Thread Number: 87700
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Costco Kirkland powdered detergent |
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Post# 1122652   7/8/2021 at 03:24 (994 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)   |   | |
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Hey, What’s everybody’s opinion about the Costco powder detergent? |
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Post# 1122655 , Reply# 1   7/8/2021 at 04:33 (994 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1122656 , Reply# 2   7/8/2021 at 05:29 (994 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1122657 , Reply# 3   7/8/2021 at 05:46 (994 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)   |   | |
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As the Costco one that I brought weighs the same but it only has 200 washes that means they must’ve previously doubled The dosage, somewhere in between February and now |
Post# 1122658 , Reply# 4   7/8/2021 at 06:07 (994 days old) by Aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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I conclude with Austin. Used 3 lots over the past decade and none have been anywhere near the quality or performance of any decent UK or European detergent. Too foamy and leaves fabrics feeling harsh. It’s a pain to rinse out too.
I wouldn’t waste your money. If you want to try something different then maybe check out what your local British import shop has. I’ve known Sainsbury’s Bio powder make it’s way over there into import shops. With five enzymes and 15-30 % bleaching agents it’s one of the top 2 best detergents we have here in the UK. Persil and Ariel have lost their way ( which says a lot about Kirkland if both major uk brands are still better than it despite being crap themselves) and now Formil Bio and Sainsbury’s Bio are the only ones I trust with whites and soiled washing. The Sainsbury’s Bio smells great too. Interestingly I’ve had chance to use a few Australian detergents and like American detergents they’re quite lacking. It leaves me to only conclude that there’s a huge difference in expectations and standards compared to us in Europe. |
Post# 1122662 , Reply# 5   7/8/2021 at 07:30 (994 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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As review in video makes clear, Kirkland powder is really nothing more than standard "commercial" type laundry detergent. Inexpensive, no frills and will get the job done in theory.
Similar powder detergents Sun, Arm and Hammer or "commercial" products like Hurricane and others that come in huge tubs or boxes are all same. Largely surfactants, washing soda, OBA, fragrance, and maybe some other bits. Heavy on washing soda and fillers these products don't make much suds because good part of cleaning action comes from chemical (all that washing soda or other alkaline substances). You'd best take a tip from commercial laundries and use some sort of sour in final rinse or a sour/softener unless want hard scratchy things. Of course industrial laundries have a host of additives they can use in conjunction with basic detergents. Emulsifiers, breaks, enzymes, oxygen or chlorine bleach.... Telling thing is people use this Kirkland powder detergent for cleaning floors and walls. That's saying something.... |
Post# 1122666 , Reply# 6   7/8/2021 at 07:41 (994 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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First bucket was "OK". Not really impressed but, for the price, it was somewhat acceptable. About 1 year later, second and last bucket: WTF they did to it? I'm still confused. I don't know if it's dreadful, terrible, awful or a disaster. Used it as a "play" detergent until I could finally finish that thing and I can say that at least the bucket is awesome as a dryer lint wastebasket. |
Post# 1122671 , Reply# 7   7/8/2021 at 07:57 (994 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Unless things have changed Huish makes private label laundry detergents for Coscto/Kirkland. That company itself was bought by venture capital group back in 2014, and now things are under "Sun Products" brand
archive.sltrib.com/story.phpQUES... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Produc... www.deseret.com/2008/7/31... |
Post# 1122680 , Reply# 8   7/8/2021 at 10:02 (994 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 1122686 , Reply# 9   7/8/2021 at 10:48 (994 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1122711 , Reply# 10   7/8/2021 at 15:13 (994 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Recently there was a story on line about which manufacturers are behind which Kirkland products. I don't know how much truth there was to any of it (such as Kirkland vodka being produced by Grey Goose), but it stated that their liquid laundry detergent was made by Persil. There was no mention of who makes their powder as I recall, but since powdered Persil isn't on the shelves around here anyway, I presume it's from another manufacturer. |
Post# 1122729 , Reply# 12   7/8/2021 at 18:01 (994 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)   |   | |
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I have use that type before it works really well although I do like to change up my detergent preferably every couple of loads, now considering everyone’s review on it It seems like no one is happy with it |
Post# 1122732 , Reply# 13   7/8/2021 at 19:09 (994 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1122749 , Reply# 14   7/9/2021 at 00:54 (993 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Huish was bought by Sun who was in turn gobbled up by Unilever. Henkel bought Dial/Unilever laundry (and maybe other products) in North America, so it would seem same company that makes Persil for USA also makes Kirkland Signature detergent.
