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Post# 1092182   10/6/2020 at 13:20 (1,269 days old) by smurdle450 (California)        

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Upon scouring a local dealer's website, I came across this new GE washer which appears to be a competitior to the Maytag MVWP575 commercial grade machine. It claims it has "upgraded parts" and has a more "commercial-ish" appearance.

Anyone know anything about this?


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Post# 1092185 , Reply# 1   10/6/2020 at 14:09 (1,269 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
Hmmm.

Looks like it may not be a dual action agitator on this model. Also, it sounds like it fills by alternating hot and cold with ATC for all cycles. With COVID-19 not going away anytime soon, it is ridiculous we cannot wash clothes with hot water. It is difficult to find Lysol laundry sanitizer, and I don't buy it these detergents work better in cooler temps. Try washing plates in barely warm water.

If this is true, the Maytag still holds the overall second favorite for me but first when it comes to cleaning. The dumbed down temp seems to only affect the Normal Eco cycle.

Someone here needs to head a kickstarter project to bring back the tried and true toploads.


Post# 1092187 , Reply# 2   10/6/2020 at 14:27 (1,269 days old) by smurdle450 (California)        
Not dual action

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You are correct that this machine doesn't use the dual action agitator. It uses the so called "heavy duty agitator" that the GTW330 uses. to be fair it does seem like a decent agitator.

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Post# 1092188 , Reply# 3   10/6/2020 at 14:28 (1,269 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Interesting!

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I'm actually interested to learn more about these new GEs myself.

Post# 1092189 , Reply# 4   10/6/2020 at 14:49 (1,269 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
Smurdle450...

The link is helpful. I agree. Decent agitation. I like the additional water level selection. It's a plus but having just two hasn't been an issue for. The ATC does concern me. I hope there is tap hot! That is my biggest concern. I cannot wait for reviews on this model. Thanks for sharing.

Post# 1092202 , Reply# 5   10/6/2020 at 16:00 (1,269 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I don't think tap-hot water is necessary for dealing with COVID.  Washing of hands doesn't call for it, although tepid or warm feels nicer and may be more effective than icy-cold.  Soap/detergent with rubbing of the hands is what destroys the lipid membrane of the virus.






Post# 1092205 , Reply# 6   10/6/2020 at 16:37 (1,269 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
DADoES

Maybe. But it definitely can make a difference getting certain types of grime out. Tap hot is a deal breaker for me. I want a way to disable it that doesn't require as much effort as I have invested in trying to get the Maytag's Normal Eco to work. Does anyone know if this a belt, direct drive, or??? I did not have time to look at parts list.

Post# 1092207 , Reply# 7   10/6/2020 at 17:13 (1,269 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Tap hot wash

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Just buy a SQ FL washer

I just ordered a SS SQFL for my outdoor laundry.

If you are serious about laundry it is very little to pay

John


Post# 1092229 , Reply# 8   10/6/2020 at 19:52 (1,269 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
John,

If I decide to go to a front load, I definitely will consider the SQ. I don't care if it has an internal heater as long as it does NOT have ATC and is well built. As long as the water comes to the bottom of the door, I'm OK with that. I adjusted my LG, so it did that. I could still open the door and put a sock in without water running on the floor. Is there a particular model I should look for? Does the SS stand for stainless steel?


Post# 1092278 , Reply# 9   10/7/2020 at 11:02 (1,268 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
maybe GE is

returning into the commercial laundry business? I hope they do.

Post# 1092315 , Reply# 10   10/7/2020 at 15:45 (1,268 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I think Kirk Rivas

should be considering ordering this washer. I'd like to hear what this machine sounds like.

Post# 1092327 , Reply# 11   10/7/2020 at 18:30 (1,268 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

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Is Kirk on AW.org? Judging by his company logo he might be uncomfortable around a bunch of queens. LOL


Post# 1092328 , Reply# 12   10/7/2020 at 18:51 (1,268 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I think Lorain Furniture

it too!

