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Thread Number: 87419
/ Tag: Wringer Washers
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Post# 1119721 , Reply# 1 6/9/2021 at 05:25 (1,051 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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 It washes a small load well [ looks like 2 or 3 pounds ]
How many hours of life do you want this to run ? going for 12 years does not mean much ? as very few users would ever use a Manuel washer like this much except in a mobile home etc and for occasional use when they are waiting for repair parts for their regular washer maybe.
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Post# 1119726 , Reply# 2 6/9/2021 at 06:19 (1,051 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I don't believe this forum is private for members only. I was able to view it without being logged in. This post was last edited 06/09/2021 at 07:10 | ||
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Post# 1119728 , Reply# 3 6/9/2021 at 06:50 (1,051 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 1119730 , Reply# 4 6/9/2021 at 08:18 (1,051 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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I don’t really think that this counts as an opinion But I am very much excited for this to be released, it could possibly do with a larger/taller agitator with bigger fins and a dimensionally square tub So that way it would probably fit neater in small spaces, compared to a round tub | ||
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Post# 1119752 , Reply# 5 6/9/2021 at 11:41 (1,051 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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A bigger model (TOL) will come later. This is the budget version, 12lb capacity. | ||
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Post# 1119803 , Reply# 7 6/9/2021 at 17:03 (1,051 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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12 Pound Capacity ? | ||
| Post# 1119816 , Reply# 8 6/9/2021 at 18:59 (1,050 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
That's cool | ||
| Post# 1119819 , Reply# 9 6/9/2021 at 19:27 (1,050 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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The trailer park has come a long way.Most modern ones have their own laundry rooms for full sized equipment. | ||
| Post# 1119835 , Reply# 10 6/9/2021 at 21:34 (1,050 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 1119919 , Reply# 12 6/10/2021 at 21:29 (1,049 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1119920 , Reply# 13 6/10/2021 at 21:31 (1,049 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1119923 , Reply# 14 6/10/2021 at 21:45 (1,049 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Dan, see Point #2 on the OP. | ||
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Post# 1119929 , Reply# 15 6/10/2021 at 22:23 (1,049 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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LOL... If you see the number of emails I receive EVERY DAY from people asking me to make a washer with a wringer... Even I can't believe that in 2021 so many people still prefer wringers instead of centrifugal force. My answer to them is... Sorry but we'll NEVER have a washer with a wringer. That's a liability so huge that not even our insurance policy wouldn't save our ass. | ||
| Post# 1119933 , Reply# 16 6/10/2021 at 22:51 (1,049 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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I completely understand the wringer issue and its liability, especially in this day and age. However, there needs to be viable way to safely extract water to gain larger recognition. Not everbody will read between the lines and either purchase a spin drier or a separate hand operated wringer.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/281268125274QUE... | ||
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Post# 1119938 , Reply# 17 6/10/2021 at 23:13 (1,049 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Well, actually.... our spin dryers are a giant success. They sell much more than the washers. With the new models (total 9) that are being worked on, we will have plenty of innovation coming soon in the washer field. We have thousands of customers that have full size washers and buy our spin dryers to increase the drying efficiency. They can cut a lot from the drying time in a tumble dryer or air drying (line or rack). Our Ninja, with its 3200 RPM is a huge success. | ||
| Post# 1119942 , Reply# 18 6/10/2021 at 23:37 (1,049 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Well... | ||
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Post# 1119950 , Reply# 19 6/11/2021 at 04:50 (1,049 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1119964 , Reply# 20 6/11/2021 at 07:14 (1,049 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Compact Portable Washer Hi Thomas, I did not say anything about SQ or compare this washer in any way to any SQ washer.
This is a compact agitation only machine it does not compare to any Automatic Washer any where in the world.
I believe that this is a good product that will make many peoples lives easier in the US and all over the world.
My Point is do not misrepresent your products, if you say it can wash 12 pounds of clothing don't show us a video with a 3 pound load that does not even appear to have one bath towel in it.
If it can wash 10 pounds of towels, fine show us that video,
I guess I can understand why your phone rings off the hook all day, LOL
John L. | ||
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Post# 1119971 , Reply# 21 6/11/2021 at 08:32 (1,049 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I like that washing action | ||
| Post# 1120002 , Reply# 23 6/11/2021 at 16:57 (1,049 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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I like this design...
And I know that if or when my vintage Maytags can't keep working anymore, I will be able to buy a new, modern washing machine with the washing agitator action that I prefer. And I have some family members that feel the same way about the agitator washing action too. This is really exciting. Especially for someone like me who is mechanically challenged, when it comes to fixing things!
