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Post# 1112740   3/25/2021 at 23:01 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Hello all! Here's a washer that looks pretty interesting. Its from an estate sale, can anyone tell what "year" it is and if its desirable? Still works and still has manual. Its selling for 350$ which is no doubt too much.

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Post# 1112741 , Reply# 1   3/25/2021 at 23:10 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Also, are Kenmore parts easy to come by? I know the Maytag parts are still produced for the Amish, in fact I just ordered a few parts for them for my pink Maytag.

Post# 1112744 , Reply# 2   3/25/2021 at 23:27 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Sometimes life is truly miraculous ~

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Hello Zachary!

Haven't tuned in in a month of Sundays, and you popped up just as I logged on. I see you're a newbie. A warm welcome. For a Visimatic lover like me, this a a very rare dream machine. It hails from the late 50's--7, 8, or 9. If we can get the model number we'll know immediately.

There were only two models with the wash and drain controls configured in this fashion. One was somehow electronic, and you pushed the levers; the other was manual and you pulled the levers up. Not sure which one this is. Each model was offered for only one season. Not to get lost in the weeds, but Whirlpool (Kenmore's manufacturer) made an electronic model for its own brand, and I could be
mistaken about the Kenmore version of that one.

This machine saw very light usage. How I would love to have this, if you do not buy it. Would you provide the details, please. Thank you,

Michael



Post# 1112745 , Reply# 3   3/25/2021 at 23:34 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Hello Michael! And thank you, I just joined about a week or so ago. Finally made the plunge and got myself a pink maytag wringer-washer, so joining this forum was a necessity! Pictured below. Well I better jump on this one then! If it doesnt go through Ill be sure to pass all the information onto you. Its going to be a long distance ship unfortuantely, but that seems to be how it goes with all these washers (nothing is ever close).

Another question, are Kenmore parts difficult to come by? I know the Amish still make parts for their MAYTAG washers (Ive just bought several from them recently).


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Post# 1112746 , Reply# 4   3/25/2021 at 23:39 (1,120 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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The Lady Kenmore is a 1961 model.

Post# 1112747 , Reply# 5   3/25/2021 at 23:40 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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That's a beautiful Version of the Classic Maytag-- the lettering, the color--AHHHH.

Don't really know about parts for the WP/KM's though. Repair Clinic comes to mind. Believe other members know of a very few other remaining parts sources.

Where is this machine?


Post# 1112748 , Reply# 6   3/25/2021 at 23:45 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

I"m a basic member so Ill need to wait about 30 minutes before i can continue posting. This washer is in Michigan specifically, getting it to Florida where I am is a challenge. Uship.com has worked for me so far. Sure Ill try Repair Clinic (hopefully ill never need them), since it currently works well.

Post# 1112749 , Reply# 7   3/25/2021 at 23:50 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Im also seriously considering this Kenmore too, these are the sellers pictures to prove that its working. Have you seen this model Kenmore before too?

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Post# 1112759 , Reply# 8   3/26/2021 at 04:54 (1,120 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1961 LKM Wringer Washer

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Welcome Zackary, And hi Michael glad you checked in.

 

This KM WW was built in the 50th week of 1961, it looks to be in great shape. Parts for WP built WWs are non- existent, even parts like a water pump are not around.

 

That said the KM WW is a much better performer and safer machine but the MT would be easier to keep going because some parts are out there however keep in mind most repairs on WWs are not easy when it comes to water and oil leaks broken gears etc.

 

There were a few KM WWs with an electric shift for the agitation and pump controls that worked off the transmission with solenoids like the WP automatics, Like Mike said these were rare and of course they were not electronically controlled.

 

You might try offering a lot less for the LKM as it is unlikely to go for anything close to $350.

 

John L.


Post# 1112770 , Reply# 9   3/26/2021 at 10:09 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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That newly posted beauty is indeed from the 50's, Mid to Late, and it is in incredible condition for being nearly 65 years old. There are so many Visimatics on Ebay all the time, the best ones often going quickly, but the gem in post number one is not among them. Of course it's yours, but curious as to where the pink pushbutton masterpiece is located.


Post# 1112772 , Reply# 10   3/26/2021 at 10:12 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Didn't see post 6. Thanks. Let me know more, if you decide not to buy.

Post# 1112774 , Reply# 11   3/26/2021 at 10:40 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

The kenmore is actually located in Michigan. The Maytag is being shipped to me from Wisconsin. The white Kenmore is located in Portland Maine

Post# 1112775 , Reply# 12   3/26/2021 at 10:41 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Oh Mickey! I also saw you had a black stone wringer. There’s one on eBay I’m considering on buying. What are your thoughts ? Do you still have your black stone? The one on eBay would be a huge gamble since the seller never replies to messages.

Post# 1112777 , Reply# 13   3/26/2021 at 10:52 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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The Blackstone works perfectly, even the timer which has failed on a few other machines after continued outdoor washing. So is the Michigan machine on eBay or Criagslist?