Post# 1092499 , Reply# 13   10/8/2020 at 23:32 (1,266 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
Soap and Covid

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Personally I think all this emphasis on washing hands is fine in general. However it's been shown than the virus is mostly spread through the air, in aerosols from breath/sneezes/coughs. So wearing face masks that cover mouth and nose is far more critical than just hand washing. Yes, hand washing is good for many reasons, but limiting the spread of Covid-19 isn't going to happen just by washing hands.

The reason for all this is the virus has a limited lifetime on hands and surfaces. A matter of hours. But when and infected someone speaks, yells, coughs, or sneezes, the aerosols produced are more likely to contain infectious viruses and to infect others who breathe them in.

Hand washing is probably more important to prevent the spread of infectious bacteria. Not respiratory viruses like Covid-19.


Post# 1092506 , Reply# 14   10/9/2020 at 00:14 (1,266 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Gotta love their advertising. "Commercial Grade Components"....shows a control knob. Too embarrassed to reveal those inner workings, GE?

Post# 1092565 , Reply# 15   10/9/2020 at 10:01 (1,266 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

I'm also interested in learning more about this machine. It looks like it would be a good machine.

Barry


Post# 1092572 , Reply# 16   10/9/2020 at 11:03 (1,266 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

I know it's been a trend for years and not limited to washers, but I really, really hate undescriptive descriptors. What exactly do "Bulky Items" and "Deep Clean" mean? How are those cycles physically different from regular?

As for temps, thanks to everchanging ATC "Tap Cold" is the only label that actually says anything. Since we're stuck with ATC, how about some actual information like...... oh, I don't know...... maybe ... ... DEGREES!!! Seriously, what's wrong with 30, 60, and 90? Ok, fine . change it to Fahrenheit.



Post# 1092575 , Reply# 17   10/9/2020 at 12:48 (1,266 days old) by Washingpowder (NYC)        

@Warmsecondrinse,

I couldn't agree more with both points. I can't stand the fact we got rid of actually usable cycles, like Wool and Hand Wash, in lieu of the nonsense they push on us now.
The temperature issue has always bothered me, especially considering that many manufacturers won't even list target temperatures in the manual, let alone the fact that Warm on Whites is hotter than, e.g. Hot on Colors etc.

However, there was an article recently that even European washers, which list temps in actual degrees, may not reach targets in order to conserve energy. IMO that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. If I choose 60C, I want 60C, not a longer 40C.


Post# 1092580 , Reply# 18   10/9/2020 at 13:12 (1,266 days old) by smurdle450 (California)        
Euro washers not reaching temp

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I can attest to this, I have a fair few contacts with European washer community members, and one has a Samsung that achieved 63 on a 90 cycle, and a Hoover that achieved 58, also on a 90 cycle.

That said, one collector had a modern Bosch that reached 85 on a 90, another had a Miele w1 that did similar, and another has an LG v9 that had a 95 cycle, and hit the full 95.


Post# 1092595 , Reply# 19   10/9/2020 at 14:37 (1,266 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

That reminds me of a funny incident.

A few months ago there was a problem with the hot water in my building that caused a building wide temp drop. I'm now on my 3rd apartment in this building and I never noticed any hot water temp change over the past 5 years.. The problem was fixed. Again, I personally didn't notice. A woman in my building complained at a recent meeting that the washers were running HOTTER than they used to and as a result some of her delicates were ruined.

What's funny is that I have items made of nylon, elastane, polyamide, etc. I also have 100% wool items. Since Covid hit I have washed all these items in hot and have dried on the highest heat setting. I've yet to have a single item get damaged in any way.

It makes me want to run around and check the temps of all 60 washer and all 60 dryers in the building.



Post# 1092644 , Reply# 20   10/9/2020 at 23:03 (1,265 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I wonder

what the agitation would be like on these washers?

Post# 1092997 , Reply# 21   10/12/2020 at 20:28 (1,262 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Is this front serviceable?

What is the agitation like on this machine? Can I use fabric softener? How well will it wash?

Post# 1092998 , Reply# 22   10/12/2020 at 20:33 (1,262 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Also,

what is the suspension system like?

Post# 1093076 , Reply# 23   10/13/2020 at 15:49 (1,262 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The suspension is just like all other HE top load washers made today with the hanging type of suspension.

