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Post# 1113365   3/31/2021 at 12:47 (1,120 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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hello to all aw members what are your toughs on this video do not went to start a drama or debate on what washer is better but the one that made this video seem to be a critic even do in 2004 pass from a top load to a front load i think in my honest opinion the one that made this video needs to do his homework about washers but thats my toughs









Post# 1113381 , Reply# 1   3/31/2021 at 14:25 (1,120 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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As far as I'm concerned no conventional top loader will clean as well as a good front loader. The amount of water is only a part of the performance and with todays detergents it's just not necessary to have clothes swimming around in a water bath. Not to mention that for each gallon of water the strength of the detergent is being reduced.
However if I was looking at a convention washer I'd probably be looking for something like that Maytag. The difference in agitation between it and the SQ is quite remarkable and telling.



Post# 1113421 , Reply# 2   4/1/2021 at 05:17 (1,119 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
I have owned both an LG Front Load and THIS Maytag mvwp575gw

 Both machines (LG front load and Maytag mvwp575gw) I owned would be considered good overall choices. I personally think this person did a good review and made some important points. Some of it is personal preference between the two different styles. Having owned both, I’m not really sure what he said that made you feel like he needed to do more homework before producing that review.

Where I saw the biggest difference between what came out clean and what didn’t was with bulky items like a comforter. When I washed my son’s comforter (regularly washed in the front load) in the top load for the first time, the water was brown. It was eye opening. Larger items don’t really have a way of unfolding and all of the surfaces getting clean.

Another area where I saw a big difference is I really liked the sani cycle of the front load. I could use sani cycle to get the gym, mildew, or pet smell out of items with no bleach needed. This cycle was very long. With my top load, I have found that adding vinegar or Lysol Laundry sanitizer to the rinse cycle will pretty much give the same results in a lot less time.

The Maytag has tap hot unlike many front loads (makes no sense since front loads use so little water anyway) and HE top loads which do not. The only cycle that add some cold when hot is chosen is the Normal Eco. Hot is warm. Warm is cool. Surprisingly, this cycle with its spray rinse (spray is directed toward clothes) works very well for smaller loads except delicates (wash action too rough) and where a quick wash is needed. I have found a way to have tap hot for this load when needed. There is supposed to be an LG front load that can do a quick wash in about the same amount of time now.

Now that I realize the automatic temperature is only used to add cold to hot for the Normal cycle, I see it actually is useful for the main cycles because it adds hot to maintain a minimize temperature for the cold and cool cycles too, so the detergent will dissolve.

This Maytag model is sold as a 3.5 cu. ft. capacity in the U.S. but as a 4.0 cu. ft. capacity in Canada. My personal experience is that I can put as much in the Maytag as I could my LG 4.2 cu. ft. capacity.

The wash times for my front load were longer. It would take me well over an hour to wash a load. I can wash any load in this Maytag in 25 minutes (Normal) to 45 minutes (Powerwash) if no other options are chosen. Adding a presoak or extra rinse will add 10 minutes each. This machine handles continuous loads like a champ on the days I run it from morning to night. Short cycles means I can do a regular load or two at night after a long day at work. Normal is also really great for those times when an item has to be washed by itself or for quick washes/smaller loads.

This washer (and the Speed Queen TC5) only spin at around 700 rpm while my LG spun at around 1200. At most, it only takes me 10 more minutes to dry the load. However, I use a spin dryer (look at Panda or The Laundry Alternative Ninja) to cut my dry time to less than half. This is one energy savings that the only compromise is just an extra step. I really do see the difference every month in my bill.

Agitator. The dual action agitator moves clothes down, in, and through the water so that all surfaces get washed. A front load simply cannot do this especially with larger items. This type of agitator works better than a straight vane too especially for these larger and bulkier items.

