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Thread Number: 87336
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
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Post# 1119044 , Reply# 1 6/2/2021 at 12:49 (1,056 days old) by DADoES  (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1119052 , Reply# 2 6/2/2021 at 13:42 (1,056 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1119071 , Reply# 4 6/2/2021 at 16:49 (1,056 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Melvin, Mustee is the manufacturer of those tubs and they are not that expensive. I bought mine at a plumbing supply house locally. It is a model 94. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Tomturbomatic's LINK | ||
| Post# 1119075 , Reply# 5 6/2/2021 at 17:18 (1,056 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
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| Post# 1119077 , Reply# 6 6/2/2021 at 17:24 (1,056 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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| Post# 1119079 , Reply# 7 6/2/2021 at 17:52 (1,056 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Post# 1119083 , Reply# 8 6/2/2021 at 18:59 (1,056 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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I still have a ‘washday”, in fact today was “washday” and I typically do 3 loads, 1 load of whites, and 2 loads of colors. Takes me approx 3 hours to wash and dry all three loads. Using the dryer for successive loads is supposed to be more energy efficient as its already heated up. On Saturday I change the bed and wash the sheets.
My Mom had a ‘62 MOL Whirlpool with a suds saver in the kitchen and a laundry sink inclosed in a white enameled metal cabinet much like the one in the POD next to it. When she later traded the Whirlpool for an Maytag Model E in ‘69 we used the laundry sink for rinsing. Mom called this sink the “slop sink” and used it to soak large pans like the roaster after roasting a turkey. Eddie | ||
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Post# 1119090 , Reply# 9 6/2/2021 at 19:39 (1,056 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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We've had this discussion before off and one...
Suds saving or whatever you want to call them systems were Whirlpool's and others way of getting at the housewife who for various reasons cling to semi-automatic (wringer) washers.
Some of those reasons were practical, not every home had an unlimited supply of hot water, and or even just plain water. Thus idea of reusing water appealed to some who did laundry so they clung to wringer washers. Suds saving devices allowed those housewives or whoever to step up into a fully automatic washer, but still have benefits of water (and detergent) savings. Various consumer testing or other groups were often less impressed. They pointed out drawbacks such as saved water normally had cooled too much from hot to be of any use. Then you had those who harped on the same "ick" factor that they didn't like about wringer washers or any other semi-automatic where wash water was used for more than one load. | ||
| Post# 1119097 , Reply# 10 6/2/2021 at 19:57 (1,056 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
 I think a suds save is not an hassle or frustrating to use at all. And at best you can reuse water no more than three times any way. You can do a load of whites and at best a load of datks afterward as you will have warm water by then. I still see lots doing 2 consequent washes. Whites and darks. No more laundry day though. With the wringer washer laundry day was unavoidable as it was quite some job to pull it out plug fill empty flush plus the thing laying around every day in the kitchen was a no. Also there was the matter with smaller water heaters back then not allowing to replace water at every load. It is just that today people rarely do laundry on a given day but do It when basket has enough for a load. That is for many reasons. Said that, only some models had this feature anyway and was a plus and inherited habit-request from the day of wringer washers. We could see how the feauture disappeared on all the models sold during the following decades. From any makers. I do not see how the w/d combinations have really anything to do with it. I think It got to do with habits changing and role of women changing. Women having jobs other than housekeeping, homes being more practical and needing to be kept tidy and possibly without mountains of laundry accumulating.
There was a nice advertising kind of documentary from whirlpool that showed how for them It had not been so eaay at first. The first suds return mechanisms as they were implementing them would not work like they thought they would.
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| Post# 1119098 , Reply# 11 6/2/2021 at 20:05 (1,056 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1119101 , Reply# 12 6/2/2021 at 20:20 (1,056 days old) by Agiflow () | ||
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Mother takes a holiday is a laundry classic in these parts. | ||
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Post# 1119103 , Reply# 13 6/2/2021 at 20:26 (1,056 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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My grandmother had a 1950-ish Whirlpool with the suds saver and a double set-tub so it worked beautifully...so much so that she special-ordered a Maytag in the late 70s. She'd always add the small scoop of Tide with the second load and a dose of LaFrance. I think the order was whites first, then colors.
