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Thread Number: 84571
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
UK market front & top loaders 195? to 1990 - theories, queries & rarities |
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| Post# 1089866 , Reply# 1 9/19/2020 at 03:31 (1,307 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Attached a link to Mike's twin tub thread below .... .... noting that there is some information, provided by 'anthony' concerning the Frigidaire Jetamatic starting at reply #228 onwards CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK | ||
| Post# 1089870 , Reply# 5 9/19/2020 at 04:35 (1,307 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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ACME Automatic ... continued recently another collector got in touch with me to say that he was watching some old episodes of Crossroads on YouTube and a machine he had never see before had appeared. He popped me the link and low and behold - the machine appears at 16m 20s in! Paul CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK
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| Post# 1090174 , Reply# 10 9/21/2020 at 17:14 (1,305 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
Creda Debonair 10300 | ||
| Post# 1090179 , Reply# 11 9/21/2020 at 18:43 (1,305 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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Did the Which? magazine ever get around to doing a test report on the ACME automatic? | ||
| Post# 1090345 , Reply# 12 9/23/2020 at 09:53 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Great idea Paul I've been though my collection of leaflets and looked for brochures for our earliest Automatics here in the UK. Here's some machines that we all know and some leaflets hopefully some of you will not have seen before (or too many times!). Cheers, Alan | ||
| Post# 1090346 , Reply# 13 9/23/2020 at 09:57 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Imperial Superautomatic
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| Post# 1090348 , Reply# 14 9/23/2020 at 10:06 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Hoover Keymatic | ||
| Post# 1090349 , Reply# 15 9/23/2020 at 10:13 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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English Electric Automatic | ||
| Post# 1090350 , Reply# 16 9/23/2020 at 10:17 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Thor washer and dishwasher | ||
| Post# 1090351 , Reply# 17 9/23/2020 at 10:25 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Bendix Triomatic | ||
| Post# 1090352 , Reply# 18 9/23/2020 at 10:39 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Hotpoint toploader | ||
| Post# 1090353 , Reply# 19 9/23/2020 at 10:47 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Servis and Parnell machines There is of course the first Servis top loaders and Parnell machines to add here, which sadly I do not have any info on, but would welcome others to share if they have., would be great to see any literature on these which is out there. Cheers, Alan | ||
| Post# 1090354 , Reply# 20 9/23/2020 at 10:51 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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And finally for today Zanussi Here's a strange machine I never saw in the flesh, a top loader H-Axis machine (I assume?) from Zanussi. Has anyone ever seen one?
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Post# 1090356 , Reply# 21 9/23/2020 at 11:13 (1,303 days old) by vacbear58  (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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H Axis Zanussi
Hi Alan
Thank for posting all these great brochures, much appreciated :) Sadly I have not seen the H Axis Zanussi and I would love a front view of that dishwasher too. Moving down though I have seen the machine shown at the front of the coupon - it's a DL6 washer same as my mother bought in April 1975 Al | ||
| Post# 1090379 , Reply# 23 9/23/2020 at 12:57 (1,303 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK) | ||
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Zanussi P5 I have some technical information on the P5 which may be of interest: | ||
| Post# 1090381 , Reply# 24 9/23/2020 at 13:04 (1,303 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Zanussi P5 Oh yes that is super interesting, so it had no suspension then looking at the diagrams. Will read all of that later on! Thanks for posting. | ||
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Post# 1090383 , Reply# 25 9/23/2020 at 13:11 (1,303 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Here is a Dutch ad of the Zanussi P5. It was a compact machine with even a space for the hoses and the cord. You could easily move it around when the wheels were down.
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| Post# 1090466 , Reply# 26 9/24/2020 at 08:08 (1,302 days old) by RobM (Buxted) | ||
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| Post# 1090486 , Reply# 27 9/24/2020 at 09:17 (1,302 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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New Pol You're welcome Rob, I was a prolific collector at one point, I have thousands! Here's a rarity machine I think for the time. | ||
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Post# 1090519 , Reply# 30 9/24/2020 at 13:40 (1,302 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Post# 1090524 , Reply# 31 9/24/2020 at 14:27 (1,302 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Holy BAT Underware ! "AJETACTION"  Wow a "new" Frigidaire word after all these years !! OMG Louis love the Heiroglyphs on the wash diagram for the P5 - we need a full dictionary !! Robert incorporate these symbols so we can post at will ! Love how Mommy encourages little johnny to love the Hotpoint, now thats 20th century living ---growing gays all over.
