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Thread Number: 86109
/ Tag: Vintage Dryers
'75 DE806 not shutting off after cool down |
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| Post# 1106713 2/4/2021 at 09:28 (1,175 days old) by marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
Hi Everyone,
Does anyone have experience with an DE806 not turning off after cool down? The heat shuts off at the DING!, but then it will just run indefinitely on air. Thanks! -Mark
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| Post# 1106715 , Reply# 1 2/4/2021 at 09:36 (1,175 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1106717 , Reply# 2 2/4/2021 at 09:40 (1,175 days old) by swestoyz  (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Potential sign that the push button switch is starting to go bad. Pull the top control panel cover and inspect for the linkage between the solenoid and the push button switch. The linkage looks like a paper clip bent to shape.
If the linkage is in place and the solenoid is activating and sliding the switch in attempts to shut the dryer off, then the overall switch assembly is starting to go bad. PN 3-2528/302528. Ben
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| Post# 1106766 , Reply# 3 2/4/2021 at 16:56 (1,175 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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| Post# 1106768 , Reply# 4 2/4/2021 at 17:05 (1,175 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
could be a grounding issue somewhere | ||
| Post# 1106846 , Reply# 5 2/5/2021 at 09:03 (1,174 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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| Post# 1106857 , Reply# 6 2/5/2021 at 10:10 (1,174 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Once the solenoid resets the timer selector switch and the bell chimes then the cool down thermostat is what shuts the dryer off. If the solenoid is not activating then there is probably an issue with the moisture sensor circuit, for example the drum baffle sensors, wiring from the baffles to the carbon brush, the carbon brush that rides on the slip ring, the electronic control.
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Post# 1106869 , Reply# 7 2/5/2021 at 10:51 (1,174 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1106870 , Reply# 8 2/5/2021 at 11:05 (1,174 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Control Switch 302528
I've sent out about a half dozen control switches to fellow members in the last year or so. While there is a potential for the cool down t-stat to have gone bad, the age of the push button switches and cycle count these have gone through in their life time leave the wafer slider to get weak.
All good suggestions stated above, but one thing I'd also try is to shut the dryer off by sliding the slider manually. If it shuts off with confident movement you can rule out the switch. If it requires some finesse the switch itself is the culprit. How long did it run and ding, previously, when it was trying to shut itself off? A few minutes? A few hours? Did it take opening the door to shut the dryer off? Ben | ||
| Post# 1106900 , Reply# 9 2/5/2021 at 14:39 (1,174 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Correction! I ran it again to see and the solenoid is disconnecting, pushing the paper clip out and turning off the heat, then it just keeps running and running. The moisture sensor and carbon rod seem ok. I get continuity from the sensor to the copper ring.
Trying just the air fluff cycle now to see what happens. Ben I know you rebuilt the timer on my ‘59! Still working perfectly!! | ||
| Post# 1106918 , Reply# 10 2/5/2021 at 16:00 (1,174 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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| Post# 1106919 , Reply# 11 2/5/2021 at 16:02 (1,174 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1106927 , Reply# 12 2/5/2021 at 16:41 (1,174 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1106929 , Reply# 13 2/5/2021 at 16:45 (1,174 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1106932 , Reply# 14 2/5/2021 at 17:17 (1,174 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Time to check the cool down t-stat. It may be stuck closed, once they get below 125-130 degrees they should open. With the dryer cold, check for continuity across the t-stat (disconnect the leads first). If it's still closed you'll want to replace it.
Ben EDIT - Dan beat me to the punch. Nice to see such a collaborate effort!
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Post# 1106936 , Reply# 15 2/5/2021 at 17:53 (1,173 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Hey Bob, I had to do some digging to find the time values assigned to testing all options on the bar baffle version. Air Fluff has the same time value as Regular. Suspect when using the dryer Air Fluff would take this long for both testing and actual use, whereas Regular uses a different path through the electronic control that varies time depending upon the load (discharging the capacitor due to a wet load).
Ben
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Post# 1106937 , Reply# 16 2/5/2021 at 18:06 (1,173 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1107116 , Reply# 17 2/7/2021 at 10:55 (1,172 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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There is continuity! So this must be the problem. Thanks everyone!
