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Post# 1110272   3/5/2021 at 07:49 (1,141 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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hello to all aw members i have a small questions on vaccum cleaners do you know if the electrolux brand for sled vacuum cleaner models is sold in canada and would also like to know more about the miele brand for sled vacuum cleaner? thank you very much for your answers




Post# 1110285 , Reply# 1   3/5/2021 at 12:37 (1,140 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Sled?

All north American Electrolux and Aerus vac's since the early 1960's have had wheels. The last one with gliders was the LXI of the late 50's. Miele hasn't made one since then either.
European E-Lux's and Miele went to plastic tanks first. Electrolux in Canada and the states about 1979-80 after thre Marquis was discontinued. Those were still sold under a generic brand last time I looked on Vacuums direct, or E-vacuum stores.
When AB Electrolux (Sweden) who owns Frigidaire decided in the 90's to market upscale major appliances as Electrolux, they divested from the north American concern, and the name changed to Aerus. The Guardian, and possibly the Classic (Pre-hepa filter Renaissance), is still made. I'm sure they sell in Canada if so.
Just search online. Hope that helped Pierre.


Post# 1110307 , Reply# 2   3/5/2021 at 18:05 (1,140 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you vercarator because my momand i have a sled eureka vaccum and a dyson but with a cat and carpet stairs they are not that good so my mom is thinking about buying a new one and central vaccum we have no longer works well

Post# 1110375 , Reply# 3   3/6/2021 at 10:06 (1,140 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Pierre,

your welcome, and what is wrong with your CV system? Often the motor brushes can be replaced, or the motor if the seal between the mounting and the tank is still good (not dry rotted). An Amitek Lamb 2 stage bypass 120 volt motor is not costly. My Hoover CV is from 1996, and still going. I replaced the hose about 10 years ago with one from Canavac. I like that it has no bag, just a polyester filter to brush clean when emptying the tank.
A new power unit can be bought for about $500.00 from Canavac (Canadian), Beam, etc. They are universal. The bypass 2 ir 3 stage moors are better. You can tell them apart by the metal exhaust horn they have vs. a plastic one. The least expensive motors are flow through, and don't last as long.
A new quality cansiter vac will set you back about $700.00 to $1,000.00. An Aerus even more. The refurbished generic Epic models I haven't priced lately, but they cost a lot less. They only have wooden beater bars. A Miele with a good powerbrush runs about $800.00 to $1,200. The top of the line $1,400.00 They are great, and super quiet, but bags and hepa filters costly.
Others avaialble are Riccar, and Simplicity.
I also have my moms Eureka Brandywine powerteam canister from 1980. Still going strong, but no hepa filtration of course. I use the powernozzle on the central vac often. The Vibra-groomer is still among the best ever made.


Post# 1110378 , Reply# 4   3/6/2021 at 10:53 (1,140 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i think its clog idk been replace around 1996 but not an expert and no power go to the brush and spit out the dust

Post# 1110398 , Reply# 5   3/6/2021 at 12:51 (1,139 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Out of curiosity

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What brand and/or model is your central vac?

Post# 1110519 , Reply# 6   3/7/2021 at 17:59 (1,138 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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central vaccum is eureka will post a pic when i take one

Post# 1110521 , Reply# 7   3/7/2021 at 18:28 (1,138 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
pics of central vaccum

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here are pics of the central vaccum plus i have to start it manuel the control on the handle no longer function, so the big question is should i suggest to my mom to consider replacing it if yes what would be the best brand for central vaccums there are no longer sears stores where i live i think it replace a beam central vaccum that was in place since 1983 was replace around 1996 or 1997 do not remeber the excat year

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Post# 1110552 , Reply# 8   3/7/2021 at 23:36 (1,138 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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If the power unit still turns on and it works fine, then I would first focus on fixing the hose and unclogging it if you're on a budget. Here's a video from a friend of mine who explains how to easily troubleshoot a central vacuum.





And here's another video explaining how to easily unclog your system.





If you're looking into upgrading just the kit by itself, here's what I would recommend. In my opinion the best overall kit would be the Stealth from MD Manufacturing. For better deep cleaning, I would go for the Wessel Werk EBK360 kit.

If you're looking into upgrading just the power unit by itself, I would highly recommend to look at the power units from MD Manufacturing. Or if you like to buy stuff that are made in Canada, then I would highly recommend to look into Cyclovac.

builtinvacuum.com/...

www.cyclovac.ca/...


Post# 1110566 , Reply# 9   3/8/2021 at 06:29 (1,138 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you never tough it might be the pipe that are clog will look at the video

Post# 1110582 , Reply# 10   3/8/2021 at 09:31 (1,138 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Pierre,

if it works after cleaning, etc. you can upgrade the hose to one with a 6 foot pigtail for a power brush that plugs into the nearest wall outles to it. Hoses are available with the 24 volt switch on the handle as well as for the power nozzle. Mine only has one for the nozzle. The unit starts upon connecting the hose to the inlet valve. The 24 volt combo switch allows powering off the main unit from other rooms.

Post# 1110599 , Reply# 11   3/8/2021 at 12:24 (1,137 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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We had a Nutone central vac for years that was garbage, I think they installed with the Nutone Food Center. The vacuum had two power heads one was like a huge ugly cinder block , I think it ran off of suction and the other was electric and that horrible imitation wood crap. They didn't work well the hose connections and power on sucked bad. My Parents bypassed all that and just put a switch next to the machine in the garage . Mom ditched that system and got a Drain Vac/ PureVac its a nice and powerful machine you can even vacuum up water and what not. You never have to empty it , the machine uses water and a drain. Kinda like a Rainbow Vac.

