Thread Number: 86693
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Post# 1112741 , Reply# 1   3/25/2021 at 23:10 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)   |   | |
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Also, are Kenmore parts easy to come by? I know the Maytag parts are still produced for the Amish, in fact I just ordered a few parts for them for my pink Maytag. |
Post# 1112744 , Reply# 2   3/25/2021 at 23:27 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Hello Zachary!
Haven't tuned in in a month of Sundays, and you popped up just as I logged on. I see you're a newbie. A warm welcome. For a Visimatic lover like me, this a a very rare dream machine. It hails from the late 50's--7, 8, or 9. If we can get the model number we'll know immediately. There were only two models with the wash and drain controls configured in this fashion. One was somehow electronic, and you pushed the levers; the other was manual and you pulled the levers up. Not sure which one this is. Each model was offered for only one season. Not to get lost in the weeds, but Whirlpool (Kenmore's manufacturer) made an electronic model for its own brand, and I could be mistaken about the Kenmore version of that one. This machine saw very light usage. How I would love to have this, if you do not buy it. Would you provide the details, please. Thank you, Michael |
Post# 1112746 , Reply# 4   3/25/2021 at 23:39 (1,120 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1112747 , Reply# 5   3/25/2021 at 23:40 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 1112749 , Reply# 7   3/25/2021 at 23:50 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)   |   | |
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Im also seriously considering this Kenmore too, these are the sellers pictures to prove that its working. Have you seen this model Kenmore before too? |
Post# 1112759 , Reply# 8   3/26/2021 at 04:54 (1,120 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Welcome Zackary, And hi Michael glad you checked in.
This KM WW was built in the 50th week of 1961, it looks to be in great shape. Parts for WP built WWs are non- existent, even parts like a water pump are not around.
That said the KM WW is a much better performer and safer machine but the MT would be easier to keep going because some parts are out there however keep in mind most repairs on WWs are not easy when it comes to water and oil leaks broken gears etc.
There were a few KM WWs with an electric shift for the agitation and pump controls that worked off the transmission with solenoids like the WP automatics, Like Mike said these were rare and of course they were not electronically controlled.
You might try offering a lot less for the LKM as it is unlikely to go for anything close to $350.
John L. |
Post# 1112770 , Reply# 9   3/26/2021 at 10:09 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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That newly posted beauty is indeed from the 50's, Mid to Late, and it is in incredible condition for being nearly 65 years old. There are so many Visimatics on Ebay all the time, the best ones often going quickly, but the gem in post number one is not among them. Of course it's yours, but curious as to where the pink pushbutton masterpiece is located.
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Post# 1112772 , Reply# 10   3/26/2021 at 10:12 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 1112774 , Reply# 11   3/26/2021 at 10:40 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)   |   | |
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The kenmore is actually located in Michigan. The Maytag is being shipped to me from Wisconsin. The white Kenmore is located in Portland Maine |
Post# 1112775 , Reply# 12   3/26/2021 at 10:41 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)   |   | |
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Oh Mickey! I also saw you had a black stone wringer. There’s one on eBay I’m considering on buying. What are your thoughts ? Do you still have your black stone? The one on eBay would be a huge gamble since the seller never replies to messages. |
Post# 1112777 , Reply# 13   3/26/2021 at 10:52 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The Blackstone works perfectly, even the timer which has failed on a few other machines after continued outdoor washing. So is the Michigan machine on eBay or Criagslist?
About the Pushbutton timers on WP/KM Conventionals. Circa 1960, on its Automatic Lady K, Kenmore delighted us with an all pushbutton, no dial timer called rapid advance. Breath-taking. So I figured this item on the Conventional was electronic. My bad, but now to hear form John that it was a solenoid is even more fascinating. Just like the automatics. I would give an arm and a leg to see and hear such a rare bird peep. |
Post# 1112778 , Reply# 14   3/26/2021 at 10:54 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 1112782 , Reply# 15   3/26/2021 at 11:26 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Not much said about it, tho, in the booklet
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Post# 1112784 , Reply# 16   3/26/2021 at 11:35 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 1112787 , Reply# 18   3/26/2021 at 12:04 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Maybe if our Fred, the Blackstone Czar, (smile), comes around, he'll comment. The machines were made in Jamestown, NY, seventy miles from Buffalo where I live. There were Blackstones all over this area. They are powerful, reliable workhorses. I have the Royalist Automatic and the 330p Wringer exactly like that of your post. I love them; they remind me of robots, somehow. They march on relentlessly, no matter what.
The one you seek is interesting because it has severe wear in spots, but pristine in others. Negotiate the price. The Hydractor agitator in action is a sight to behold. Connecticut is a hike from Western New York. By the way Zack, where in tarnation is Montverde? |
Post# 1112791 , Reply# 20   3/26/2021 at 12:40 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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My beloved late mother Geraldine said I reached up for her Frigidaire WO-65 before I could walk or talk. Loved washers my whole long life, found this place in 2006 on New Years Day. Before that, I knew NO ONE who loved washers they way I did. Now, we are legion, (laughs)!
Like Maytags, the Blackstones retained their look for decades. Most of the ones we see look exactly like yours pictured. The style and design was changed in later years. Estimate ours at mid to late 50's. Fred will know this stuff backwards. Hope he sees this. Long time members are in and out with the seasons, or as the spirit moves us. |
Post# 1112796 , Reply# 21   3/26/2021 at 14:17 (1,119 days old) by kd12 (Arkansas)   |   | |
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So I have to ask...how did a wringer washer rate the Lady Kenmore designation in 1961? I would have thought a wringer washer to be the absolute BOL model by '61. |
Post# 1112798 , Reply# 22   3/26/2021 at 14:54 (1,119 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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How did a Kenmore wringer washer rate a Lady Kenmore designation in ‘61?
Because there were still lots of people that used wringer washers then, despite the advent of automatic washers since the first Bendix in ‘38.
Sears always had an array of all their appliances from the least expensive to the most and by giving the Lady Kenmore moniker they could command more money. And the LK wringers were really tricked out, with timers that stopped the agitation at the selected time, of course a pump for draining and some even had lint filters.
The models that were BOL wringers didn’t have a pump, timer or anything else extra, they were basic on and off machines. And needless to say the BOL’s only came in white. To get Pink you had to move up to an LK. If you ever get a chance to look at an old Sears Roebuck catalog you’ll be amazed at what was offered.
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Post# 1112800 , Reply# 23   3/26/2021 at 15:05 (1,119 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)   |   | |
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Thats a great origin story Mike! I believe you were in the Sunday Morning Special too right? |
Post# 1112906 , Reply# 24   3/27/2021 at 17:38 (1,118 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Hi Zack, trying to reach you--can't find the pushbuttoneer, (smiles). Get in touch when you're able. Thanks
Not sure who the guy in the pic above is. This is me, surrounded by a few really famous members: the webmaster, Robert, on the far left; in the middle is Michael, Chestermike of England; Peter, Petek, of Canada; and me Michael of the USA. Michael, Peter, and I spent the weekend together in Canton Ohio about 10 years ago at a Washer/Vacuum convention, and became great friends.
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