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Thread Number: 87032
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Tide Zero |
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| Post# 1116006 4/30/2021 at 17:33 (1,090 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada) | ||
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Saw this new Tide on the shelf today, couldn't get a pic, left my phone in the car. Has anyone seen it yet, it's in a white bottle I'm wondering if it's replacing both Free & Gentle and the Purclean or would it have any optical brighteners? | ||
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Post# 1116012 , Reply# 1 4/30/2021 at 19:14 (1,090 days old) by lakewebsterkid  (Dayton, Ohio) |
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It does not have OBAs. From what I see, the formula is identical to that of Free and Gentle, with the addition of the lavender scent. | ||
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Post# 1116017 , Reply# 2 4/30/2021 at 21:14 (1,090 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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P&G Finally Came To Their Senses
And realized Americans want a top shelf detergent that does not contain OBAs. MOst versions of Tide are loaded with the stuff including Studio line for darks and colors.
Sole option until now without OBAs is Tide PurClean, but that is a plant based product and P&G's effort at being "green". It cleans well enough I suppose, but doesn't seem to have the same oooph as say Tide Free and Gentle or other versions. Enter Tide Zero, an certified EPA "safer choice" product that is free of chlorine, dyes, and that includes OBAs. www.target.com/p/tide-zer.... Target supposedly sells Tide Zero, but have had no luck running it to ground. One wonders if this is yet another Tide detergent that will largely only be available up north (in Canada). Tide Coldwater "free and gentle" isn't sold in USA, nor can find Tide "hygienically" clean in "free and gentle" either. tide.ca/en-ca/shop/type/liquid... | ||
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Post# 1116018 , Reply# 3 4/30/2021 at 21:17 (1,090 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City) |
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Post# 1116047 , Reply# 4 5/1/2021 at 08:35 (1,089 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 1116078 , Reply# 5 5/1/2021 at 16:29 (1,089 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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No OBAs | ||
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Post# 1116081 , Reply# 6 5/1/2021 at 16:46 (1,089 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ) |
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I use Tide "original" , without the "HE" sticker in my top-loader, which gives me excellent results. I'm thinking that it doesn't have OBAs. Am I correct?
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Post# 1116088 , Reply# 7 5/1/2021 at 17:24 (1,089 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"Tide Free and Gentle as well as Free and Gentle with Downy liquids don't have OBAs"
Who told you that? Because it isn't true, not unless P&G has changed formula recently. www.ewg.org/guides/cleane... www.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/busin... Disodium diaminostilbene disulfonate is listed for Tide F&G right on webpage: pgproductsafety.com/productsafet... Virtually all Tide powder and liquid detergents begin from same base formula. Things are then added (or left out) depending upon final version being produced. If you look at safety data sheets for Tide liquid detergents you'll often see one document covers a long and exhaustive list of various versions. You can see from this list Tide isn't alone either.... www.whatsinproducts.com/c... That P&G is now making a version of Tide without OBAs tells me just their offering "Purclean" isn't hacking it alone in capturing the "green" or whatever market. There is a large and growing number of American households that want detergents without bluing or florescent brightening agents. This shouldn't come as a surprise as more and more laundry is made up of dark, rich or vibrant colors that shouldn't be subjected to OBAs. That and people just have a bug about the stuff, how it rubs off on skin, and so forth. | ||
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Post# 1116100 , Reply# 8 5/1/2021 at 20:27 (1,089 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Laundress Check SmartLabel. That site might be outdated. Littlegreeny is correct! | ||
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Post# 1116112 , Reply# 9 5/2/2021 at 00:29 (1,089 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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They removed OBAs from Tide F&G at least about a year ago. Check the SmartLabel link below. They are now putting ingredient lists right on their products and my bottle of Tide F&G with Downy does not list OBAs.
From what I can tell, the F&G formulas that still contain OBAs include their powder, pods and simply liquid. Ken, it looks like regular Tide still contains OBAs. CLICK HERE TO GO TO littlegreeny's LINK | ||
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Post# 1116119 , Reply# 10 5/2/2021 at 01:14 (1,088 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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I stand corrected
Had no idea P&G reformulated Tide F&G. Have several bottles in my stash (bought as part of a 2 for 1 sale at Rite Aid), so haven't bought or even looked at new bottles in a few years.
So if Tide F&G doesn't have OBAs, chlorine (never did), dyes, etc....what is the point of this "Zero" variation? One version has lavender scent, but so does Purclean. | ||
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Post# 1116124 , Reply# 11 5/2/2021 at 05:51 (1,088 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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OBAs
Various sources like specialized literature or the German Consumer Magazine indicate that OBAs don`t have an impact on bright and dark colors but can lead to considerable color changes of pastels or off whites.
Just think of old fashioned blueing. It wouldn`t change much the appearance of dark and bright colors but it would ruin anything off white or pale (pastel) colored. OBAs turn invisible UV light from daylight into visible blue light. So in summary when a little more blue light is reflected from garments, in theory it shouldn`t change the appearance of darks, which makes perfect sense to me. It does make sense not to use them in green detergents because they are not easily biodegradable and they have been suspect endocrine disruptors, not sure if this has ever been proven. For those who know German the last 3 lines sum it up very well.
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Post# 1116136 , Reply# 13 5/2/2021 at 10:12 (1,088 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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I think besides general color loss which is inevitable when washing with water and detergent a major reason for the grayish look like a white film is caused by roughening the surface of fabrics.
When fabrics are new the surface is more or less even and smooth. After a couple of washings more and more tiny little fibers stick out from the surface giving textiles the grayish velvety look. The enzyme Cellulase like in Tide Studio, Persil and so on is often advertised as "color care" or "renew effect" and it can indeed be useful to get more life out of natural fibers` colors. | ||
| Post# 1117014 , Reply# 14 5/12/2021 at 07:05 (1,078 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
Well in my experience OBA's do have an impact on darks as well. Cottons.
Is not the brightener itself but the lint. The more fine small lint patina there is on the surface the more they will look faded-discolored and if that fine lint is full of brightener will get bright-whiter with light and make it less vibrant-deep. This has been already discussed above, my experience is different though. Many products for colors do have a massive amount of cellulase enzyme to solve this lint problem or at least mitigate it. And often promise-advertise your garments Will look like brand new. This may or may not work so well because of length of cycle, hence cycle chosen or the kind of machine used. But the difference vs using a detergent without is noticeable. Of course as the item is new it doesn't have this surface lint patina. This post was last edited 05/12/2021 at 09:02 | ||
| Post# 1117016 , Reply# 15 5/12/2021 at 07:40 (1,078 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Anyway of course also have to say that the main concern of the consumers for the development of detergents without brighteners is often not about proper laundry care.
So we don't even have to puzzle ourselves too much as to why some stuff contains the thing or it doesn't, the public do have 1/10 of the knowledge we laundry people have. The thing is often merely about demanding a product that doesn't contain dyes and or scents. Allergies and skin problems are the main reason, that is besides simply wanting a product with not too much synthetic stuff cancirogens and such because of health concerns. Dyes, polimers scents and scent binder such as phtalates. Funnily some are more worried about what's in their detergents rather than their food. But that is another matter. This post was last edited 05/12/2021 at 08:58 | ||
| Post# 1117062 , Reply# 16 5/12/2021 at 15:54 (1,078 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
I am so glad they are coming out with a zero | ||
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