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Post# 1090530 , Reply# 32 9/24/2020 at 14:50 (1,302 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Hoover Keymatic --CANDY???? | ||
| Post# 1090542 , Reply# 37 9/24/2020 at 15:54 (1,302 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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Why is it the old adverts always make things look so glamorous? I want the New Imperial Superautomatic at 79Gns (or Ģ82-19s-0d). | ||
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Post# 1090619 , Reply# 40 9/25/2020 at 05:19 (1,301 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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UK market front & top loaders 195? to 1990 - theories, queri
Excellent thread Paul, its certainly flushing out some of the rare & obscure automatics, I do like those Zanussi H-axis little autos, and great to see the diagrams and specs of it, weighed down by the concrete for stability ,
reminds me of the semi auto Siemens that my school friends mum had. Alan , Many Thanks for adding more of your fab collection of brochures, always a pleasure to peruse and see the detail. All we need now for Darren bendix Launderam in Lincoln is the Triomatic- what a boom that must have been to be able to dry. My gran worked for a lady Dr who had this and always used her trusty Creda Debonair before using the dryer. Thanks Callum for the information, its good to know the details of companies and how they came to be .. | ||
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Post# 1090632 , Reply# 41 9/25/2020 at 06:53 (1,301 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1090633 , Reply# 42 9/25/2020 at 07:06 (1,301 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Zanussi ad
The Zanussi ad doesn't give much details about that particular model but sums up the advantages of the Zanussi brand.
1. Simple control. One dial only, 10 - 16 wash programmes 2. Absolute safety. Lid is locked during operation, heating doesn't engage when there is no water in the drum and there is the required aerator. 3. Cleaner laundry because of the drum with 2040 holes and a fast pump so the dirt doesn't stick to the laundry. 4. For every fibre. A programme for baby laundry and every detergent can be used including biological detergent. 5. Long life expectancy. Everything that gets in touch with water is absolutely rust free. And a Zanussi works practically silent. 6. International reputation. Zanussi is one of the biggest manufacturers and is sold in over 100 countries. There is a ver strict quality control. 7. Service and guaranty. Only the best dealers are allowed to sell Zanussi. And if something goes wrong the own service stations guarantee a swift service at home. | ||
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Post# 1090636 , Reply# 43 9/25/2020 at 07:33 (1,301 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Here is another ad of the Zanussi P5. This ad gives more details about this machine.
Hello! Hello! Apartment dwellers and people living in small dwellings. Attention please! If you had to say no to a washing machine because you didn't have the space for it, you can say yes now to the Zanussi P5, the only washing machine in the Netherlands that is compact but complete. Minimum sizes go together with maximum performance. The Zanussi P5 is a dwarf with a giant capacity. Zanussi 5 kilo capacity washing machine. The Zanussi P5 has casters so it can be moved around easily to the sink and to the location you keep it. The Zanussi P5 can be kept in a hallway or next to a wash basin (without being annoying) it fits neatly under a kitchen table or is a table by itself (the Zanussi P5 is available with a wood top) At the bottom some advantages are being mentioned again. Programmes: 1. Cottons, heavy soiled 2. Whites 3. Whites, less soiled 4. Diapers 5. Colourfast colours 6. Not colourfast colours 7. No iron cotton 8. Strong synthetics 9. Delicate synthetics 10. Wool and silk Plus: Extra rinse and spin. The Zanussi P5 is a select machine but not more expensive than a normal fully automatic washing machine. 889,- guilders. In brown 919,- guilders. You get a full year warranty and the assurance of a good and swift Zanussi service. Zanussi has a great network of renowned dealers and above that own service stations in all parts of the Netherlands. | ||
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Post# 1090646 , Reply# 44 9/25/2020 at 09:35 (1,301 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 1090657 , Reply# 45 9/25/2020 at 11:13 (1,301 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Thank you for the info and videos Louis of the Zanussi machine, from a small picture a few days ago I have certainly learnt and appreciated a lot of information! Looks a really nice little machine. Cheers, Alan | ||