Maytag got it right with the cycles. The deep water cycles (Powerwash, Mixed, Delicate, and Bulky) also work as expected, and I can set the water temperature to tap cold, cold, cool, warm, or [tap] hot. Normal works great for quick washes and smaller loads. There is also a drain/spin and spin only selection too.

Both Maytag and LG have added features that make it easier for the consumer to replace some parts, but the top load is easier for me to repair. Most repairs can be accessed by removing the console panel (four screws at most), the front panel, or tilting the washer on its side. I had to remove the console panel and front panel just to replace the drain pump on the front load. With this top load, the two areas for concern would be the control board and gear box. I also expect to get at least ten years out of my machine. The only examples I’ve seen where the gear boxes have failed on these models were commercial use. There is one person here using it for residential use that had some issues too. More than likely most of these washers also saw more than the usual amounts of overloading, chemicals, etc. Although it is marketed as a commercial washer, it is more like a better built residential washer. For the record, I realized I only had my LG front load for nine years before the bearing went out. The old-fashioned top loads everyone raves about lasted me 15 years (I had one of the really good Whirlpools)—I should have repaired it.

This is the new version of the old-school washer with its pros and cons. It does not have traditional transmission. Instead it uses a gear box, splutch, and mode shifter. These parts won’t last as long, but they splutch and mode shifter are inexpensive and easy for most consumers to replace. I’ve seen the gear box for under $200, and I think I could replace that too. I might even be able to replace the seals and bearings on the Maytag whereas I don’t think I could with the Speed Queen TC5 and certainly not the front load (this would have required removing almost every.single. screw, hose, and wiring connections).

Lid lock is easily disabled. Remove the two screws and slide the piece off the top of the lid. Place the latch in the slot as needed. Remove at end of cycle and replace. It’s a safety feature that should NOT be removed if there are children, disabled adults, or curious pets. The only time the lid locks is when the washer is in the spin cycle. You can open the lid at any other time, but the washer will stop filling or agitating until the lid is closed again. I could pause my LG too, but I think there were parts of the cycle where I could not???

You can pause longer than ten minutes. With the washer lid CLOSED, press the green button to pause. If you pause the washer with the lid open and don’t resume the cycle within ten minutes, the water will drain out. If you press the button for three seconds or longer, you will cancel the wash cycle and water drains out. I can’t do this with a front load, and the Lysol Laundry Sanitizer says it needs 16 minutes to work. Plus, all of the clothes would not be covered in the water/sanitizer mix.

The suspension. The Maytag does use hung suspension. Wash like items with like items, and don’t wash stuff like pet beds or bed pillows in it. Take them to a laundry mat or choose alternatives (dog mats work better) and use slip covers over pillows that can protect the pillow and can be removed for cleaning instead of the whole pillow.

I completely agree that it takes plenty of water, a good detergent, and the correct temperature to clean clothes. I adjusted the water level control on my LG to where the water came up just to the door. Both of these washers can achieve that in different ways. The front load does this by increasing the cycle time and some have internal heaters. One thing that is interesting to me. The Speed Queen TR has plenty of water, but just a swishing wash action. It seems like by adding more time to the cycle is how they achieved a better rating with a later model. The Maytag has shorter cycles but more water and a better wash action.

If I could buy any new washer today, it would be the real old fashioned Maytag/Whirlpool top load with a dual action agitator. It’s not coming back. I was hopeful SQ would bring back their recently discontinued AWN, but that does not look like it will happen either. The TC5 with its two control boards or Maytag with its one control board and VMW design just aren’t the same, but they are the best two top loads in my opinion. I would still look at LG or SQ for front loads.

This summer, I will have owned my Maytag for three years now. This washer combines the most effective wash action with short cycles. It may not last quite as long as the SQ TC5, but I feel it is the best new top load choice for our family’s needs. I honestly did not notice that much difference in the water bill with just normal amounts of laundry.

My opinion, is the reviewer did a good job highlighting the features he liked about the Maytag and explained why that was important to him based on is experiences.









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