About the Pushbutton timers on WP/KM Conventionals. Circa 1960, on its Automatic Lady K, Kenmore delighted us with an all pushbutton, no dial timer called rapid advance. Breath-taking. So I figured this item on the Conventional was electronic. My bad, but now to hear form John that it was a solenoid is even more fascinating. Just like the automatics. I would give an arm and a leg to see and hear such a rare bird peep.


Post# 1112778 , Reply# 14   3/26/2021 at 10:54 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
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Post# 1112782 , Reply# 15   3/26/2021 at 11:26 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Early Pushbutton Model

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Not much said about it, tho, in the booklet

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Post# 1112784 , Reply# 16   3/26/2021 at 11:35 (1,120 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Post# 1112785 , Reply# 17   3/26/2021 at 11:43 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

The Michigan one was on Facebook Marketplace actually. The one in Maine is this Kenmore below. That one is on Facebook too. Ive found that FB is probably the latest and greatest way of finding these washers. Easy to communicate with buyer, making offers, and getting additional pictures. I recommend it.

For the Blackstone, Im attaching a link. Id like your professional opinion really, its been sitting on ebay for a few months. I just like the look of it. Again the seller never really replies. Do you by chance know this machine? Its located in CT not too far from you

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143985378249QUE...


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Post# 1112787 , Reply# 18   3/26/2021 at 12:04 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Maybe if our Fred, the Blackstone Czar, (smile), comes around, he'll comment. The machines were made in Jamestown, NY, seventy miles from Buffalo where I live. There were Blackstones all over this area. They are powerful, reliable workhorses. I have the Royalist Automatic and the 330p Wringer exactly like that of your post. I love them; they remind me of robots, somehow. They march on relentlessly, no matter what.

The one you seek is interesting because it has severe wear in spots, but pristine in others. Negotiate the price. The Hydractor agitator in action is a sight to behold. Connecticut is a hike from Western New York. By the way Zack, where in tarnation is Montverde?


Post# 1112788 , Reply# 19   3/26/2021 at 12:13 (1,120 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Oh excellent, I sure hope the resident Blackstone expert can chime in on this one. It is an interesting one for sure! Would you say this one is from the 40s? Which year is your Blackstone from?

Haha, its right between Clermont and Winter Garden - about 15 miles WEST of Orlando. Its a lovely rural area, in fact its an older more established area and most of the homes are from the early 20th century. My particular home is from 1948 and Im doing my best to keep as much as possible to that era. That includes the machinery. How did you get into collecting washing machines? I officially now have two, there might be no end in sight for me!


Post# 1112791 , Reply# 20   3/26/2021 at 12:40 (1,120 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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My beloved late mother Geraldine said I reached up for her Frigidaire WO-65 before I could walk or talk. Loved washers my whole long life, found this place in 2006 on New Years Day. Before that, I knew NO ONE who loved washers they way I did. Now, we are legion, (laughs)!

Like Maytags, the Blackstones retained their look for decades. Most of the ones we see look exactly like yours pictured. The style and design was changed in later years. Estimate ours at mid to late 50's. Fred will know this stuff backwards. Hope he sees this. Long time members are in and out with the seasons, or as the spirit moves us.


Post# 1112796 , Reply# 21   3/26/2021 at 14:17 (1,119 days old) by kd12 (Arkansas)        
LK Name on a Wringer?

So I have to ask...how did a wringer washer rate the Lady Kenmore designation in 1961? I would have thought a wringer washer to be the absolute BOL model by '61.

Post# 1112798 , Reply# 22   3/26/2021 at 14:54 (1,119 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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How did a Kenmore wringer washer rate a Lady Kenmore designation in ‘61?

 

 Because there were still lots of people that used wringer washers then, despite the advent of automatic washers since the first Bendix in ‘38.  

 

Sears always had an array of all their appliances from the least expensive to the most and by giving the Lady Kenmore moniker they could command more money.  And the LK wringers were really tricked out, with timers that stopped the agitation at the selected time, of course a pump for draining and some even had lint filters.  

 

The models that were BOL wringers didn’t have a pump, timer or anything else extra, they were basic on and off machines.  And needless to say the BOL’s only came in white.  To get Pink you had to move up to an LK.  If you ever get a chance to look at an old Sears Roebuck catalog you’ll be amazed at what was offered.

 

Eddie 


Post# 1112800 , Reply# 23   3/26/2021 at 15:05 (1,119 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Thats a great origin story Mike!

I believe you were in the Sunday Morning Special too right?






Post# 1112906 , Reply# 24   3/27/2021 at 17:38 (1,118 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Hi Zack, trying to reach you--can't find the pushbuttoneer, (smiles). Get in touch when you're able. Thanks

Not sure who the guy in the pic above is. This is me, surrounded by a few really famous members: the webmaster, Robert, on the far left; in the middle is Michael, Chestermike of England; Peter, Petek, of Canada; and me Michael of the USA. Michael, Peter, and I spent the weekend together in Canton Ohio about 10 years ago at a Washer/Vacuum convention, and became great friends.


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Post# 1113247 , Reply# 25   3/30/2021 at 17:54 (1,115 days old) by zzumwalt (MONTVERDE)        

Oh my bad, I meant if you were in the attached video somewhere - and not in that specific thumbnail. One of these days ill have to attend one of these meetings!


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