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a whole lotta agitation goin' on!
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Post# 1098680   11/29/2020 at 15:04 (1,237 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Noticed that along with the agitator that the basket in my washer moves to--was this always happening or is there something not normal?



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Post# 1098683 , Reply# 1   11/29/2020 at 15:25 (1,237 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Nope, the spin brake should hold it stationary.


Post# 1098693 , Reply# 2   11/29/2020 at 16:53 (1,237 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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That’s what I thought—it used to be that only the agitator moves, but now the basket is also moving...



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Post# 1098696 , Reply# 3   11/29/2020 at 17:10 (1,237 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Something apparently is broken, perhaps related to the situation you reported a few days ago.

Set it to spin and trip the lid switch by hand ... does it spin OK?

Let the lid switch go to stop it, does it brake to a stop properly ... or coast down leisurely?


Post# 1098708 , Reply# 4   11/29/2020 at 17:59 (1,237 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
What brand is this machine?

Is it belt or direct drive? What's going on with the brake or transmission?

Post# 1098711 , Reply# 5   11/29/2020 at 18:14 (1,237 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Direct drive, Kenmore. The Kenmores had the side opening lid and have a different agitator from the Whirlpool direct drive washers.

Post# 1098715 , Reply# 6   11/29/2020 at 18:28 (1,237 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Well get this:

Now with this load, only the agitator is moving and this time, the basket is actually sitting still...

(yes, a direct-drive Kenmore is what I use)



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Post# 1098733 , Reply# 7   11/29/2020 at 20:02 (1,237 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Dave, you need to add more water. That DD is beating those clothes to death.

Post# 1098734 , Reply# 8   11/29/2020 at 20:19 (1,237 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
agreed- more water

If that's all the water you are using and that machine is agitating at high speed it's beating the heck out of those clothes. Raise the water level to either it's next setting (if preset levels) or adjust higher.

Post# 1098738 , Reply# 9   11/29/2020 at 20:44 (1,237 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
More Water?!

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But in another thread I was told I was using too much water and to use less--it would prevent unbalanced loads and of course reduce my water bills...

Also I do all my wash at low speed agitation and high speed spin except for work clothes--opposite, I thrash everything around at high speed and use a slow spin...



-- Dave


Post# 1098742 , Reply# 10   11/29/2020 at 21:17 (1,237 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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As long as you're not underloading the machine, full loads with the highest spin speed is the most efficient way to use a top loading washer. Larger loads are generally more balanced during the spin cycle.

Post# 1098754 , Reply# 11   11/29/2020 at 22:15 (1,237 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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That's plenty water for the small loads he runs per the previous examples and discussion about it.  As I recall he was previously using too much water for the load sizes *and* forcing a spin-drain by opening/closing the lid which sometimes caused the items to float/congregate into a wad and promote off-balance.

Video(s) would clarify the basket rotation situation.


Post# 1098766 , Reply# 12   11/29/2020 at 23:11 (1,237 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Here is the previous-ly discussed thread on one-sided loads, not to mention coaching a-plenty on water level adjustment for most-efficient usage...

As for a video, I can see if my phone or iPad are compatible with aw.org's syste, as I had attempted vid' since the past, but never got to work here, try again...



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Post# 1098768 , Reply# 13   11/29/2020 at 23:31 (1,237 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Videos can't be uploaded directly into posts.  They must be placed at some other online sharing service.  Most common is YouTube.


Post# 1098792 , Reply# 14   11/30/2020 at 09:33 (1,237 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i agree 100% with the use of more water

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i would agree with everyone in using more water and what kind of detergent do you use powder liquid pods and the next time you wash you can open up the front of your washer to check at the same time if certain parts needs to be replace and it will also aloow you to check for potential or possible leaks

Post# 1098804 , Reply# 15   11/30/2020 at 11:51 (1,236 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Next time,

I'd try fast agitation and fast spin for heavy-duty everyday items like jeans and towels.

Post# 1098812 , Reply# 16   11/30/2020 at 12:56 (1,236 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Slow agitation for a longer time gives better results (particularly with enzyme detergents) and less fabric wear than fast agitation for a shorter wash time.

Fast agitation is rarely needed for small loads in a direct-drive.

Whirlpool figured that out and nicely programmed the Catalyst to automatically adjust agitation speed per the selected water level.
- Heavy Duty and Whitest Whites run only Medium/(Slow) agitation on the two lowest water levels (Med/Small & Small).
- Normal runs Medium/(Slow) on Medium level, Low/(Ex-Slow) on Small and Med/Small levels.

Catalyst 3-speed agitation labeling
    High = high motor speed
    Med = low motor speed
    Low = ex-low motor speed


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Post# 1098899 , Reply# 17   12/1/2020 at 08:25 (1,236 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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in this load here, a little more water would not hurt, but you dont have to go excessive with it...3 or 4 inches more would be fine...

and if the speed selection is Slow Wash/Fast Spin.....all is fine....

there are days/times the brake does not engage, or slips some during agitation....if it happens on occasion, no big deal, but if it starts to happen more, then it may be time for a rebuild of the brake package...

if it comes to that, might as well swap out for a new Neutral Drain kit, and a new motor coupler, inspect your pump at that point.....from there on, your good to go for many more years of washing...


Post# 1100048 , Reply# 18   12/10/2020 at 02:07 (1,227 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Here's what all that made me fill her to the max give or take a t shirt or two...

I hope the threads didn't suffer any wear, and as my mother had been on my back over, besides the clothes not getting clean was it not wearing out the machine...



-- Dave


Post# 1100113 , Reply# 19   12/10/2020 at 17:04 (1,226 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Picture? What picture?

Here, don't know how it didn't show up:



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Post# 1100114 , Reply# 20   12/10/2020 at 17:24 (1,226 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Yes, that looks like a large load, but my ex-large loads make a pile bigger than that out of my Maytag dryer. They all circulate in the wash and all dry fine.

Post# 1104122 , Reply# 21   1/11/2021 at 09:58 (1,195 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Yes, SHE washed all this--...,

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...--and LIVED!!!!



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Post# 1104128 , Reply# 22   1/11/2021 at 11:46 (1,194 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)        

That is not to much !!

Post# 1104186 , Reply# 23   1/11/2021 at 18:56 (1,194 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        

My 24" front loader handles that size load without violating the loading protocol.
just sayin'


Post# 1104370 , Reply# 24   1/13/2021 at 01:54 (1,193 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

That load is tiny.

Even the Silk Lux can handle that very easily.

Actually, even the PuriFI (the new compact model that is reaching the market in a few weeks) can handle that very easily.



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