Thread Number: 85059  /  Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
1966 40" GE P7 Range Parts assistance please!
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Post# 1095530   11/2/2020 at 09:08 (1,264 days old) by Mattsdrag95 (New Hampshire)        

Hi Folks,
Have a beautiful condition 40" range that the right (large) side Bake and Broil elements stopped working on recently (smaller left side still functions perfectly, along with all cook tops). Model J486.
I replaced the right bake element and still nothing. I removed the back panels and found that while power is going to the main switch, that no power leaves the switch/dial when attempting to turn on bake/broil functions.
Upon looking at the wiring schematic I found the thermostat/relay (or responder as I have come to find called online) appears to show signs of damage (see photos below). Part # WB21x162. There are two other "responders" in this oven (one for the sensi-temp cooktop, and one for the smaller left oven).
I intend to do some further investigation to make sure the temp sensors are not causing a problem, but looking at the main responder it does appear to be damaged so I am suspect of it.

Does anyone know where I might be able to locate a replacement WB21x162 responder/temp switch?
Thank you in advance!

PS, please enjoy the attached photos of the range, as well as the near perfect original wiring schematic that I was fortunate to find inside the back panel!
-Matt


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Post# 1095533 , Reply# 1   11/2/2020 at 09:45 (1,264 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
No Heat From 2nd Gen GE P-7 Oven

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Check the oven sensor, it should read 17.5 Ohms resistance, if you connect the wires together it should make the oven heat if it is bad. [ Do Not leave it bypassed, oven will never stop heating and eventually destroy the oven ]

 

There is no responder for the small oven.

 

The damaged-burned heat shield on the back of the responder does not hurt anything or indicate a problem.

 

John L.


Post# 1095534 , Reply# 2   11/2/2020 at 10:03 (1,264 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        
broken wire

It looks like the third wire from left is broken


Post# 1096631 , Reply# 3   11/10/2020 at 07:52 (1,256 days old) by Mattsdrag95 (New Hampshire)        

Steve is correct, the 3rd wire is indeed broken. I have not had the opportunity to check the oven temp sensor resistance, but I am fairly certain the wire isn't supposed to be broken on the responder.

I have stumbled upon 1 or 2 used responders online but am a tad reluctant to purchase because the sites are obscure.

Does anyone happen to have a better resource where I may be able to find a new or used responder?

Thank you again in advance!
-Matt


Post# 1111456 , Reply# 4   3/15/2021 at 07:53 (1,131 days old) by Mattsdrag95 (New Hampshire)        

Well, I took a gamble trying to purchase a responder from one of the sites I found...and it was indeed a fake site. No luck on a responder.

I then stumbled upon this JR1402 oven locally. My google skills must have been off that day because I could have sworn I found that it used the same responder that I was looking for, but upon purchase and opening it up they are in fact different.

So for now, the search for the responder continues. Really hoping I can find something soon otherwise I may have to look into replacing the oven. What a shame.

If any of you think you might need any parts (or the whole thing) from this JR1402 just let me know.
Thanks,
-Matt


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Post# 1111469 , Reply# 5   3/15/2021 at 09:45 (1,131 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Early GE P-7 Self-Cleaning Oven

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Hi Matt, there is a new wb21X 162 responder on Ebay now.

 

The nice wall oven you bought is the next generation [ solid-state ] oven control system and you are correct nothing is interchangeable with your ovens controls.

 

John L.


Post# 1111471 , Reply# 6   3/15/2021 at 09:50 (1,131 days old) by Mattsdrag95 (New Hampshire)        

Thanks a bunch John, I just purchased the responder on ebay.

Post# 1113771 , Reply# 7   4/5/2021 at 07:57 (1,110 days old) by Mattsdrag95 (New Hampshire)        

Responder arrived and I was able to spend 20minutes installing it over the weekend. I'm happy to report that solved the problem, and the beautiful vintage oven is back in business!
Thanks again.
-Matt


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