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Kitchen Aid Hobart KDS-20 for parts in NY
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Post# 1120356   6/15/2021 at 12:34 (1,045 days old) by brt (NY)        

Located in Nassau County, NY

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Post# 1120494 , Reply# 1   6/16/2021 at 20:15 (1,043 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Why is it being parted out ?

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That rust hole is simple to fix and the machine may run 10 more years.

 

John L.


Post# 1120555 , Reply# 2   6/17/2021 at 10:49 (1,043 days old) by brt (NY)        

It looks like the "pump" stopped working. It is making noise but not filling with water could be a simple fix.

Post# 1120561 , Reply# 3   6/17/2021 at 11:28 (1,043 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Greetings, Bart.  The pump mechanism does not fill it with water.  The machine's inlet valve opens when the timer calls for a fill.  Water flows in via plumbing pressure from the city mains or private water well, whichever you have supplying water to your house.  Fills are timed, probably 2 minutes more or less.

The pump functions separately to circulate/spray the water that has filled in, or drains it out at the appropriate times after the various wash and rinse periods.

No fill is a problem with the inlet valve not functioning, not a problem with the pump.  The inlet valve may have gone bad or there's a problem with a wire on/to it.  Or a problem with the timer.  Or a problem with the overfill float but that's less likely.

Has there been any leaking from the rust spot in your 4th and 5th photos when the machine was working?


Post# 1120564 , Reply# 4   6/17/2021 at 11:37 (1,043 days old) by brt (NY)        

Hi Glenn,

Yes, there was a very small leak from the bottom of the rust spot when machine was working. I took the sprayer assembly out to take a look at the pin hole rust spot and after assembling it back, the machine no longer fills with water.

Thank you for helping diagnose this issue but I posted this here to see if anyone is interested in this dishwasher.


Post# 1120626 , Reply# 5   6/17/2021 at 21:26 (1,042 days old) by Brt (NY)        

I tested again and it does fill with water. I had it on “dry” cycle. The only issue is the pinhole leak in the bottom of the tube.

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Post# 1123404 , Reply# 6   7/16/2021 at 08:16 (1,014 days old) by brt (NY)        

bumping in case anyone in NY are is interested

Post# 1124159 , Reply# 7   7/26/2021 at 12:12 (1,004 days old) by HobartHero (New York)        
I have it!

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Thank you to the owner for reaching out to me. The machine is in flawless condition other than the tiny rust hole at the base of the machine, I can only assume there was some sort of manufacture defect or chip in the enamel that left part of the metal exposed near the pump. What would be the most optimal way to repair this? RTV sealant would be simple but I don’t know if that would work as well as other options. Let me know how this is normally rectified. I may also have another machine with a good tub that I don’t mind swapping parts from this into.
-Shannon


Post# 1124161 , Reply# 8   7/26/2021 at 12:16 (1,004 days old) by HobartHero (New York)        
I have a KDC-20

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So after checking through the machines I have already, I also have a KDC 20 that is in OK condition but nothing special, and it has a perfect tub. That may be the perfect option to get the KDS 20 back into perfect condition.
-Shannon


Post# 1124189 , Reply# 9   7/26/2021 at 20:57 (1,003 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Fixing A Small Hole In A KA DW

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This can be permanently patched in less than ten minutes with something like 3M Marine Sealent avibible in squeeze tubes, this stuff will patch holes in boats that are in water constantly.

 

John 


Post# 1124197 , Reply# 10   7/26/2021 at 22:25 (1,003 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
DO NOT part out this DW!

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As John has said twice this is an easy fix and the machine may run for many more years. It will also give you better performance than 99% of what is made today and get it done in 1/3 the time.
WK78


Post# 1124231 , Reply# 11   7/27/2021 at 07:05 (1,003 days old) by HobartHero (New York)        
Tub swap

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I was simply contemplating the idea of taking a tub that has no rust issues and putting all of the KDS parts onto that tub. It wouldn’t be a part out per se as much as it would be A tub replacement. But I agree that fixing the existing tub hole would be a much simpler option.
-Shannon



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