Thread Number: 86303
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
My new washer - A week full of disappointment! |
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Post# 1108726 , Reply# 3   2/19/2021 at 11:41 (1,155 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Sorry to hear you`re disappointed with your new Miele.
Many years ago when I took delivery of my Miele I`ve been disappointed too because I compared it to other washers I`ve had before. My crappy Indesit had rinse water levels half way up the door and a very accurate infinite thermostat which I liked. My pre-Electrolux AEG Lavamat rinsed better on cotton cycles and never missed a spin even though it was one of the first ones with out of balance control. A Siwamat washer-dryer had the best way of dispensing FS. Always on wet clothes, never right after the intermittent spin. Had an Electrolux based Lavamat for just a few months wich was best at distributing clothes quick and evenly before spinning. After a rough start and some service calls the Miele has finally grown on me. Have changed my laundry habits for instance I wash my 60° loads now on 75° since I found out that 60° on the Miele dial means only 55°, and since I`ve raised the front legs a little bit I haven`t had problems with undetected (ignored) sudslocks or spins not picking up to full speed as it was the case before. Today I wouldn`t want to trade it for any other washer on the market. My point is give it a chance. No washer on earth is perfect. Of course the cool down thing is unacceptable and has to be repaired or updated or whatever. Personally I wouldn`t miss the rinse only cycle of my old Miele because it`s just two high level rinses on delicate agitation without extraction between rinses. Not very useful for me, but that`s only me. What I do instead is to start a cycle of choice and then immediately skip the wash part by turning the dial to "end" which gives me the perfect extra rinses for any fabric. One thing I miss is that I can`t skip the rinse and do a last rinse with FS only. But there`s still the starch cycle as a substitute for that. I hope there`s still a possibility to skip the wash part on newer Mieles, otherwise I would be doomed if I had to pick a new washer. |
Post# 1108734 , Reply# 4   2/19/2021 at 12:37 (1,155 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Can't manualy advance through cycle steps anymore. |
Post# 1108810 , Reply# 5   2/19/2021 at 20:32 (1,155 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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For those of us who still use starch (such as for linens or dress shirts), loss of that cycle would be a disaster. One reason love my older Miele W1070 is because of that cycle. Happily both the AEG Lavamat and Electroloux AEG Toplader offer, so that's me for you.....
Also like rinse only coupled with spin for things that were laundered by hand. Machine rinsing removes last traces of detergent or soap hand rinsing might have missed, and tends to get things more evenly distributed for easier final spin to remove water. While sad, suppose Miele has no other choice nowadays but to go with flow and try to produce washers that meet ever increasing energy guidelines, what they think consumers want, and at price points that machines will sell. |
Post# 1108824 , Reply# 6   2/19/2021 at 21:39 (1,155 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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What does it take to add a rinse and spin cycle these days of electronic wizardry. It's not like there is any mechanics going on to do so.. Just a programming addition. Such as on my LG, there are 4 or 5 programs including a rinse and spin on the dial that you can add or subtract rinses, spin speeds, etc etc. However on the app there is around 14 more cycles.. So why wouldn't Miele just add a rinse only cycle on their app.
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Post# 1108830 , Reply# 7   2/19/2021 at 21:55 (1,155 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Very awkward indeed that there is no separate rinse cycle anymore. They could have easily organised this just like on my Siemens. A separate rinse cycle and the choice of the number of rinses. If you deselect the rinses you only get a spin. It's annoying that Miele didn't make that possible. They could make it available by an update, but not sure if they would ever do that.
For the rest, enjoy the new machine and hang in there. |
Post# 1108902 , Reply# 9   2/20/2021 at 17:21 (1,154 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1109140 , Reply# 11   2/22/2021 at 10:30 (1,152 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Miele's first response was just a link to how to fix the F10 error which isn't much help ("Is the tap open?")... Replied to that mail, so we'll see what the next response is. |
Post# 1109389 , Reply# 13   2/24/2021 at 09:30 (1,150 days old) by washerguy02 (Manchester )   |   | |
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Sorry for my negativity but the latest Miele W1s have unreliable electronics with their constant F20 error codes prematurely, glitchy programming. If I was paying a really high price (a grand) for a brand new washing machine I would hate it if the machine failed prematurely/way too early it is just sad and pathetic when that happens.
Also they are really fussy with balancing for a Miele which is bad as considering they are meant to be a top high quality brand they shouldn't care about balancing so the fussy balancing is a massive step downwards for Miele. The older versions did not care about balancing. There is a video of a Miele W1 randomly draining water like 6 minutes into the cycle for no reason and when you open the door to check the temperature it randomly pumps out for no reason. I do think the new Mieles perform well as stated above and are okay to good when working except the balancing obviously by watching videos of them. It's just however that they are not for me as I would rather have a reliable washer if I was paying a high price for a machine so instead of getting a Miele washer I would buy a Bosch or Siemens machine as they are far more reliable for the high prices you pay for them. Conclusion: I recommend Bosch or Siemens if you are paying for high price machines that are like a grand as reliability is important for a machine costing a grand. Rant over Janak |
Post# 1109407 , Reply# 15   2/24/2021 at 12:21 (1,150 days old) by washerguy02 (Manchester )   |   | |
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Post# 1109409 , Reply# 16   2/24/2021 at 13:05 (1,150 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Never said they were rubbish. Just that they are sealed tub units now as well (depending on model) and that I have seen machines no older than 5 years with broken spiders or bearings. |
Post# 1114799 , Reply# 22   4/16/2021 at 15:38 (1,099 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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This is my Rinse/Spin. I had the closed tap (not sure exactly what it said) once when the machine was new. Haven't had it since. The WiFi on mine is OK but takes so long to connect sometimes and other times it's pretty quick. I do most from the console and use the app more to monitor what's going on. Overall, I am happy with mine. Going on about a year now. It's the best cleaning machine I've ever had. I thought my Bosch Axxis+ was the best but I like this one even better.
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Post# 1126028 , Reply# 25   8/17/2021 at 16:17 (976 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)   |   | |
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Could the machine just heat to 20c without using powerwash, since it is a low temperature? |
Post# 1126049 , Reply# 26   8/17/2021 at 17:57 (976 days old) by Stephen (Palm Springs CA USA)   |   | |
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And on my WWH860, my PW only works on 20/Cold. |