Post# 1093202 , Reply# 24   10/14/2020 at 21:05 (1,260 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
This GE also claims

to have a steel drive transmission. Is this true? Or are they lying? Will the agitation be weak or strong?

Post# 1097568 , Reply# 25   11/18/2020 at 22:35 (1,225 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I believe

GE has a video of their laundry pair describing their new laundry pair on youtube. I'd love to hear what it sounds like in action.

Post# 1097705 , Reply# 26   11/20/2020 at 10:11 (1,224 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
'Commercial' Washers

warmsecondrinse, I agree with wanting to know exactly what the temperatures are. I would find it far more useful to have settings as 20, 30, 40, tap hot, 65, etc.
Smurdle, there was a video by Hooverlux on his LG that was set to 60ºC and the machine barely reached over 40ºC. Not acceptable.
GELaundryLover, I highly doubt it has a transmission. Nothing seems to have real parts any more.
This machine may not be a bad alternative to some of the HE TL machines, but I probably would take the LG Agitator over this.


Post# 1097706 , Reply# 27   11/20/2020 at 10:13 (1,224 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Posted too soon

I actually just looked into it, and this machine does in fact have what they consider to be a 'steel drive transmission'.

Post# 1097890 , Reply# 28   11/21/2020 at 21:29 (1,222 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
They also have

a 1/2 horsepower motor in it. What did the steel drive transmission look like? What would it sound like when agitating?

Post# 1097894 , Reply# 29   11/21/2020 at 21:38 (1,222 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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I like the new GE Ultravent FL washers.

One of the few offerings with reversible doors.

But my Neptune 7500 refuses to die.


Post# 1098101 , Reply# 30   11/23/2020 at 13:31 (1,221 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
my username

speaks for itself. I too am highly interested in learning more about this washer. I'm interested in the agitation action of this machine, especially on big loads.

Post# 1110880 , Reply# 31   3/10/2021 at 19:23 (1,113 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Sorry to revive this thread...

Have there any updates on this washer? I'd love to see and hear how the wash action behaves.

Post# 1110882 , Reply# 32   3/10/2021 at 19:24 (1,113 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I wonder

how it will handle extra heavy and dirty loads?

Post# 1110918 , Reply# 33   3/11/2021 at 06:51 (1,113 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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We picked this machine up on the scrap heap last week , while not exactly the same machine at the start of this thread it is 90%+ the same junk.

 

When I hooked it up it actually did a few loads and we wondered why someone got rid of it, then the fun began.

 

We put a very small load of wet rags in the machine and it went into its stupid sensing routine the machine proceeded to take 20 minutes ti fill to the brim and actually overflow a little [ according to the service Manuel you should not wash wet clothing in these washers ]

 

There is something very wrong with it however, the controls flash on and off, it keeps changing cycles from what you set it on and it just blacks out and refuses to work much of the time. reading the Manuel suggests a bad lid lock or main control board.

 

There is an unbelievable amount of service pointers on these washers already, it also sounds cheap like it is straining when ever the main motor starts to turn.

 

The day of top loading washers is simply over, I have not seen a single one that is satisfying to use or does what you want. in the last 5+ years. 

 

We are continuing to sell  lot of SQ TC5 series washers and people seem very happy with them, The MT MVB575 will also do a good job but you will be lucky to get ten years of heavy use out of one.

 

John L.


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Post# 1110933 , Reply# 34   3/11/2021 at 10:40 (1,113 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE commercial 525 wash behavior...

What is the wash behavior of these GE commercial machines? Will it be similar to the commercial Maytags or the rest of the GE line?

Post# 1110940 , Reply# 35   3/11/2021 at 11:24 (1,113 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
found a video on youtube

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found this video on youtube





compared with a speed queen






Post# 1112114 , Reply# 36   3/20/2021 at 09:35 (1,104 days old) by Chris44471 (Struthers)        
New GE Commercial Washer

I have a gtw460asj6ww It has the deep fill with the option for HE. It has the dual action agitator. This machine will fill to the top of the tub with the deep fill button activated. I have had no problems with the machine itself or the way it washes. This new commercial model looks to be a heavier duty version of the gtw460/465. Based on my experience with the gtw460, I would absolutely buy this washer with the heavier duty components.

