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Thread Number: 86875
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Post# 1114382 4/12/2021 at 03:14 (1,103 days old) by askolover  (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Well, since I've been driving my little 2001 VW TDI Bug officially for 20 years, I'm officially on the market for something else. I did have my heart set on a new little AWD Buick Encore (not the new GX model) and that's still a possibility but I really need a truck. I'd love to find an old reliable truck for a reasonable price but what I consider reasonable seems to have over 200k miles on them. So I'm toying with the idea of just getting a new 4x4 truck. I want a reliable one. I don't care about the name on the grille as much as reliability. Toyota Tacoma is my first choice but it's quite pricey. I could get a new Nissan Frontier for less and a king cab Ram in the same price range. I've heard some things about the new Ford and GM models having engine issues. I typically don't buy Chrysler products...and the Rams are hit or miss with electronic issues. They don't even have a gear shift anymore...it's a knob you turn (like some of the Ford cars). Lightly used or lease return trucks are about as much as brand new ones. What to do what to do?? I plan to keep it for the next 20 years or even the rest of my (driving) life if possible. Any of you have recommendations or avoidances to tell about?
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| Post# 1114385 , Reply# 1 4/12/2021 at 03:52 (1,103 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
The Buick Encore is made in China, I would pass on that one.
A new 4X4 truck is going to set you back, bigtime. The reliability on the Nissan Frontier is not the best. Electrical problems are plaguing just about all domestic trucks, not just Ram. A full size 4X4 domestic truck can set you back almost 6 figures today. I'd personally stick with a 4X4 Toyota Tacoma unless you really need a Tundra. Drive it easy and do all of the maintenance according the "severe" schedule in the owners manual, and you should easily get 20 years of service. If I were you, I'd keep driving the TDI until it falls apart or repairs cost beyond the value of the car. Those get great fuel mileage and are much more reliable than gas versions. | ||
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Post# 1114386 , Reply# 2 4/12/2021 at 05:12 (1,103 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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I love my Jeep Cherokee, although not a cheap Jeep, payments are a heap!
Still although sacrificing the dual-zone automatic climate control system for a single-zone manual one, I got a lot of features I wish my Compass had (the delay wipers didn't even have more two settings, and this is my first Rainsense wiper system) like footwell lighting with nightlighting and lights under the side view mirrors, the lane change safety system and park assist which my Chrysler 200 I had before the Compass didn't even have... And a trailer towing package... I had it for a month and it made it in a short trip to and from North Carolina, so I think I got a pretty good buy, and the only real inherent problems the Compass had was a couple fuel system problems both of which got fixed under warranty... So I wish myself good luck with it during the lease this is under and I ended my previous lease early for... -- Dave | ||
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Post# 1114396 , Reply# 3 4/12/2021 at 07:12 (1,103 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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| Post# 1114419 , Reply# 5 4/12/2021 at 12:40 (1,102 days old) by schmitty (Florida) | ||
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The change from a bug to a truck doesnt seem logical. Why the need for a truck now? Just get another TDI bug and be good for another 20 years. | ||
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Post# 1114425 , Reply# 6 4/12/2021 at 12:58 (1,102 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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The other harf occasionally hints at wanting a pickup again. His previous one was a then new 06 Ram quad cab replaced by an 16 Forester. Other than some rust starting around the rear wheel wells it never gave us any problems with the engine or other mechanics/electronics which surprised me. I took a quick look online both new and used and whoa have they gotten pricey. And yes even the 2nd hand late models are asking so close price-wise to a new model that it barely seems worth going that route. Looks and ride-comfort wise I do like the RAM p/u best. What I don't like about them is parking. Heck I could park my longer 75 Buick easier than a quad cab p/u.
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Post# 1114427 , Reply# 7 4/12/2021 at 13:04 (1,102 days old) by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon) |
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I have owned two 4WD Toyota trucks. I have not ever regretted them. They have got me thru everywhere I was going. Desert, snow, sand etc. First one I bought in 1992. Red, 5 speed, 6 cyl extended cab. 29 years later my grandson is driving it and restoring it up to teen age standards. The original engine is great and strong and never been rebuilt.
2011 I bought a new Tacoma with crew cab. Silver, 6 cyl etc and all of the gadgets that Toyota offered at the time. Last pickup for me to say. We had planned to retire and hit the road in it with a trailer but surgery on legs stopped me in my tracks. Now we take short trips and usually one 5 week driving trip a year. I would recommend new or used because they are built for the long haul. Be patient and get what you want. | ||
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Post# 1114429 , Reply# 8 4/12/2021 at 13:19 (1,102 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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Last Sept I just bought a 2007 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 from a friend who purchased it new. In 2019 Toyota replaced the frame under warranty so Im good for at least 10 years if I keep it washed in Winter. It only has 52k on it and I stole it for $7000.00, I've been offered $11k a few times already. High miles means nothing for these trucks but corrosion does. Its a base model which means standard cab and short bed. It doesnt have intermitten wipers, alarm system, blue tooth or USB ports on the radio, has crank windows and a single disc CD player in the dash, plus its a 4 cyl 5 speed trans. Although I would have wanted an auto in this particular vehicle even though I prefer manual trans. Its about as basic a truck as it gets these days. Only thing it has I dislike is the knob to switch it from 2WD to 4WD, I rather have the shifter. If you want a basic reliable simple truck this is it. They stopped selling them in 2015 and they seem to be a unicorn and very desirable with Toyota fans so prices are high but worth it. After buying that new 1982 Chevy C10 diesel I made them take back after 6 months I vowed never to own a domestic made vehicle unless it was built before 1970. In snow this thing was unstoppable last Winter. One of the best purchases I've made in years. I would look into one of these. As far as your 2000 TDI keep it! That has the bullet proof ALH engine and one of their best! My 2000 Golf is going on 215k and I cant kill it and will drive it another 20 years.
