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Any way to force a F&P GWL11 to fill with warm water and not cold/bypass eco active features?
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Post# 1109468   2/24/2021 at 21:32 (1,150 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)        

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It works fine and dandy but I want a 90F wash on warm temperature but I only get if I use the wash plate on the medium low or medium water levels. I want it on high if I use the agitator. It wants to save energy by using hot water for ecoactive to dissolve the detergent then fill with cold the rest of the way. I would like a full warm fill. Is there anyway to bypass this feature or do I have to use a Y connecter on the hot water and guess what 90F is?




Post# 1109478 , Reply# 1   2/24/2021 at 22:54 (1,150 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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1) Perm Press skips Eco Active and fills to an auto-sensed or manual level with ATC Warm/Cold or Warm (not Warm/Hot or Hot .... but see #2).

2) Program the tub clean cycle onto the Favorite button, then you can run a Warm/Hot, or Hot wash on it.  Keep in mind that Perm Press won't spin on Medium or High (you can re-spin the load on Normal if desired).  You can also cancel the cycle after agitation starts and reset to another cycle with the same fill level selected, it'll put in a few seconds of cold water then start agitating.

Press/hold Favorite until it beeps twice and flashes.
Select Perm Press.
Select Hot temperature.
Press Favorite to store the programming.
Programming Perm Press onto Favorite this way DOES allow Warm/Hot or Hot on it.

Select Favorite to run the cycle. It's intended for cleaning the tub but you can wash clothes on it.  Change the temp if desired (ad hoc per each run).  If you take it off Hot and change your mind before Starting, the safeguards for Perm Press won't allow raising it back to Hot or Warm/Hot ... press Favorite again to override back to the saved cycle to start over.

3) Fill the tub manually via Diagnostic Mode with full hot or mixed hot/cold to or slightly above whatever water level you want.  Exit Diagnostics.  Select whichever cycle you want, manually select the already filled level, and go.


Post# 1109497 , Reply# 2   2/25/2021 at 07:16 (1,150 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I have found a few machines, like my Cabrio...while yes it will dub down temps, even on hot, and for the most part has only been a 10 degree drop....

FIRST you have to start with hot water, like 140-160 degrees.....purging the line can't hurt...

removing the restrictor on the hot side helped too....

YMMV


Post# 1109500 , Reply# 3   2/25/2021 at 10:00 (1,149 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Martin, per my experience with F&P ...

GWL11 has 24v DC power on the valves.  ATC directly mixes the hot and cold flow to the target temperatures.  My IWL12, which is a Phase 6 model same as GWL11, targets 115°F for Warm, assuming the hot supply is at least 115°F.  Hot supply of 140°F, the water spraying in remains at 115°F, assuming the cold supply isn't also 115°F or otherwise too high to moderate the hot down.  GWL11 and IWL12 have different target temps programmed on the board.

Phase 7 (and higher?) apparently went away from digital control.  My AquaSmart runs in full hot (or cold for the two lower temps) until the ATC thermistor goes too high above (or below) the target, then switches to mixed hot+cold to cool (or raise) it for an average target in the tub.

All F&P models will throw a hot or cold supply fault code if unable to reach the target temperature (non-fatal, meaning filling continues with angry beeping).  It may take a few mins for the fault to trigger so Eco Active fill or even Low level may be reached without a fault occurring.

These are the target temps for my IWL12 and AquaSmart per diagnostics:
Controlled Cold = 16°C/61°F \ 18°C/64°F
Warm/Cold = 34°C/93°F \ 30°C/86°F
Warm = 46°C/115°F \ 50°C/122°F
Warm/Hot = 51°C/124°F \ 56°C/133°F
Hot = 69°C/156°F \ 62°C/144°F

IWL12 has a set-up menu option to adjust the target temps (all together, not individually) on a range of +6°C to -6°C in 2°C increments.  GWL11 does not provide that option (nor does AquaSmart).


Post# 1109501 , Reply# 4   2/25/2021 at 10:24 (1,149 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

The Allergy cycle should fill with selected temperature.



However it will always run the Eco-Active stage.

And all other cycles will always do the cold top-up-fill.



That is true for any machine using Eco-Active to this day and that is hard programmed in.


Maybe closing the cold valve would override that, but that might abort the cycle as well.
Surely will trigger some error code though.


Post# 1109505 , Reply# 5   2/25/2021 at 11:02 (1,149 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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GWL11 doesn't have an Allergy cycle.


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