Thread Number: 87214
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
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Post# 1117948   5/22/2021 at 07:10 (1,041 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I love my old vintage DW’s but I run my machines so much I don’t want the wear and tear on them that they’re bound to get around my house. My vintage machines will always be in circulation but not permanent use as my daily driver and I’m wondering what make/model modern dishwasher (Something made after 1995 or so) would be best to look for. There’s an abundance of machines around 25 years old or less and I’m sure I can come across just about anything if I know what to look for. I used to have a nice early 2000’s Kenmore that always cleaned great, I gave it to my brother when I bought my new Kitchenaid in 2015 and I always regretted getting rid of it because the expensive SS Kitchenaid just didn’t compare with cleaning ability. As always I look forward to your opinions and expertise.
-Shannon |
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Post# 1118073 , Reply# 1   5/23/2021 at 20:51 (1,039 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I know I post a lot, my apologies for constant questions. I’m super interested in learning from you all and I tend to jump into things with both feet 😬. My other half would like me to get a new under counter unit installed to replace our existing machine that has been beaten to death. And the newer Kitchenaid is not anything special compared to others I’ve had in the past. Luckily the old Maytag has come in handy during this transition time, but I want to make sure I install a quality “modern” under counter machine. My vintage KA’s are a work in progress still before I can install one of those as I’m still in need of some parts or a donor machine.
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Post# 1118075 , Reply# 2   5/23/2021 at 20:54 (1,039 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York)   |   | |
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I just installed a Maytag for my daughter and she loves it! Got it at Lowes. See my thread: www.automaticwasher.org/c... |
Post# 1118079 , Reply# 3   5/23/2021 at 21:14 (1,039 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1118088 , Reply# 4   5/23/2021 at 22:21 (1,039 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1118093 , Reply# 5   5/23/2021 at 23:47 (1,039 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Here’s a local option. Looks like it was very well taken care of and minimally used. Comes with the original paperwork so that’s always a good sign for me. Not sure if this is the correct type you’re referring to Bob? Let me know what you think.
-Shannon |
Post# 1118094 , Reply# 6   5/23/2021 at 23:50 (1,039 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1118095 , Reply# 7   5/24/2021 at 00:02 (1,039 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I believe I’ve also seen these with more buttons/ cycle options, so I’m assuming this is a mid level model? Will all the whirlpool units I’m looking for have the silverware rack on the door like this does? If so that’s an obvious giveaway so I know what to look for. Any other visual giveaways I should look for?
-Shannon |
Post# 1118097 , Reply# 8   5/24/2021 at 00:17 (1,039 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Mid-level to slightly higher. Not too many more options on the panel by this time in the run. More like racking variations. Yes, in-door silverware basket is the clue. The Kenmore versions had the flatware basked in the bottom rack. These were very sensitive to whether it received a full charge of water for each fill. And with this being local, you may need to either clean out the inlet valve of sediment or replace it.
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Post# 1118100 , Reply# 10   5/24/2021 at 00:37 (1,039 days old) by Egress (Oregon)   |   | |
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is the point voyager platform good by any means? we've got a kitchenaid branded one thats kinda sputtering its last life out currently. |
Post# 1118103 , Reply# 12   5/24/2021 at 01:31 (1,039 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Cameron, Shannon said he was looking more for vintage so that he could save some money. I just got a new boss last Thursday and Saturday I have scrambled eggs and use the heavy cycle on that Skillet and I've never had a dishwasher since the pot scrubber 1200 take care of scrambled eggs like that. Otherwise I would have suggested Bosch to Shannon also if new would have been fine.
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Post# 1118114 , Reply# 13   5/24/2021 at 06:14 (1,039 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1118124 , Reply# 16   5/24/2021 at 08:09 (1,039 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I found a couple Bosch units. Both are asking $150. Not sure which is the better model. Black one looks older and says the handle or something comes off if you pull too hard when opening the dishwasher but otherwise it works fine. White one says it’s in perfect working order. Are these better than the Whirlpool or Kenmore options that were suggested?
-Shannon |
Post# 1118130 , Reply# 18   5/24/2021 at 09:14 (1,039 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Personally, I don't care for the silverware in the door. I think it's a pain to pull the rack in and out to put in silverware but then I don't stack the silverware up in the sink or on the counter and do it at once. Just a preference. Some here don't mind it.
Of the two Bosch pictured, the white one is newer looking. If you use a Rinse Aid and hi temp rinse you won't have much of an issue with the dishes getting dry. But again that depends on how you run the dishwasher. I also would prefer the Bosch because it's quieter. This is one of those questions where you might get as many opinions as you get responses. It really depends on your own habits, your budget and how much you care about hearing the dishwasher run. I am on my third Bosch (in as many houses) and have never had an issue with dishes getting dry but I always use Rinse Aid and a hi temp rinse. I would think given you have infants in the house you may want a machine with a Sanitary rinse cycle and that would give you the hi temp rinse.
As far as the Frigidaire is concerned, I have a bad taste because of the all issues they have had for years. Maybe the newer ones are better but I don't think I would buy one. |
Post# 1118154 , Reply# 20   5/24/2021 at 12:02 (1,039 days old) by JohnBee (USA, NY)   |   | |
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I will sell my Miele in July if you're interested.
Great Machine. Replaced a noisy whirlpool. It cleans everything in normal. And I'm not the prewash or soak guy.