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| Post# 1107123 , Reply# 18 2/7/2021 at 11:28 (1,172 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 1107851 , Reply# 19 2/13/2021 at 14:55 (1,166 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1107868 , Reply# 20 2/13/2021 at 16:12 (1,166 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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Post# 1107876 , Reply# 21 2/13/2021 at 17:40 (1,165 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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Post# 1107881 , Reply# 22 2/13/2021 at 18:05 (1,165 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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Because the DE806 is an electronic control machine that doesn't actually have a timer or timer motor. Instead it uses the charging and discharging of a capacitor, and some other components as electro-mechanical logic elements/switches, to regulate how long the machine should run and how things shut off in sequence. | ||
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Post# 1107882 , Reply# 23 2/13/2021 at 18:10 (1,165 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 1107898 , Reply# 24 2/13/2021 at 23:04 (1,165 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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Post# 1107899 , Reply# 25 2/14/2021 at 00:26 (1,165 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 606 and 806 control doesn't have minute markings, just settings for Regular, Perm Press, Air Fluff, and Damp Dry. They don't move from the selected function through the cycle to an Off position ... there is no Off position. There's a Highlander model and of course the 906 that have pushbuttons instead of a rotary knob. | ||
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Post# 1107910 , Reply# 26 2/14/2021 at 05:16 (1,165 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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I always thought the 806 had a standard timer and the fancier lighted panel.
The 906 dryer was rapid advance. They're fun to look at anyway. Fixing them ?
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Post# 1107912 , Reply# 27 2/14/2021 at 06:09 (1,165 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1107915 , Reply# 28 2/14/2021 at 06:30 (1,165 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1107973 , Reply# 30 2/14/2021 at 18:53 (1,164 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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Thanks for that Glenn.
I actually had a 806 dryer I picked up when I was collecting in 2002 with that panel and timer. But was so overwhelmed with all the appliances I never got to check out the timer. I had no idea it was entirely electronic. Now, how to fix the dryer at hand? Why won't it shut off and are timer parts still available for these dryers? | ||
| Post# 1108038 , Reply# 31 2/15/2021 at 09:03 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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| Post# 1108039 , Reply# 32 2/15/2021 at 09:04 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1108042 , Reply# 33 2/15/2021 at 09:27 (1,164 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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The capacitor is mounted on the electronic control assembly itself, vs. the 08-12 series being part of the harness connector. It would be difficult to test with it in circuit. Any chance you could take a few pictures of the control? I'd like to see the condition of the terminal connections.
Is the dryer dinging at all when attempting to dry a full load on either Regular or Perm Press, and not shutting off? Or has it stopped dinging completely? If you start the dryer can you manually shut the dryer off by moving the slider on the back of the switch towards the solenoid (use an insulated tool for this test)? The replacement cool down stat is acting normal if open when cold. Ben
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| Post# 1108043 , Reply# 34 2/15/2021 at 09:36 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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It runs the full cycle and dings, clothes are dry, but then it still goes into the endless cool down and never shuts off. Here are some pics of the control.
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Post# 1108044 , Reply# 35 2/15/2021 at 09:41 (1,164 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Looking A-OK | ||
| Post# 1108045 , Reply# 36 2/15/2021 at 09:49 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1108046 , Reply# 37 2/15/2021 at 09:52 (1,164 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Yep, it's the brown/dark colored wafer that the paper clip is attached to.
It shouldn't be crunchy. Did it shut the dryer off, or take several cycles (move slider to off, dryer doesn't turn off, press the control knob to on, repeat)? As I mentioned earlier, these switches are starting to become the Achilles heel of the electronic control HOH dryers. Ben | ||
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Post# 1108047 , Reply# 38 2/15/2021 at 09:53 (1,164 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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| Post# 1108048 , Reply# 39 2/15/2021 at 09:57 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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| Post# 1108050 , Reply# 40 2/15/2021 at 10:24 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1108051 , Reply# 41 2/15/2021 at 10:25 (1,164 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 1108055 , Reply# 42 2/15/2021 at 11:23 (1,164 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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| Post# 1108060 , Reply# 43 2/15/2021 at 12:21 (1,164 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1108061 , Reply# 44 2/15/2021 at 12:24 (1,164 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 1108108 , Reply# 45 2/15/2021 at 19:10 (1,163 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1108128 , Reply# 46 2/15/2021 at 20:19 (1,163 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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| Post# 1108152 , Reply# 47 2/15/2021 at 22:21 (1,163 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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| Post# 1110039 , Reply# 48 3/2/2021 at 21:44 (1,148 days old) by Marks (Tucker, GA) | ||
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Post# 1110051 , Reply# 49 3/3/2021 at 07:48 (1,148 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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