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Post# 1119131 , Reply# 14 6/3/2021 at 04:42 (1,056 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio) |
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Keep in mind | ||
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Post# 1119143 , Reply# 16 6/3/2021 at 08:44 (1,056 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1119164 , Reply# 18 6/3/2021 at 14:08 (1,055 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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re: second electric meter for water heating--I see those in basements around here and am fascinated by them--Detroit Edison was, I guess, advocating those in the 40s and 50s. I saw one a couple years ago that apparently was switchable for peak/offpeak use (top/bottom element) with a note that peak use was $$$. Would be interested to see whether they've all been decommissioned...have tried to look them up on Google to see how they were handled in the advertising.
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Post# 1119206 , Reply# 22 6/3/2021 at 21:10 (1,055 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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That sounds like the Green Acres electrical situation which was so believable for someone with as much money as Oliver was supposed to have had while living in that dump. Could your father not put in gas appliances if he was worried about the amount of electricity the household used? | ||
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Post# 1119208 , Reply# 23 6/3/2021 at 21:21 (1,055 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Am no expert, but believe oil water heaters run hotter (due to nature of fuel), and thus have shorter lifespan than gas or electric. The intense heat does a number on units, but it varied by model then and now. Some last long as gas or electric tank units, others not so much.
It varies by type of oil, but the lower grades are pretty much like bunker fuel, and thus nasty to burn. Creates lots of soot and other by products that cause unit to require more maintenance than cleaner burning gas or electric. If you don't do the maintenance unit will have shorter life span and or operate with lower efficiency. Many homes using oil for heating (steam or hot water) just used either a side arm or coil boiler for unlimited "tankless" hot water for "free". | ||
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Post# 1119277 , Reply# 25 6/4/2021 at 13:49 (1,054 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I just called Mustee and the tub is no longer manufactured. I did see a tub in a cabinet at Costco last year. Maybe we can try to find something like that. As I remember it was wider than the Mustee. | ||
| Post# 1119285 , Reply# 26 6/4/2021 at 15:56 (1,054 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas) | ||
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Wow Tom thanks for your time in checking with the company. I haven’t had a chance to go by the local plumbing supply yet but I know last time I really dug into it on the internet all avenues I found showed NLA. Suds savers never were common around these parts so neither are the sinks. I found a vintage one on market place a while back but the seller wouldn’t ship it.
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| Post# 1119291 , Reply# 27 6/4/2021 at 17:12 (1,054 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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One time I almost got a Maytag A207S suds saver washer but literally sold within a hour of it being posted and if I did end up with it, it would be my very first suds saver washer but I’d only would save the water from lightly soiled laundry and wouldn’t bother with saving water from heavily soiled laundry but sadly someone bought it before I did.
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Post# 1119303 , Reply# 28 6/4/2021 at 19:06 (1,054 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Problem with using indirect or direct hot water off a boiler is you have to keep that thing on all year long. You can switch controls to "summer" which will lower water temp inside boiler so it won't heat building, but things must still be high enough to generate hot water.
Tree huggers and others have such arrangements in their cross hairs. Either by zoning or other local ordinances (largely aimed at capping emissions and or otherwise making buildings more energy efficient/green), or just simply forcing certain types of heating over others. For ages indirect or direct hot water heating off a boiler was considered state of the art. You got "free" hot water and there wasn't problem with heat losses due to storing water in a tank. Powers that be in certain areas would much rather see more separate instant water heating systems independent of boiler, or more energy efficient systems for getting hot water such as heat pumps, solar and so forth. Ironically at least when it came to those old heavy high density cast iron or even steel boilers they actually had longer life if left heating all year long. Shutting them down over warmer times of year lead to all sorts of issues including faster rusting/rotting out of interior components. There are boilers installed sixty to nearly one hundred years ago that still are chugging along. No, they aren't exactly efficient compared to modern standards, but many are at 85% which isn't too shabby. | ||
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Post# 1119307 , Reply# 29 6/4/2021 at 20:16 (1,054 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1119308 , Reply# 30 6/4/2021 at 20:31 (1,054 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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With more and more homes going with standpipe drain connections for washing machines, tubs of all sorts have simply become surplus to requirements.
Where once concrete, soap stone, enamel on steel, or other tubs were standard for laundry areas, they've all but vanished. Much of this also likely has to do with washing machines being moved out of basements or dedicated rooms and into kitchens or other areas of homes. Recall growing up women who had their washing machines in kitchen usually also had a double sink. This way washer could drain into one side but they still had use of other. | ||
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