Post# 1115373 , Reply# 37   4/22/2021 at 23:18 (1,070 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Any word

on what the wash action will be like? I'm anxious to know how it will behave during agitation.

Post# 1115379 , Reply# 38   4/23/2021 at 00:41 (1,070 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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GE just put the “Commercial” name on this washer in the hopes that some gullible consumer/customer buys the machine then throws it out just to buy another one and it really does seem that GE is trying to do whatever they can to force people to buy their crappy machines over and over again. My younger sister who lives in Arizona has one of those newer GE washers (it’s actually her boyfriend’s parent’s machine) and isn’t exactly thrilled with it and says it either doesn’t use enough water or fills up to the brim with water which is a huge waste of water. It seems like we are going backwards with the water level control with only having 2 water levels and not a small, medium, large or infinite water level.

Post# 1115382 , Reply# 39   4/23/2021 at 04:38 (1,070 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I hate

how manufacturers don't show their wash action of these new washers so we can see how it works! This is so stupid!

Post# 1115409 , Reply# 40   4/23/2021 at 15:54 (1,070 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I'm pretty sure it would have the same wash action as their other current top load models like this GTW465ASNWW for example. I friend of mine picked one of these up recently and they seem to like it so far.






Post# 1115413 , Reply# 41   4/23/2021 at 18:27 (1,070 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Just 17 Shirts and an hour and 20 Minutes

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That is not even 1/2 a load for this crappy washer and only 1/4 load for my SQ FL machine, yet it still uses more than twice the water and takes at least 20 minutes longer,

 

No thanks never in my house,

 

we have the same machine in the shop that we found on the scrap heap at just 2 YO,

 

Had a bad lid lock, but machines like this take all the fun out of doing laundry,

 

Imagine having to grow up with a washer like this.

 

John L.


Post# 1115419 , Reply# 42   4/23/2021 at 18:58 (1,070 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
What GE needs to do?

GE needs to do videos on how the gtw525 washes and its comparison to their competitors and other offerings. They must think we're stupid.

Post# 1115420 , Reply# 43   4/23/2021 at 19:09 (1,070 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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John, that appliance store in Austin runs newer machines as test examples so usually smaller loads with too much water to show the water action and that it can do a deep fill.  He sometimes runs overloads to check how that is handled.  He usually purposely loads impeller machines by piling the stuff in on the premise that a typical user will do it that way instead of placing the items distributed around the basket.  He occasionally runs tests on older "haulaway" machines for comparison to the newer offerings.


Post# 1115425 , Reply# 44   4/23/2021 at 21:18 (1,069 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I am so grateful

for Kirk Rivas. I've worked with him before. I wish more appliance stores would test new washing machines to get a full cycle video of what goes on. I'm grateful that he also does real-life tough loads, such as the dirty jeans test.

Post# 1115435 , Reply# 45   4/24/2021 at 01:11 (1,069 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Modern machines like that GE definitely make laundry more of a chore compared to the Filter Flo machines they made decades ago since there’s no real flexibility and what options you do have a very limited since everything is all programmed in. Sure, the older mechanical timer machines can be limited in operations and flexibility but if you have something like a a Kenmore 80 series from the 90’s or a Maytag A806 you have a good amount of flexibility since you can choose the wash and spin speed combinations along with the wash and rinse temperatures and such flexibility isn’t really possible at least on most mainstream machines these days sold at Lowe’s and Home Depot or any other big box retailer.

Post# 1115438 , Reply# 46   4/24/2021 at 01:55 (1,069 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
GE Washer Test

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Hi Glenn, I would never put a video on line showing such wasteful use of water, yes it is interesting to washer guys to try just so we know not to do it, Water Shortages and climate change are  real by doing a video like that more people are going to follow it, thank goodness GE makes it hard to select.

 

And no hot water in his shop it doesn't sound like they are very serious about cleaning things even for the business.

 

And 9 minutes to fill for wash, standard capacity WP-KMs would fill all the way up in just under 2 minutes.

 

As flawed as CRs is I would still take their testing over this.

 

John 



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