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Post# 1118169 , Reply# 22   5/24/2021 at 14:09 (1,039 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1118182 , Reply# 24   5/24/2021 at 15:45 (1,039 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1118204 , Reply# 25   5/24/2021 at 18:47 (1,039 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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My 1990 portable Quiet wash had the in the door rack but it could load anywhere on the bottom rack with tight spacing. |
Post# 1118211 , Reply# 26   5/24/2021 at 20:20 (1,038 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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This looks like the top end model but not as clean and perfect as the first Whirlpool I posted about. Any big difference in washing between the two models?
-Shannon
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Post# 1118214 , Reply# 27   5/24/2021 at 20:27 (1,038 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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They were both power clean machines so no difference. You'll get an excellent wash with either. |
Post# 1118216 , Reply# 28   5/24/2021 at 20:43 (1,038 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1118321 , Reply# 29   5/25/2021 at 19:25 (1,038 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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This is my old Kenmore that I gave my brother. Still runs strong! I always had great washing results with this basic machine. It’s a quiet guard. I assume it is from the same Whirlpool power clean time period?
-Shannon
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Post# 1118322 , Reply# 30   5/25/2021 at 19:38 (1,038 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1118324 , Reply# 31   5/25/2021 at 19:43 (1,038 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1118325 , Reply# 32   5/25/2021 at 19:51 (1,038 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I pulled the trigger and purchased the Whirlpool Power Clean that I posted first in this thread. Like new condition with all the original paperwork. Used very little it would seem based on the condition. Agreed on $60 so I think that’s pretty good. Once the install is done I’ll work on getting my BobLoad certification!
-Shannon
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Post# 1118327 , Reply# 33   5/25/2021 at 20:05 (1,037 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1118339 , Reply# 34   5/25/2021 at 20:53 (1,037 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1118343 , Reply# 35   5/25/2021 at 21:31 (1,037 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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I concur with Bob. An excellent choice ! |
Post# 1118349 , Reply# 36   5/25/2021 at 22:07 (1,037 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I have the luxury of running a large 50+ unit apartment complex and I have a ton of storage space that is nice and dry. I think this is going to continue for a long time to come. I also collect vintage gas powered lawn equipment. I even have an 88’ Yugo GVX (I used to drive one back in high school). I bet no one has one of those 😂. I look forward to many more acquisitions and fun times with all of you here.
-Shannon |
Post# 1118356 , Reply# 37   5/26/2021 at 00:53 (1,037 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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One time, I put a cheese enchilada pan straight in the dishwasher without scrubbing, soaking, or rinsing. Boy did it come out completely clean! |
Post# 1118430 , Reply# 38   5/26/2021 at 21:37 (1,036 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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So I’m wondering why some power clean models have the lower spray arm with the tower attached and some do not? Is one design better than the other? I have included pictures of both designs. The unit I bought has the tower. Also I noticed a couple spray holes in the upper wash arm had thin crinkly plastic and light gunk stuck in the spray holes... Is this something that is coming apart in the unit or just something that came off dishes and got stuck in the spray arm? I am going to give it a thorough clean out tomorrow hopefully.
-Shannon |
Post# 1118432 , Reply# 39   5/26/2021 at 21:48 (1,036 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The tower in your first photo is attached to the lower rack, not to the spray arm. The difference is just a variation in how to get water to the upper spray arm ... either via a spray jet aimed into it from a nozzle on top of the pump, or via a feed tube that runs up the back of the tub which avoids need for the tower in middle of the lower rack to prevent the user from loading something that would block the spray jet. |
Post# 1118433 , Reply# 40   5/26/2021 at 22:13 (1,036 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1118450 , Reply# 42   5/27/2021 at 07:18 (1,036 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The center tower system has less problems, but the rear direct-feed works about as well.
The little bits of plastic you found in the WA nozzles was careless loading that allowed plastic trash to get into the DW. This is a major problem for some users, it seems that we see it most often in Maytag standard tub DWs, I guess because their arms have such small holes to catch the plastic bits.
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Post# 1118455 , Reply# 43   5/27/2021 at 08:38 (1,036 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Since these are technically vintage DW’s being over 20 years old, I would assume there are certain common areas of wear and tear that I should check out. Obviously as you have all stated, these are pretty rugged machines, but I want to go over everything with a fine tooth comb before the final installation. What should I check/clean specifically. I want to get top performance from this DW when it gets the first load.
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Post# 1118474 , Reply# 45   5/27/2021 at 11:13 (1,036 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1118527 , Reply# 48   5/27/2021 at 23:05 (1,035 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Got it put in tonight. Seems to be working great so far, it smelled pretty musty from sitting these past few months, so I ran a load of finish dishwasher cleaner through it and that seems to have freshened it up. How do I go about touching up the racks? They are in good shape but a couple spots have wear that would be good to cover up before rust starts. I found an extra machine locally as well for $20 that I’ll keep around for parts if that’s necessary in the future as well. Thanks for the suggestions everyone 😀
-Shannon
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Post# 1118531 , Reply# 49   5/27/2021 at 23:23 (1,035 days old) by Egress (Oregon)   |   | |
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lookin like she's ready for a load of the dirtiest dishes you can amass! |
Post# 1136050 , Reply# 52   12/12/2021 at 23:27 (836 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 1136123 , Reply# 53   12/13/2021 at 17:34 (836 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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through the 90s I lived several places and they all had different models of these. Most of them were Kenmore brand's made by Whirlpool...I never once had an issue with any of them. If they still made these, if something happened to my dishwasher, this is the first thing I would buy...
But ... I've gotten used to quieter dishwashers and tall tub.....I'm sure the noise would be shocking. I also remember plastics in the top would always turn over and be filled with water because these are so powerful. |
Post# 1136431 , Reply# 54   12/17/2021 at 07:14 (832 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)   |   | |
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