Thank you Thomas, you've got me cheering for you on this side of the computer! WOOOOO HOOOOOO!!! 🥰 👏🏻✌ | ||
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Post# 1120004 , Reply# 24 6/11/2021 at 17:26 (1,049 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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@Thomasortega I own one of your laundry alternative mini spin dryers, whenever I use it, it works wonderfully, when this machine goes to market I would absolutely love to buy one | ||
| Post# 1120015 , Reply# 25 6/11/2021 at 20:10 (1,048 days old) by felix (São Paulo - Brazil) | ||
cool! | ||
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Post# 1120023 , Reply# 26 6/11/2021 at 23:39 (1,048 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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@felix This washer was designed by me in a joint venture with Wanke. A somewhat similar version, but with different specs is also being released in Brazil named "Sally". | ||
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Post# 1120040 , Reply# 27 6/12/2021 at 08:41 (1,048 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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 How does the motor reverse direction? Timer driven drum cycling contacts or triac electronics? Have you ever considered a transmission, just for the agitation? Is this machine auto fill and/or auto drain?
In so far I really like what I'm seeing. I still think a front load version of a no-spin automatic is a better idea, but please do not take anything I'm saying to heart as you've got a really good design in motion already.
With that said I like what I'm seeing
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Post# 1120051 , Reply# 28 6/12/2021 at 12:10 (1,048 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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It's a triac. Adding a transmission would make it too heavy for FedEx shipping. | ||
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Post# 1120052 , Reply# 29 6/12/2021 at 12:15 (1,048 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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It already reached the market in Brazil (with a weaker motor because of local limitations) People seem to be enjoying it. As I mentioned. This model is intentionally simple. I was able to make it a little better here because DOE isn't as tough as INMETRO regarding power consumption (they're a pain with water consumption while in Brasil water is almost irrelevant but they're a pain with electricity) The US version was, originally, 150W more powerful and I just added other 50W. | ||
| Post# 1120079 , Reply# 30 6/12/2021 at 16:57 (1,048 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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Thomas until recently Danby had an portable automatic with an agitator that many seemed to like. There are some videos of it. I know it's more like an agipeller design but how about something like that ? | ||
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Post# 1120107 , Reply# 31 6/12/2021 at 21:33 (1,047 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) |
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Thomas, did you see this post from Tom?
>> I don't believe this forum is private for members only. >> I was able to view it without being logged in. I can confirm that this thread is world-visible without being logged in. It has also been indexed already, so people will find their way here from Google searches.
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Post# 1120109 , Reply# 32 6/12/2021 at 21:59 (1,047 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Triac I guess that is better than rotating contacts. Personally I do not like electronics, but I assume you've weighed the pros and cons and cost of each.
Is it possible to post the single lines and parts diagrams to these machines or is that considered confidential?
Again, I highly respect what you are doing. You are a hero. | ||
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Post# 1120116 , Reply# 34 6/13/2021 at 00:01 (1,047 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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@agiflow Yes, I remember the Danby. It's not out of question, but considering the expressive number of consumers that contacted me.over the last four years asking for "long and slow strokes" made me decide I had to make them happy first. Also, as mentioned before, the platform is used in two different markets and it was developed right in the worst days of the pandemic and we had to be fast. One solution that worked was reusing some components from other platforms that already existed. | ||
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Post# 1120120 , Reply# 35 6/13/2021 at 01:59 (1,047 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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"I'm Just Doing My Job" Face Palm. :) History has shown that not to be an excuse, nor a valid defense under any condition good or bad.
With that said, you still are a hero as not many actually care about their job let alone have made an attempt to produce a legitimate no frills washing machine. Good washers are rare, existing in a sea of either poor performance, short lives, or both.
Many consumer hearts yearn for what once existed and you are the one making a beautiful dream come true. I think respect toward you has been earned.
Question- are two drum timers expensive? I remember some makes of EU machines which had a timer where one set of contacts was cycled in seconds to achieve tumble while a second set in minutes to achieve the cycle- all in the same unit. | ||
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Post# 1120441 , Reply# 37 6/16/2021 at 11:26 (1,044 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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You're absolutely right. It adds weight to shipping (increase cost)and also makes the production cost skyrocket. The first challenge is keeping it affordable for low.income customers, also, we have the competition. Here at AWO we all know value, but the average consumer cares only about the price on a tag. Many times, $1 is the factor that make them go from one of our models (that have the standard 3 year warranty) to a Chinese crap sold on ebay that comes with a 90 day warranty. | ||
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