Post# 1110703 , Reply# 12   3/9/2021 at 13:16 (1,136 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I emptied mine yesterday

since winter began. The poyester filter has a hole in it from glass, or a sharp nail. It's working fine, but I'm not going to replace it. The unit is from 1996 and has paid for itself in bag savings. My luck if I do it will need motor brushes or a motor next. It's a 120 volt 10.5 amp 2 stage. 110 inches of water lift. I put a muffler on it, but I'd upgrade to a Beam Serenity series, or Canavac equivalent.

Post# 1111029 , Reply# 13   3/12/2021 at 01:11 (1,134 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

If a filter has a hole-leak in it-replace the filter.Your vacuums motor will thank you.Dust leakage is BAD for vacuum motors!It can clog the motors fans-throwing the fans off balance-killing the motor-and the dust can get into the bearings.

Post# 1111050 , Reply# 14   3/12/2021 at 07:36 (1,134 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I've always wanted a central vac system but this house just isn't big enough to justify it.  Kirby will have to do.


Post# 1111087 , Reply# 15   3/12/2021 at 14:21 (1,133 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Greg, Rex,

I'd replace the filter but I don't know how much longer the main motor seal is going to last. I paid $400 for it in 1996.
Greg, our place is under 1,500 sq. ft. We had a dog that I was very allergic to the dander, so thats why I got it. It's in the garage, and the only inlet valve is in adjoining wall. A 35' hose reaches every corner of the house both ceilings (with a wand) and floor. I can clean the basement stairs too. The smallest units are designed for condo's and motor homes.


Post# 1111567 , Reply# 16   3/15/2021 at 19:02 (1,130 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Mike

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I would also replace the filter. Otherwise you would have a greater chance of your motor to go bad. Out of curiosity, what model is your Hoover? I'm not entirely sure if there is actually a replacement filter for it anymore or not. At least there are non available from MD Manufacturing's website. I'd assume that you still could, for over 25 years they had been made by Cana-Vac. But definitely for sure you can get a new motor seal for it, they're very inexpensive to replace. However if you're ready into upgrading your Hoover, here's what I would recommend. If you really like your Hoover, then I would suggest to into Allegro. Cana-Vacs are good to but non of them have a built-in utility valve like Allegro. Some Beam units are ok but some not so much. But if you want the best overall bagless central vacuum unit for your home, then I would suggest to look into Vacuflo's true cyclonic units. They don't use a bag or a filter, you can see what's coming into the bin, and all of the dust would be blown outdoors. The only downfalls with them is like Cana-Vac, none of them have a built-in utility valve. They are required to be vented outdoors. And they're not cheap, but basically at the end of the day you get what you pay for.

Post# 1111780 , Reply# 17   3/17/2021 at 07:23 (1,129 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Thank's Alex!

I looked for one. I think one for an MD might work, or any with a clamp mount and sand bag weight. About $50. It's had that hole for a long time. It has a bit of bearing whine on the wind down now. I'm surprized it hasn't needed yet needed motor brushes too. It was made in Canton, Ohio. It's maroon color.
We have no pets now, and it's just us two, so I run it about once a week. We only have area carpets and wood floors, so I use a dust mop for quick tidying up.


Post# 1111832 , Reply# 18   3/17/2021 at 15:17 (1,128 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Hmm

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I'm actually now curious to see pictures of your unit if you don't mind sharing on here:) As far as I'm aware of, there were two units that Hoover made by themselves in the US. The 400 and the 550, they were both cyclonic models. Then the rest with it's inverted self-cleaning bag were made in Canada by Cana-Vac from my understanding. If your Hoover with it's inverted self-cleaning bag was also made in the US, this is definitely new to me:)

Post# 1111945 , Reply# 19   3/18/2021 at 15:56 (1,127 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
It's the 400 Alex

The 550 I think was a 3 stage. It is cyclonic.

Post# 1111946 , Reply# 20   3/18/2021 at 15:59 (1,127 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I think

Hoover alao had two teal colored units. maybe those were by Cnavac.

Post# 1111957 , Reply# 21   3/18/2021 at 18:06 (1,127 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
Ah okay

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I know what yours looks like. The 550 is actually a dual motor unit using two Hoover Spirit canister motors, kind of a fascinating looking unit honestly. I wouldn't mind adding one of those 550 units for my collection:) Check out this thread from vacuumland and see some cool pictures that Owen took of these Hoovers!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO panasonicvac's LINK


Post# 1112029 , Reply# 22   3/19/2021 at 07:06 (1,127 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
My 400

looks more like that 550 in stainless, but it's maroon red. I added a muffler, and I never had Hoover attachments. I had an MD swivel full feature hose. It finally tore apart behind the grip about 10 years ago. I got a Canavac pistol grip in black with only a powerhead switch, no 24 volt unit switch. I either use My Eureka vintage Vibragroomer 1 with extruded aluminum roll, or Vibragroomer 3 double brush stainless roll. Those were the same Beam supplied with their kits.

Post# 1112038 , Reply# 23   3/19/2021 at 09:35 (1,127 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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just an update slad vaccum was fix they put a new pipe so will see i will keep up with update if central vaccum is replace


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