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Post# 1090754 , Reply# 50 9/26/2020 at 06:11 (1,300 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Zanussi and AEG
Paul,
The difference between the A35 and A38 models was the spinspeed. The A35 had a spinspeed of approx. 500 rpm (520 iirc) and the A38 approx. 800 (820 iirc). The Z14 my grandparents had spun at 380 or 400 rpm. The T must have been an extra feature, but I don't know what that would be. If I have a guess, it could be a different material for the lid, but I don't really know. The spring suspension on the AEG made higher spinspeeds possible. The last model, the Lavamat 240's speed was 850rpm. The Zanussi and Privileg machines didn't go higher than 320rpm, due to a total lack of suspension. So the AEG might perform a little dance, but you got drier laundry in the end. | ||
| Post# 1090866 , Reply# 53 9/27/2020 at 06:08 (1,299 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Here's the actual machine many years later (following two house moves), minus some brown trim which my mum cut off as she preferred the white underneath. I was (again) allowed to take the back off for a school project. Cheers, Alan | ||
| Post# 1090868 , Reply# 54 9/27/2020 at 07:24 (1,299 days old) by RobM (Buxted) | ||
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Post# 1090877 , Reply# 55 9/27/2020 at 09:01 (1,299 days old) by Chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Servis MK72
Wow Alan , what a story , I've heard that so many times either they sit in front of a new auto all night washing or as happened with your parents are confused by the time lol, oh dear I can imagine your reaction when the book got ripped 🙄
We finally got mine working last month with the a heater donated and fitted few years ago by Chris and a final push by Richard & Steve who took the cabinet off to reveal the tub on chassis, a 3 legged suspension and re tightened the bearings in the separate cast carrier, it really was ahead of it's time with the suspension etc, I'll do a separate thread on it shortly. Couldn't make out the last pic but looks quite good with the fascia de constructed
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| Post# 1090886 , Reply# 56 9/27/2020 at 10:13 (1,299 days old) by Fredriksam (Sweden) | ||
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Zanussi P5 Heres a video where you see a Privileg RS350 which is bsically the same as Zanussi P5 machine. You see some of the inner workings of the machine in the clip. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Fredriksam's LINK | ||
| Post# 1090887 , Reply# 57 9/27/2020 at 11:12 (1,299 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Zanussi P5 Thank you very much Fredrik for posting that video, very interesting. Cheers, Alan | ||
| Post# 1090888 , Reply# 58 9/27/2020 at 11:17 (1,299 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Servis MK72 Thanks Mike and Rob, for your nice comments. Mike your pair of Servis's look amazing, really great side by side they look in fabulous condition. | ||
| Post# 1090987 , Reply# 59 9/28/2020 at 06:48 (1,298 days old) by beehiveboy (Northamptonshire, England ) | ||
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Post# 1090993 , Reply# 60 9/28/2020 at 07:09 (1,298 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Servis
Alan, its not bad but its going for a cabinet re-spray now we know it all works, it was from a house that kept it in a rustic pine kitchen, hidden inside a cupboard with a round pin 15amp plug on which was draped over the front of the washer when door closed, hence a number of lovely round pin holes dotted along the plinth line, which has been painted over, nothing that my cousin, the sprayer of the keymatics cant fix !!
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Post# 1090994 , Reply# 61 9/28/2020 at 07:21 (1,298 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Philips
Hello Paul
Thats a great brochure from an ere when Philips started to be at their peak for laundry, I think the next brown styled ranged proved to be the best selling. Had to take a double take as one of the pics looks just like the Philips display in the Calderdale Museum in Halifax that took the full foyer display from the original Philips factory and UK head office in Hipperholme. Have you been to the museum yet Paul ? Cheers for showing the brochure.
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Post# 1090998 , Reply# 62 9/28/2020 at 07:38 (1,298 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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@beehiveboy
Sorry Paul, here I go again ....