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Post# 1114432 , Reply# 9 4/12/2021 at 13:33 (1,102 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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 I love my 2003 Subaru Baja 5-speed, which I bought about five years ago. It's enough of a truck for my needs and like all Subarus, it's AWD (although I couldn't care less about off-roading and it's road clearance precludes that). I've fit a 12' 4x4 in it with bed extender deployed, ski hatch open and back seat folded down.
I want no part of newer vehicles where you have to do everything on a touch screen, which IMO is a distraction that creates hazardous driving. Nor do I like vehicles that cut the engine at a stop light.
I think you'd be better off buying something pre-owned. Take your time until you find the right truck at the right price. It took me a year of looking before I found the Baja, mainly because I wanted leather interior, no garish two-tone paint scheme, and they were only produced for four model years. You'll likely find what you're looking for sooner than I did.
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Post# 1114441 , Reply# 10 4/12/2021 at 15:11 (1,102 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Colorado/Canyon are Wentzville, MO (along with the full-size vans). Sonic was Lake Orion; the Bolt has taken over that plant. GM pickup truck plants are Silao Mexico, Fort Wayne, IN and Flint, MI. They had final assembly on pickups at the Oshawa, Ontario plant to squeeeeeeze out a little more production of the former body style. (the problem is that the plants are either flexible truck-for-truck (body-on-frame) or car-based SUV for car-based SUV (unibody) but never the 'twain shall meet. Arlington, TX is only Suburban/Tahoe/Escalade...that plant COINS money! To optimize GM, they need about 3/4 of a plant more for pickups/utilities and about 3/4 of a plant less for unibody vehicles...
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Post# 1114442 , Reply# 11 4/12/2021 at 15:29 (1,102 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I have a 79 Plymouth Arrow P/U, 2WD, that's been sitting for over a decade because it burns too much oil. I have since figured that it probably can be cured with a new head (the one on there had to have a crack welded about 20 years ago, and it's probably cracked again). When I get around to it.
Meanwhile I got a '78 Dodge full size P/U, but after it blew a core plug on the freeway and toasted the motor, I scrapped it. Current "truck" is a '67 Chevy Panel Van 108 with a 283 V8. It does what I need it to do, albeit riding a bit rough with the leaf spring front suspension. Have never felt the need for a 4x4, though. Although the Subaru version seems nice. | ||
| Post# 1114443 , Reply# 12 4/12/2021 at 15:48 (1,102 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
These are the only kinds of trucks I’d buy since they are easy to work on and are fairly reliable (that’s if you are gentle with them)
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Post# 1114448 , Reply# 13 4/12/2021 at 16:26 (1,102 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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In my neighborhood, there are a variety of trucks. I have a 13 Silverado that I love. Neighbors have Frontiers and Toyotas and a few Fords. I dont like the Fords start stop engine that slams on. Every one of the foreign ones suffer from rust issues. My Silverado gets a consistent 18 mpg with a 5.3 V8 and switching from 4 to 8 cylinders seamlessly.
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Post# 1114456 , Reply# 15 4/12/2021 at 18:31 (1,102 days old) by westtexman (Lubbock, Texas) |
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I recently bought a 2021 Ford F-150 4x4. I love it. The 2021’s have the 12-inch screen which is really nice and gives you a huge view on the backup camera. This is my 3rd Ford truck, and each has been very reliable. I love mine, and would highly recommend it. | ||
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Post# 1114498 , Reply# 16 4/13/2021 at 04:23 (1,102 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Oh I'm not getting rid of the TDI. Trade in value on it is only about $200. It's worth more in parts but it's still tucking along with the original turbo and clutch, just did brakes last year. I could drop another engine into it for about $3k and get another 300,000+ miles on it I'm sure. I saw another one across town with 309k miles on it but it was not in good shape. Mine just needs a headliner. I just can't haul anything in the bug or the Volvo S80. Tony wrecked our GMC Jimmy 4x4 that would go anywhere I needed it to go. I just miss having a truck. My '86 Silverado with the 6.2L diesel V8 was a reliable old truck but it needed a few seals replaced and I couldn't drive it in the winter unless a plug in was nearby...just too hard to start even with new glow plugs and a new injection pump. I had it for about 10 years anyway. It just had too much torque and anytime the road was the least bit wet or slick it would just sit there and spin. Had it been a 4wd I never would have gotten rid of it though. I loved that truck. I had over 200k miles on it when I sold it to a local guy who was a diesel mechanic. If I get an Encore I will wait til the Fall and pay cash for it when they mark down. I could currently get one for as low as $16,000 and a Chevy Trax for $14,000...I'd just have to travel a little distance to get that good of a deal...but it won't be the first time we've done that. Flew to Chicago to get my first Mercedes and drove all the way to Greensboro, NC to get our first Lincoln MKS because we just couldn't find what we wanted here.
