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White powdery substance - top rim of TC5000WN
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Post# 1102158   12/27/2020 at 10:09 (1,208 days old) by MikeC (Elizabeth)        

A couple of weeks ago I started using my new TC5000WN. I noticed that the top 1 1/2 inches of the drum was a more dull shade than the rest of the basket, but I put that down to the fact that the wash and rinse water don't reach that high. However when rubbing my finger along that area I found it somewhat covered with a white powdery substance. Anyone have this experience or know what this could be?
Also, when researching the machine and calling about maintenance (so many machines now-a-days call for a cleaning cycle with a special tablet) I was told by the rep that the SQ didn't require any special care and to make sure not to use more than 1 tbsp of detergent. I use Tide liquid and have always used less than the recommended amount since our clothes are rarely visibly dirty. 1 tbsp sounded like a pretty small amount but that is what I have been using. Can people chime in on how much detergent they use and if they use a "cleaning cycle" for this machine?
Thanks and Happy New Year!





Post# 1102166 , Reply# 1   12/27/2020 at 10:35 (1,208 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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TC5 is a deep-fill machine, not HE-low water. 1 tablespoon of detergent is not enough.

The residue may be mineral deposits from the water and/or accumulating soil-scum ... which goes along with insufficient detergent to sequester the mineral content of the water and flush away the soil.


Post# 1102178 , Reply# 2   12/27/2020 at 11:04 (1,208 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Residue On Washer Tub

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Yes Glenn Said it well in reply #1, and I will say it again, Use the full recommended amount of detergent listed on the detergent package, adjust slightly less if your water is under 3 gains hardness, use more than package instructions if water is over 7 gains hardness.

 

You basically cannot use too much detergent in an automatic washer [ within reason ] you can easily double or even triple the amount recommended with out problems.

 

John L.


Post# 1102180 , Reply# 3   12/27/2020 at 11:32 (1,208 days old) by oldschool88 (NJ)        
Assembly residue?

I noticed yours is new...I've read elsewhere about assembly residue left on the stainless steel tub, similar to dry toothpaste and possibly polishing compound used to prep the surface metal. Should be easily removeable with Windex or similar and a rag if this is the case.

Post# 1102184 , Reply# 4   12/27/2020 at 12:09 (1,208 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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On the tub of my step-daughter and SIL's SQ, the assembly residue was a dark greasy substance.  Maybe SQ has changed what they use since that machine was purchased several years ago.


Post# 1102186 , Reply# 5   12/27/2020 at 12:16 (1,208 days old) by MikeC (Elizabeth)        

Thank you for the replies.
I am trying to use the minimum amount of detergent necessary to clean my clothes (without harming my machine in some way) because I needed to have a drain hose extension kit installed, and the gooseneck that comes with the kit doesn't fit into the standpipe adapter which I technically should be using since my standpipe is only 2 inches in diameter. I want to avoid the problem that some have where suds come out of/overflow the standpipe during the final drain and spin, a situation that the the adapter is supposed to prevent.


Post# 1102195 , Reply# 6   12/27/2020 at 12:49 (1,208 days old) by MikeC (Elizabeth)        
washer maintenance

Also, does anyone periodically do a maintenance cycle on their SQ top loaders using washing machine cleaning tablets (or using another process)?



Post# 1102201 , Reply# 7   12/27/2020 at 14:03 (1,208 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
No Washer Should EVER need Cleaning

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TL or FL if it is used properly.

 

If every time you use your machine it gets a little dirtier the clothing is NOT getting clean.

 

If you are getting a hard water mineral build-up it can destroy the water pump and main water seal, If the main seal goes it can cost close to $500 to repair.

 

Using either too little or cheap ineffective detergents is one of the biggest preventable causes of washer repairs and it can eventually destroy a machine, Try running your cars engine on too little oil, detergent cleans and lubricates your machine.

 

Your SQ TLer will work fine with a 1 1/2" or 2" standpipe, if you have problems with suds backing out around the drain hose tape or seal the hose in place.

 

The white stuff is not from the factory.

 

We are a SQ dealer and servicer, we have sold over 1000 of these TL SQs, and serviced several hundred as we are the main Factory service for DC and DCs Maryland suburbs.

 

John L.


Post# 1102205 , Reply# 8   12/27/2020 at 14:29 (1,208 days old) by MikeC (Elizabeth)        
drain hose / hard water

Thank you, John. Well the drain hose is tied to the standpipe to keep it inside but of course there is a gap around the hose so suds would not be prevented from coming out. I don't know what you mean by "seal" as I had understood that the standpipe needs "access" to air.
Also, would you advise using a water softener like Borax over using more than the recommended amount of detergent when the water is hard?


Post# 1102211 , Reply# 9   12/27/2020 at 15:23 (1,208 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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The stand-pipe technically needs have an air-vent, it can be as tiny as a sizzle stick the vent is to prevent a siphon from starting.

 

How hard is your water ?

 

Borax is OK to use but is not very effective at softening water.

 

You can buy phosphates on line which really help, but it is probably better for the environment and cheaper to just use enough good detergent, or consider a whole house water softener system if that is an option for you.

 

John L.


Post# 1102217 , Reply# 10   12/27/2020 at 15:55 (1,208 days old) by MikeC (Elizabeth)        
drain hose / hard water

Thanks for clarifying how the standpipe works. Is there something in particular you would recommend to seal the hose in the standpipe?
I don't know exactly how hard my water is. A few years ago when my daughter had a betta fish, she tested the aquarium water occasionally for hardness and her notes said it was always 8. I don't know how that compared to the tap water at the time. I hope to call the water company tomorrow to see if they can give me some information.


Post# 1102273 , Reply# 11   12/28/2020 at 05:46 (1,207 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Standpipe Seal.

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This should do the trick.

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Post# 1102341 , Reply# 12   12/28/2020 at 21:00 (1,207 days old) by MikeC (Elizabeth)        
Standpipe Seal

Thanks!


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