I believe the Philips front loader was the last of that particular series which were made in France and Slimstar made in the UK. I have never seen that particular version of the Slimstar only the earlier verion with blue trim. No, I dont have one of those but our good friend SESteve in London does. The first UK Philps auto was also a top loading H Axis machine with the direction of travel of the tumble going from side to side rather than front to back. In the late(ish) 1970s Philips flip flopped the production so that the top loaders were made in France and the front loaders in the UK - made sense as that lined them up to their main respective markets. The front loader looks quite similar although without the buttons (one to open the door and one to open the powder drawer) - the Slimstar was rather different (a bit narrower) with the controls on an upstand at the back although very similar in style to the UK front loader. Now, if you care to take a trip up north ....... Actually there are two very similar sets at home - the Philips 082 (this model was actually the first automatic washer & drier I ever owned, bought in 1980) and Mike has an Electra branded version with brown fasica but otherwise apparently identical. I think Mike has a couple of other Philips models in storage too Al | ||
| Post# 1091027 , Reply# 64 9/28/2020 at 12:44 (1,298 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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p.s noticed that the Mk72 in the brochure has black switches. Mike's Mk75 supadrt has a black switch - must be an early machine! Paul | ||
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Post# 1091128 , Reply# 65 9/29/2020 at 04:22 (1,297 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Servis
Alan I take it thats the serial number marked on the instruction booklet ?
Servis MK72/ 150372 , 26/04/75 (white switches) Mine is Servis MK72/ 129630 , (white switches) Paul do you think the black switches are the early models ? I never saw any with black switches and always thought they where later, I have another supa dry with white switches but the fascia was a more plastic printed so assumed that was later, must check the serial number against the current show model !! | ||
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Post# 1091788 , Reply# 70 10/3/2020 at 07:36 (1,293 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1091801 , Reply# 71 10/3/2020 at 09:00 (1,293 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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@matchbox Paul
Do you have any brochures on the Indesit Omega? We had one back in the late 80's it was grey and black and had a ripping 1200 spin..... Sadly the bearings went so the wiring and timer was transplanted into a brown facia model which had the 1100 spin or at least it did until I swapped the innards :) It was a superb machine and the only I know of at the time that did a tumble fill. Sold it to my sister after her Indesit L8 died she had it for a good few years until her house got flooded and because the laundry was a step down from the rest of the ground floor it filled up first and got the washer and dryer both replaced with new on the insurance with like for like.
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| Post# 1091834 , Reply# 72 10/3/2020 at 14:17 (1,293 days old) by ServisChris (Southampton, Hampshire UK) | ||
Indesit Series 2000
As Paul said, I recently picked up a 1983 Indesit Series 2000 model 2256E. The machine is pretty much brand new, Its an 1100rpm brushed motor machine with variable temperature and spin speed dials...
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| Post# 1092291 , Reply# 74 10/7/2020 at 12:53 (1,289 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
During my time at Frigidaire in the 70s 
There was an automatic front loader [The Auto 50]running along side the Frigidaire TTs .This was in the early 70s when Auto washers were just sort of catching on over here .It was a basic machine [800 spin i think] but sold very well. Later in the decade it would morph into the Auto 51 [same machine just some cosmetic changes .I have never seen one since that time .Also worked a lot on the similar Ariston front loaders
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Post# 1092319 , Reply# 75 10/7/2020 at 16:27 (1,289 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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| Post# 1094308 , Reply# 77 10/24/2020 at 08:28 (1,272 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Back to the 1960s .... and a bit of Duomatic action, in the form of the 'AUTOQUEEN' from 1964 ....
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| Post# 1094309 , Reply# 78 10/24/2020 at 08:32 (1,272 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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March 2nd 1964 and Duomatic were staring to advertise their automatic offering, in the form of the 'AUTOMASTER'. I state the date cause here we have a machine which I think is derived from a san Giorgio model ... | ||
| Post# 1094310 , Reply# 79 10/24/2020 at 08:36 (1,272 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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.... but by March 30th 1964, the AUTOMASTER had morphed into something visually a lot more basic. Somewhere in March, looks like they settled on getting into bed with CASTOR and started to sell a version of the CASTOR Queenmatic instead ....
