeps going and going.  I'd take another one but I don't know how the Gorenje machines are holding up yet....

I don't have an Asko dryer...gas is cheaper for me so I have two American gas dryers.


Post# 1088757 , Reply# 7   9/10/2020 at 08:45 (1,294 days old) by AskoBoy (Sweden)        
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Let me ask what model is it?
I really like the asko 12605


Post# 1088911 , Reply# 8   9/11/2020 at 04:25 (1,294 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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Mine is the WM80 aka 8005.  It was the only 120V model they sold in 1997, but it is a genuine "made in Sweden" machine complete with a heater.  Inside it has a huge step-up transformer and all the parts inside are 240V. 


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Post# 1088914 , Reply# 9   9/11/2020 at 04:41 (1,294 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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That model was only sold in the USA and perhaps Canada, right? The pictures are on the small side, but IIRC the temperature options were limited. Do you know at what temperatures it washes? Can it do a boil wash?

Post# 1088922 , Reply# 10   9/11/2020 at 06:03 (1,293 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Pour Louis

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These American Asko washers (8005) only had three wash temperatures; Hot-140F, Warm -50/50 tap hot and cold, finally Cold - tap cold water.

Machine had a 1450 watt heater so it could in theory heat tap water to hot (140F), but no option for boil washing.

www.manualslib.com/manual...

This Asko was rather a limited machine IMHO, but one they introduced to North American market that got around same issues Miele and Creda (who also introduced compact front loaders from Europe to market at same time), getting around 208v-240v electrical requirement.

Over years have seen more than a few early Asko units pop up; but always backed away. Even back before purchased Miele had hard about Asko washers going through motors, belts, drain pumps, etc... My Miele OTOH is > 20 years old (knock wood) and still has original motor. Yes, had a new drain pump installed about ten years ago, and other bits like shocks and suspension system.


Post# 1088974 , Reply# 11   9/11/2020 at 11:16 (1,293 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Launderess

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Thank you for the link! I love manuals, especially from machines that are out of the ordinary. And this Asko certainly is. I guess Asko wanted to put a machine on the American market with a control panel that was similar to an American toploader. I see the spin speed is also only 1000rpm, IIRC Asko's from that time spun at 1200rpm.

Earlier Asko (labeled Asea) were very sturdy built, especially the frame. But they had some weak spots, most of them were gone after 10 - 15 years.


Post# 1089056 , Reply# 12   9/11/2020 at 20:50 (1,293 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
YW Louis

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That quick start manual was only thing could find online for Asko 8005. Full owners manual likely would go into deeper details, especially about water temperatures.

I for one would be curious if 8005 could work as cold fill only, or would only do warm as 50/50 hot/cold tap water.

As for spin speed maybe the reduction in rpms from 1200 to 1000 came as result in changing power requirements from 208v-208v 50hz to 120v at 60hz. Spin speed would actually be about 10% faster at 60hz over 50hz, but maybe Asko had reasons for limiting things to 1000 rpms instead.

Think as "Cylinda" washers Asko units were great, but still had issues with longevity. They just didn't seem to have same build quality as Miele washers.






Post# 1089098 , Reply# 13   9/12/2020 at 08:02 (1,292 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I think hot was actually closer to 150 because it will get hotter than my water heater that was set on 140.  But it always does a good job.  I was actually looking at Miele and AEG back then too.  The Asko won because of the 120V model. 




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Post# 1089104 , Reply# 14   9/12/2020 at 08:58 (1,292 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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According to the manual it heats up to max. 140F.



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Post# 1146499 , Reply# 15   4/13/2022 at 19:19 (714 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
normal program

Did they have a normal program? I know they rename it the everyday program.

Post# 1146746 , Reply# 16   4/17/2022 at 06:18 (710 days old) by AskoBoy (Sweden)        
Normal program

Yes
This asko has 2 normal programs
Cottons heavy and cottons light however medium soiled items can still be washed on cotton light
The only real downside to this machine is that it does not have prewash. but other than that, it's amazing


Post# 1146779 , Reply# 17   4/17/2022 at 12:30 (710 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cottons programs

How do the cottons programs of heavy and light compare? What do you use the cottons heavy for? Can you use cold on the heavy cotton program if you want to wash sturdy colors?

Post# 1146796 , Reply# 18   4/17/2022 at 16:34 (710 days old) by AskoBoy (Sweden)        
Cotton

The only difference on this machine/generation is that Cotton Light has a shorter main wash. They get the same amount of rinses and both get a full 1600 rpm spin

Both programs are not limited in temp which means all tempatures including cold wash and 95 can be selected

The tempatures are Cold,30,40,50,60,70,80 and 95 degrees celsius
The spin speeds are No spin/rinse hold,400,600,800,1000,1200,1400 and 1600 rpm which means you get a variaty of tempatures and spin speeds to select from. More than most machines
It also has synthetics on 95 which is unique, they removed it from the later models but they have it on this one


Post# 1146822 , Reply# 19   4/17/2022 at 20:36 (710 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Was fairly common for older European washing machines to have an "Easy Cares" cycle that allowed temps ranging from hot to boil wash territory.

My Miele W1070 will allow 200 degrees F for delicates, easy cares along with normal cottons/linens.

What matters with synthetic fibers is more about drum rhythm, and cooling down wash before any spinning. This and limiting final spin to short durtion.

Polyester and other man made fibers often profit from a good hot wash. Commercial laundries do such fabrics at 140F to 160F, but they cool down gradually and of course don't extract between changes of water.


Post# 1146824 , Reply# 20   4/17/2022 at 20:42 (710 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
colors on cotton

Have you tried washing colors made of cotton or linen or a blend of the 2 on cottons 30 or cold? How did it turn out?

Post# 1146841 , Reply# 21   4/18/2022 at 02:59 (710 days old) by rudin1969 (Italy)        

What matters with synthetic fibers is more about drum rhythm

Why do you think many synthetic cycles use exactly the same drum rhythms as cotton cycles?


Post# 1146842 , Reply# 22   4/18/2022 at 03:23 (710 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Varies by machine...

On my AEG washer "Cotton/Synthetics" apparently has more aggressive washing than "Easy Cares".


Post# 1146850 , Reply# 23   4/18/2022 at 08:06 (709 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
What matters with synthetic fibers is more about drum rhythm

Although it is true that typically the wash rhythm is gentler for the "synthetic" cycle than for the "cotton" cycle, I am not sure this is what matters the most.

The main characteristic of "synthetic" cycles is to prevent sudden changes of temperature, which would "set" the wrinkles.

Typically, if the wash temperature is above 40 °C (104°F) at the end of the wash, cold water is added to cool down before draining so that when cold water is used for the rinse there is no thermal shock.



Post# 1146851 , Reply# 24   4/18/2022 at 08:30 (709 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
I Said!

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"What matters with synthetic fibers is more about drum rhythm, and cooling down wash before any spinning. This and limiting final spin to short duration."

Why is everyone harping on about only first part?


Post# 1146876 , Reply# 25   4/18/2022 at 13:28 (709 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
cylinda and clothes

Most of my clothes are sturdy cottons, if not all of them. So how does the cottons wash rhythm compare to synthetics? I would rarely use synthetics anyway.


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