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Post# 1114515 , Reply# 17 4/13/2021 at 09:20 (1,101 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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just get a box trailer and pull it behind your VW when you need to. I do that with my Golf wagon. Much nicer than driving a tank.
If you like VWs and must drive a monster, VW have one called Amarok, quite popular here in Australia, I just read the new model may be coming to USA in 2022. | ||
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Post# 1114524 , Reply# 19 4/13/2021 at 10:30 (1,101 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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 “New trucks are incredibly expensive! Expensive to purchase, insure, and pay taxes on. “
You said IT!
What happened to the days when a pickup truck was a UTILITARIAN vehicle, not a luxury vehicle, jam packed with technology completely unnecessary for any kind of utilitarian need?
And why do so many purchasers of trucks need 4X4? Now if you live in snow country or have to travel unpaved roads regularly then I can see that a 4X4 truck would be a necessity but for the average urban dweller its overkill.
The majority of these overloaded beasts now cost more than we paid for our first home in ‘87 which was $55,950!
I’m sure glad I don’t need to keep up with the Jones’s in this day and age.
If we needed a truck we’d look for a used bare bones Toyota Tacoma from the late 70’s to about ‘92. They are built to last. Or maybe a used Chevy 1/2 ton no newer than the early 90’s. Also, I’d NEVER buy any vehicle with a touch screen on the dash to control any functions like the radio, AC or heater. What a dangerous distraction.
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| Post# 1114750 , Reply# 21 4/15/2021 at 22:27 (1,099 days old) by 2packs4sure (houston) | ||
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Ford or Toyota If I had to buy a new one it would either be a Ford Ranger, Ford F150 with the 5.0 V8,, or a Toyota Tacoma or Tundra. I think those 4 can be counted on to be reliable. | ||
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Post# 1114765 , Reply# 22 4/16/2021 at 09:09 (1,098 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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sometimes you have to jump at time periods of when is the best time to buy a vehicle.....
remember when gas prices were hitting $4.00+ dollars a gallon?.....trade in for a Truck/SUV was pennies....yet any vehicle with a 4 cylinder was almost doubled in price to purchase.... same goes, this was the best time to buy a Truck/SUV with a V8....I bought it super cheap, it sat in the garage, and I drove my little 4cyl until the prices dropped.... from August to about Jan was the best time to buy a vehicle.....and still may be... car dealers were beyond desperate for sales....and were marking down vehicles like you wouldn't believe.... have two buddies who bought brand new trucks for half of the normal asking price last Summer..... I am not in the market for wanting a new Jeep, but the dealer has been emailing me offers for 2018/2019/2020 models.....they are down to $22,000.00 so far....if they hit under $20,000.00, I may have to jump at a new payment book.... | ||
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Post# 1114844 , Reply# 23 4/17/2021 at 02:55 (1,098 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Well I think I got lucky....some guy bought a new 2019 Nissan Frontier 4wd king cab with the SV package that includes heated CLOTH seats. Window sticker for the truck new was $31,995. He drove it for a year and decided he needed a bigger truck and traded it in for a BIG truck about a month ago. Trade-in value for this Frontier is $24,000. Dodge dealership where it was traded in had it marked down for $23,000. It only has 16,000 miles on it. So I bit the bullet and bought it. It is exactly what I was looking for...and it even still has a KEY! No push button start! It is the last of the 4.0L V6 engines with 5 speed automatic transmission...in 2020 Nissan put out a new 3.8L V6 and 9 speed transmission....I'd rather have the older one that's been out for a while and has been tried and tested. The new one is just still too new to judge reliability. It all fell into place...plus I got 2.9% on the loan and with my down payment I didn't finance that much. It has 261hp which is plenty. Still under Nissan factory warranty. Built in Canton, Mississippi. Some useless information...Nissan/Infiniti's corporate headquarters is 35 miles up the highway from where I live.
Martin, too bad you are so far away..I'd send you to our sales fellow. We really liked the dealership and our sales guy was fantastic. I will buy from him again when the time comes if they have what I'm looking for. They have about 5 dealerships so more to choose from than just CDJR vehicles.
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Post# 1114879 , Reply# 24 4/17/2021 at 12:46 (1,097 days old) by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon) |
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Post# 1114882 , Reply# 25 4/17/2021 at 13:00 (1,097 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Post# 1115116 , Reply# 27 4/19/2021 at 23:30 (1,095 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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It was actually assembled in Canton, Mississippi. As far as I can find, the trans is a JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company) product. The engine was built in Decherd, Tennessee. The Frontier is very popular around these parts. I went to run some errands today and I lost count of how many I saw running around. | ||
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