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| Post# 1094312 , Reply# 80 10/24/2020 at 08:39 (1,272 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Link below to one a series of superb Italian adverts for the CASTOR Drymatic (also sold in the UK) and the new CASTOR Queenmatic ... CLICK HERE TO GO TO matchboxpaul's LINK
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Post# 1094316 , Reply# 81 10/24/2020 at 09:12 (1,272 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Was there any particular association between GM Europe (Vauxhall/Opel) and Frigidaire appliances in Europe? Of course they were associated in the US; and we see the Frigidaire/Holden's advertisement pop up every now and again from Australia, but was there any connection? From what it appears here it was more a labelling thing (getting a full line of appliances from around the region) rather than any sort of manufacturing thing.
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Post# 1094774 , Reply# 83 10/27/2020 at 07:19 (1,269 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 1094939 , Reply# 84 10/28/2020 at 13:53 (1,268 days old) by Alanlondon (London) | ||
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Thank you for sharing Louis, very interesting | ||
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Post# 1094948 , Reply# 85 10/28/2020 at 14:57 (1,268 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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You're welcome Alan!
But wait, there's more... Some interesting videos about the Rex P33, even a few videos with a spin cycle. CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK | ||
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Post# 1095909 , Reply# 86 11/5/2020 at 04:39 (1,260 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire
Hi Jamie (Jamiel) in the UK Frigidaire was a subsidiary of General Motors and designed and produced most of their own appliances or under license etc.
We had a range of Frigidaire Dri-Spin Spin Dryers designed and produced here, a Frigidaire Twintb and the very unique Frigidaire Jetamatic Top Loader like the Unimatic but had a powerful 3kw heater for the UK water supply. Great products , the spin dryers had a big cast iron cradle which supported the heavy vitreous enamel spinner drum, many about today !! Heres the first spinner in the video and 2nd in pics. This post was last edited 11/05/2020 at 05:39 | ||
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Post# 1095910 , Reply# 87 11/5/2020 at 04:41 (1,260 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire UK
The Frigidaire Mastertwin was a family favourite as seen the the British Twintub Thread. (Killer Heels optional for use ha ha )
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Post# 1095911 , Reply# 88 11/5/2020 at 04:44 (1,260 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire
We also had a Frigidaire Top Loading H-axis washer dryer using residual drying, this was made in France and sold here.
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Post# 1095912 , Reply# 89 11/5/2020 at 04:47 (1,260 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire UK
And finally the elusive "Jetamatic" top loading automatic based on the Rollamatic design but with added feature of 3 kw water heater .
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Post# 1095913 , Reply# 90 11/5/2020 at 05:57 (1,260 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Rex / Zanussi P5
A great selection of videos Louis, Thanks for sharing, Sebastian Candybimatic has a lovely collection. I love this style of wshing machine having grown up with wringers and twintubs i was blown away when I saw my school friends mum who had returned from living in Germany using a H-axis single tub manual washing machine, not even semi automatic, just the simple drum with one fill / empty pipe.!!
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Post# 1095923 , Reply# 91 11/5/2020 at 07:08 (1,260 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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Jetamatic interesting to read on page 4 of Mike's great brochure: "Unique Simplicity. Frigidaire's patented Roller-matic mechanism is exclusive to Frigidaire. It needs an absolute minimum of maintenance because there is so little to go wrong... etc."
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Post# 1095933 , Reply# 92 11/5/2020 at 08:00 (1,260 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Rollermatic / Jetamatic / Unimatic
Cheers Chris glad youre hawkeye, lol, have ammended,
So the spin speed is saying pulling 191 G`s am assuming this is less than the Unimatic at 1140rpm ? Non around that we know of alas...only ever saw the turquoise Frigidaires in the Launderettes.. Youll have to post new videos of your round Frigidaire with pipe stopper !!
