Thread Number: 85809
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
Looking for help with this KitchenAid KDS 15 |
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Post# 1103546 , Reply# 2   1/7/2021 at 12:14 (1,176 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)   |   | |
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Is the sink to the right of the dishwasher? That could be the drain connection, disconnected for some reason. See if there's a hose connection somewhere for the drain. |
Post# 1103796 , Reply# 3   1/9/2021 at 08:57 (1,174 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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Thanks for the responses, very helpful. I need to take the Action Indicator off to remove the bottom panel. I'm pulling but it doesn't come off very easlily. Sure don't want to break it. Suggestions? |
Post# 1104015 , Reply# 5   1/10/2021 at 16:02 (1,173 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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Post# 1104018 , Reply# 6   1/10/2021 at 16:18 (1,173 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)   |   | |
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This is what the knob assembly looks like. I'd run a putty knife carefully around where the outer chrome rim meets the panel. |
Post# 1104064 , Reply# 8   1/10/2021 at 21:51 (1,173 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Nicely done! The disposer should definitely have a connection for the drain hose. Just be aware that if the disposer has never had a dishwasher hooked up to it before, there is likely a plug that needs to be knocked out of the disposer's hose connector fitting so that water from the hose won't be blocked from flowing into it.
If you have an air gap (a metal cylinder atop the sink), that is where your drain hose should be connected. If you don't, then you should route the hose so it goes up to the top of the sink cabinet to form a hook (an air gap alternative) before routing the remaining portion back down to the disposer.
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Post# 1104276 , Reply# 9   1/12/2021 at 11:33 (1,171 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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Any suggestions on cleaning the top portion of the unit? Fine steel wool? I tried magic eraser, it worked to some degree. Bartenders Friend worked very well on the stainless.
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Post# 1104297 , Reply# 10   1/12/2021 at 13:47 (1,171 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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You might try some automotive chrome polish, but only on areas that are stainless or chrome. It looks like the textured surface is painted, and chrome polish could remove that paint. If you can get the unpainted trim areas decent looking, it might be best to mask off everything but the textured area and repaint.
Another alternative is to keep an eye out on craigslist or other on line classifieds for a donor machine with a better panel on it. |
Post# 1105003 , Reply# 12   1/18/2021 at 19:31 (1,165 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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Look up Corbin pliers (?) or something to that effect. There is a specific pliers for those clay that make it a breeze |
Post# 1105746 , Reply# 15   1/24/2021 at 17:42 (1,159 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Many here use Cascade Fryer Boil-Out, which still contains phosphates. It can be found at industrial/institutional supply retailers as well as on line. Google it for more info.
I've provided a link to an old discussion about it.
Now, if you haven't already read up on it, loading your dishwasher properly will ensure great results. Since there is no dedicated wash arm for the upper rack, you need to be careful about how you load large pots, etc. in the bottom rack so they don't prevent the spray action from reaching portions of the top rack. CLICK HERE TO GO TO RP2813's LINK |
Post# 1107105 , Reply# 17   2/7/2021 at 09:15 (1,145 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1107108 , Reply# 18   2/7/2021 at 10:10 (1,145 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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(See Image) also, of note, both times I had issues I was adding to the pre-wash area. The times I did not I only filled the regular wash area.
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Post# 1107118 , Reply# 19   2/7/2021 at 11:20 (1,145 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Reason I asked about detergent is pods can cause sudsing. Powders don't typically do that but is there excess sudsing if you look inside when the leaking occurs, or during the main wash period even if leaking doesn't occur then? Are you using rinse aid? Spilled rinse aid or leaking from the dispenser can cause it. |
Post# 1107127 , Reply# 20   2/7/2021 at 12:16 (1,145 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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And some was spilled and settled around the rim of the reservoir. |
Post# 1107141 , Reply# 21   2/7/2021 at 14:29 (1,145 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 1107142 , Reply# 22   2/7/2021 at 14:31 (1,145 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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Very good results. Also using aluminum foil and saltwater. |
Post# 1107282 , Reply# 24   2/8/2021 at 16:10 (1,144 days old) by Awooff (Peoria, Illinois)   |   | |
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Post# 1107288 , Reply# 25   2/8/2021 at 17:55 (1,144 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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We had a KDI-21 that developed this same problem, but it was intermittent. It was easy to tell when it was occurring because the machine operated almost silently when suds were present.
We had a hot tub at the time, and we had to keep a squeeze bottle of liquid de-foamer around for those times when guests wore bathing suits, which caused sudsing when the jets were in use. I ended up squirting a shot of that into the dishwasher when the problem presented itself and it knocked down the suds.
The machine had started misbehaving in this way not all that long before we sold the house, so I never attempted any repair. Access to the rinse aid dispenser would have been fairly easy, and I would think removing the front panel on your machine would provide similar accessibility.
KitchenAid experts here may be able to offer dispenser troubleshooting guidance, but you could also wait for the reservoir to empty itself and switch to hanging a Jet-Dry solid rinse aid from the top rack if a repair attempt hits any snags. Or, as stated above, if you have soft enough water, rinse aid may not even be necessary. |
Post# 1107592 , Reply# 27   2/11/2021 at 11:08 (1,141 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 1107593 , Reply# 28   2/11/2021 at 11:10 (1,141 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 1116595 , Reply# 30   5/7/2021 at 19:02 (1,056 days old) by jgiotto (Rochester)   |   | |
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This is intermittent, sometimes it closes on the main wash semi-circle, other times it refuses to shut and springs open. Thoughts? Kind of dead-in-the-water with the malfunction.
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Post# 1116602 , Reply# 31   5/7/2021 at 19:51 (1,056 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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This was a common problem with these as they aged, if you take the outer door panel off you can see what is happening when you try closing the cover.
Some times you can fix this problem by bending the pin that holds the dispenser together, but most times we would just replace the complete dispenser.
There are probably still a lot of good used dispensers for these KD-16 and 16 DWs out there, if you have trouble finding one we can sell you a good used one for $30 + shipping.
John L. |