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Post# 1113255   3/30/2021 at 19:15 (423 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)        

My daughter's 10+ year old Kenmore Elite/Whirlpool POS died on Sunday and after reading your comments, went with a Maytag MDB4949SKZ0. Nice looking machine, and she needs a unit with the chopper blade - her 10 year olds load the dishwasher! Fairly basic on features for $740, but I think it will suit their needs. Besides, I had a 10% off coupon from Lowe's and they actually had one in stock. She had hoped to wait till a remodel later this year or next, but gotta have a dishwasher. I got it installed in a couple of hours this morning.
One surprise - the kick plate is made from plastic.....
Thanks for the advice!

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Post# 1113284 , Reply# 1   3/31/2021 at 00:50 (423 days old) by henene4 (Emden (Germany))        
Older model

This appears to be the "old" design before WP redesigned their wash system. Thus it also has the slightly higher usage profile. But nothing horrific. These machines are decent enough build, perform pretty well and look nice enough IMO. For drying she'll probably have to try around a bit. Sanitize on its own might create great drying results if the door is opened. Otherwise heated dry might be needed. Though using heated dry very much is said to shorten the machine life due to the higher strain on the electronics and the heater. Though that varrys greatly, some use heated dry all the time and have no issues, others get burned out heaters or stuck relays quickly. One thing she should be aware of is the usage of all cycles. All normal cycles should use about the same (about 2.5 up to 5 gallons depending on sensing). However the PowerBlast cycle will use about 9gal regardless and more often than not will not be needed. Both normal and auto use sensing for soil and load size, so they will adapt. More soul means more water changes and more wash time, so not prerinsing is key there. Quick is fixed at about 5gal. That cycle does not soil Sense and is generally done in an hour. It prewashes (once or twice I don't remember), washes, double rinses and then basically ends there, so no drying unless heated dry is selected. Opening the door immediately after cycle end will allow for flash drying though. And that cycle should handle most not to dried on stuff well. People recommend running the hot water at the sink before starting to get hot water to the machine from the start. With the quick cycle I'd recommend that as well. However normal and auto should sense incoming water temp and adapt, so that might not be needed IMO. For general use, the default Auto cycle should do most of the work. The quick cycle is great as long as you immediately open the door at the end of the cycle. Oh and make sure she runs a machine clean cycle now and then. The grinder and screen clean themselves mostly. A few people however had theirs clogg after a couple of years requiring disassembly of the pump system for cleaning. A Power Blast cycle with just detergent and no dishes once or twice a year should reduce the risk of that.

Post# 1113450 , Reply# 2   4/1/2021 at 11:29 (422 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Henrik that is the newest version of Maytag dishwasher with new front controls and Dual Power Filtration system. Also has the extra extra tall tubs.

Post# 1113685 , Reply# 3   4/4/2021 at 09:22 (419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Hi Steve, I think you will have a good experience with this DW.


Reply #1, I would disregard almost entirely, LOL


John L.

Post# 1136133 , Reply# 4   12/13/2021 at 19:27 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
spray arm operation

Does this operate all arms at once or do they alternate?

Post# 1136162 , Reply# 5   12/14/2021 at 07:09 by PinkPower4 (USA)        
I am thinking of getting Model #MDB8959SKB

I am thinking of getting Model #MDB8959SKB, so I will be curious to see what the review on this one is. I think the model I'm looking at just has more features. I have to say that it looks very nice and blends in well with her kitchen! The handles on the cabinets are a nice touch. I hope some day to redo my kitchen, and I really like the white with what looks to be stainless steel accents.

I was also thinking about the Bosch 800. There is quite a bit of price difference though. I also think it may be easier to get parts for the Maytag one. I know that I really like the old Maytag with the timer dial I had before the one I have now.

I have a Frigidaire that is about 7 or 8 years old now. I can only get it to work by setting it to delay start now as the start button is broken, and the delay button is really finicky. I will be buying a dishwasher soon. It works better once I got the Cascade Boil Out from Amazon, which is something that you all may want to try if you haven't already. I've also had good luck with Finish and the Cascade tablets vs other brands. However, I've always used it with the heated dry and a rinsing agent. It sounds like it is better to have a dry system like the Bosch?

Post# 1136168 , Reply# 6   12/14/2021 at 10:35 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Cascade Boil Out doesn't have enzymes so doesn't work well for me on egg residue.  I keep Walmart or Cascade powder on-hand for those loads.

An old Maytag from the age of mechanical timers cannot be compared to one today.  Whirlpool bought Maytag in 2006, as you probably know, so current models are based on WP design, very different from what Maytag produced.

Bosch's drying systems rely on residual heat from the final rinse, and rinse agent is part of the equation.

Post# 1136196 , Reply# 7   12/14/2021 at 16:12 by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Cascade boil out is the ONLY detergent that worked in my Kenmore portable.

Cascade platinum leaves that horrible film and finish tablets oversuds.

More recently, I started using finish gel (I actually bought it to try just because the bottle was cute) during the prewash and cascade FBO in the main wash dispenser and the results improved.

Good news is: Cascade FBO can be found at 99 cents stores for $1.99/box if i'm not mistaken (2,99 perhaps?)

Post# 1136199 , Reply# 8   12/14/2021 at 17:19 by appnut (TX)        

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The Bosch 800 I bought last May is the best dishwasher I've ever used in my life as far as cleaning and drying. CrystalDry results reminds me of a 1960s/1970s KitchenAid drying performance. I activated the Extra Dry option when I discovered it was an option. I've never had a dishwasher remove scrmbled eggs from a SS skillet. I've never been able to have my crock pot liner emerge fully cleaned when the cycle is fininshed. I just use auto cycle with crysta dry and sani rinse options selected. Detergent is Finish Quantum. I normally use Finish Max-in-1. Also Finish Jet Dry.

Post# 1136200 , Reply# 9   12/14/2021 at 17:58 by peteski50 (New York)        
Bosch 300!

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I have a Bosch 300 and I am also very happy with the results. I mostly use the Auto cycle with Finish Quantum and jetdry mine is 2 1/2 years old!

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