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Post# 1096017 , Reply# 93 11/5/2020 at 22:14 (1,259 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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| Post# 1096033 , Reply# 94 11/6/2020 at 01:43 (1,259 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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Heating the water in the Jetamatic I'm curious to know how the water was heated in the Jetamatic, it mentions 'overflow rinse' so I assume that it's a solid wash tub? In that case did it heat it's water in the base of the machine and then pump it to the tub later? | ||
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Post# 1096037 , Reply# 95 11/6/2020 at 03:51 (1,259 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire
Hi Jamie Frigidaire UK Domestic Appliances was a subsiduary of General Motors but a stand alone company, the factory was not linked to the car plants but its own factory & workforce in North London & Birmingham.
Nothing to do with another manufacturer and badged appliances , totally stand alone company !!
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Post# 1096038 , Reply# 96 11/6/2020 at 03:54 (1,259 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire JetaMatic
Hi Alan as far as am aware it was solid tub with heater in base recess like Hotpoint TL ? Unless any engineers know different ? Fascination machine, never saw one or even in shops etc, mainly the spinners
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| Post# 1096039 , Reply# 97 11/6/2020 at 04:38 (1,259 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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thanks Mike so I guess it was continually overflowing and recycling the heated water in the base to the tub? | ||
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Post# 1096040 , Reply# 98 11/6/2020 at 05:05 (1,259 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire Jetamatic
Hi Alan, It was a static fill & Heat , then when at righ temp you selected washtime ?
I think the overflow was only for the rinse.. Programmes are if my eyes are right: RHS Control, Fill & Heat, Empty, Spin, Fill 1, Rinse, Off then Fill & Heat, Spin, Fill 1, Rinse, Spin Dry LHS Programme & Temp dial - Whites Wash + PreWash, Whites Wash, Colours, Man Made Drip Dry, Blankets, Woollens, Soak This post was last edited 11/06/2020 at 05:31 | ||
| Post# 1096045 , Reply# 99 11/6/2020 at 06:23 (1,259 days old) by alanlondon (London) | ||
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fascinating Mike, so likelihood is then it filled the outer tub, heated the water and then pumped this into the tub for the wash action to start. I guess a bit like the Parnell I assume? | ||
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Post# 1096054 , Reply# 100 11/6/2020 at 08:01 (1,259 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire UK
I wouldnt think so Alan, the Parnall has a massive outer tub to hold an inner tub full of water ?
Question for the MultiMatic gang, Does the Multimatic have a solid tub and outer tub liner ? or inner tub with holes ? Judging by You Tube they all look solid, which does beg the question Alan if heated in the outer tub how big would it have to be to then fill the inner tub and how is it pumped ? | ||
| Post# 1096108 , Reply# 101 11/6/2020 at 16:51 (1,259 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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the Jetamatic | ||
| Post# 1096111 , Reply# 102 11/6/2020 at 17:13 (1,259 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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the Jetamatic
As far as i can remember [It is some 45 years ago]there was no recirculating water .Once full if the water was not hot enough the heater came on .once at the right temp the jet action starts .Once the washing is finished the machine spins then fills with cold water the jet action starts the machine fill right up tp the overflow then the pump starts then another spin .more fresh water [cant remember how many rinses ]then the final spin .The machine did use loads of water and as i have said before if overloaded the wash was poor. The pump was large and quite powerful resulting in a larger than average drain hose .I only ever saw these machines in well to do homes doctors .vicarages .dentists ect where there was usually a wash house for the machine to live in .I suspect it was far too big to have in the average UK kitchen .The jetamatic was larger than the Hotpoint and in my opinion not as efficient. Would love to get my hands on one now just for old times sake .I still have a scar on my little finger where i i got my hand caught up in the jetamatics inner workings
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| Post# 1096168 , Reply# 103 11/7/2020 at 06:04 (1,258 days old) by Keymatic (London / UK) | ||
Jetamatic... | ||
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Post# 1096171 , Reply# 104 11/7/2020 at 06:36 (1,258 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Jetamatic
Thanks for the clarification Anthoney, yes would be great to find one for old times sake.
Question the Hotpoint has holes in the inner drum so when filled the water and heat energy gets into the washtub from the heater in the outer tub base. Do we know if the Jetamatic had a tub like the frigidaire spinner with holes etc, because if its solid it must dual fill both tubs inner and outer then heat and the energy transferred (quite innificiently would have thought ) to water at top of inner tub ? Mind a hot fill would help immensely with heating etc. Heres the Which 1969 report for comparison with the leading brands Hoover and English Electric.
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| Post# 1096237 , Reply# 105 11/7/2020 at 13:46 (1,258 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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the jetamatic
i am sure the inner tub had holes in it [an awful lot of water for that heater to heat up especially if its starting from cold].I have been racking my brains trying to remember how the rollermatic drive worked [am getting nowhere ] All i can remember is that the front of the machine came off making it easy to see what was going on while the machine was in action. What i can remember is that the machine had a clutch meck for use when spinning it used large cork like rings about the size of a CD as clutch plates .the motor would start up for a spin and the tub would gradually some up to speed rather like the Hotpoint TT .The jetaction was caused by a steel arm riding over nylon rollers but just how it worked i cant remember .Its only 2 or 3 years ago when i threw out folders full of diagrams /price lists exploded and parts lists for all the machines .If only i had kept them .I have just made contact with a guy who was my manager way back then [He is 93]I will talk to him .maybe he can shed some light
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Post# 1096344 , Reply# 106 11/8/2020 at 06:57 (1,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire Rollermatic mechanism | ||
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Post# 1096346 , Reply# 107 11/8/2020 at 07:03 (1,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire rollermatic / Jetamatic | ||
| Post# 1096431 , Reply# 108 11/8/2020 at 16:46 (1,257 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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yes
Wow .i haven't seen that for a very long time .[you can see how easy it would be to damage ones fingers]Yes that's exactly what i remember .All done with rollers and you can just see the top of the large pump on the motor shaft .Also the arm going up and down .that pump can really move water. The jetamatic has its own distinct sound as it does its thing .While the actual motor is very quiet the mechanism makes a sort of chuka chuka sound as the agitator [if you can call it that]goes up and down .great to see all that stuff again .
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Post# 1096618 , Reply# 109 11/10/2020 at 05:45 (1,255 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 1096619 , Reply# 110 11/10/2020 at 05:47 (1,255 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Frigidaire UK | ||
| Post# 1096666 , Reply# 111 11/10/2020 at 15:48 (1,255 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
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practically
all the jetamatics I saw were in well off large homes with good central heating systems supplying plenty of hot water. at this time the hot water in our house was supplied by an immersion heater with the only other heating in the coming from the gas fire in the living room although we did have one of those electric geyser things [made by Creda]for small amounts of hot water in the kitchen. I once went to a large house in Middlesbrough where the occupants had moved over from the states bringing their Frigidaire washer and dryer with them .They were both installed in the large wash house of a rambling vicarage .the machines had big transformers allowing them to run on 240 volts .Both machines were in a canary yellow colour with chrome control panels mounted on fake wood consoles. I never touched the dryer m but the washer was basically a jetamatic in a fancy cabinet. Getting back to the Jetamatic i am sure there is a ring of holes under the bottom vane of the agitator and slits around the rim of the tub
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| Post# 1096707 , Reply# 112 11/11/2020 at 02:44 (1,254 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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| Post# 1097048 , Reply# 113 11/14/2020 at 12:57 (1,251 days old) by Keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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Jetamatic....
Evening all, finally found the time to take a quick pick of the Frigidaire Jetamatic pamphlet/leaflet. Cheers Keith
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Post# 1097106 , Reply# 114 11/15/2020 at 04:40 (1,250 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 1100808 , Reply# 116 12/16/2020 at 06:08 (1,219 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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1977 Washing Machine Report
Hello Michael
Was it a Which consumer report at all do you think ? 1977 was a great era for reviewing what to buy, pity they dont make it as simple today !! Heres a link to the 1977 Which Consumer report, Enjoy the read !! CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK
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| Post# 1131021 , Reply# 117 10/12/2021 at 12:53 (919 days old) by Fredriksam (Sweden) | ||
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Zanussi P33 P5 Found these videos of another version of the Zanussi P33 also known as P5. The machine in the videos are called Tatramat Mini 246 but its the very same drum in it as it is with Zanussi p5 + P33. | ||
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