That being said again Henkel is behind Sun detergent and there is a world of difference between that powder and Persil's USA (now discontinued) perl detergent. moneywise.com/life/lifestyle/the... hip2save.com/tips/brands-behind-... www.mabelandmoxie.com/The... www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/spen... And so it goes.. Costco/Kirkland is like Sears/Kenmore; neither actually made anything, but sourced their various merchandise from others and slapped their brand name on. Sears was (then) big enough to throw their weight around and demand certain changes for "Kenmore" brand (also Maid Of Honor, Coldspot and other brands owed by Sears). |
Post# 1122758 , Reply# 16   7/9/2021 at 04:33 (993 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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If Henkel owns the parent company they might have improved the formula by now like they did for All, Purex and even Sun.
All of these are still cheap inferior detergent powders with lots of alkali but any of them have been improved considerably reading their "smartlabels". Smallish amounts of oxy bleach, nonionic surfactants and the addition of silicates to protect FL washer`s alluminum spiders seems to be a given standard now. Big improvement in my opinion. Purex powder even got a non precipitating water softener added. Don`t know what Kirkland powder used to be in the past but it wasn`t too difficult to find an ingredients list for the current formulation. It seems to be very low end, pretty much in line with current Sun powder maybe worse and it has no oxy bleach. The other Kirkland products seem to be rather TOL. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mrboilwash's LINK |
Post# 1122769 , Reply# 18   7/9/2021 at 09:34 (993 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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This type of "commercial" detergents might work ok in soft water areas where incrustation from hard water minerals is not a huge problem.
It might also work well in markets with rather low expectations where low costs and quick results are more important than good fabric care. For example in markets where sturdy fabrics like white bed linens and towels are washed in rather low temperatures and bleach is added separately. As has been pointed out before a sour rinse is a must with these and I wouldn`t recommend to expose any delicate expensive clothing to those detergents because the high pH (11 according to SDS) would be very hard on colors, fabrics and it would ruin elastics in no time. This post was last edited 07/09/2021 at 10:09 |
Post# 1122835 , Reply# 19   7/10/2021 at 03:26 (992 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Well, I found my 28 lb bucket of Costco "Institutional Laundry Detergent" in the workshop. It looks like I maybe used it once. However the label says it's good for sopping up oil stains so that's where I'll be using it next.
There are NO ingredients listed on rectangular product bucket type container. I was able to find a PDF of the ingredients online, though. The product number is 119903. Click on link below for the ingredient listing. I was not able to find proportions on that PDF. However, the Material Safety Data Sheet does list the Sodium Carbonate at between 30% and 70%. Other ingredients listed in the link below include: Kirkland Signature Heavy Duty Laundry Detergent, #119903 CAS Number Ingredient (Chemical Name) Role (Function) 497-19-8 Sodium Carbonate pH regulating agent 7647-14-5 Sodium Chloride Viscosity modifier 149458-07-1 Fatty acids, C12-18, Me esters, sulfonated, sodium salts Surfactant 7732-18-5 Water Solvent 1344-09-8 Sodium Silicate Chelating agent 68989-22-0 Zeolites, NaA Chelating agent 68479-09-4 2-Propenoic acid, telomer with sodiumsulfite (1:1), sodium salt Opacifier 68131-39-5 Alcohols, C12-15, Ethoxylated Surfactant 9004-32-4 Cellulose Gum Antiredeposition agent, Viscosity modifier 16090-02-1 CI Fluorescent Brightner 71, 244, 250, or260 Brightener 5989-27-5 Limonene Fragrance Sorry about the formatting. It would take forever to format it here; you can see the formatted table of ingredients in the following link. CLICK HERE TO GO TO SudsMaster's LINK |
Post# 1122880 , Reply# 20   7/10/2021 at 17:56 (992 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)   |   | |
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Don’t worry about the formatting, it’s alright and thank you for linking me to the ingredients list |
Post# 1122897 , Reply# 21   7/10/2021 at 21:40 (991 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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The first and last time i tried it I ended up at the Doctors office getting a Kenalog shot for the worst contact dermatitis, That stuff broke me out from head to toe, |
Post# 1122899 , Reply# 22   7/10/2021 at 23:05 (991 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I cannot comment on Hans' bad experience, but if you look at the ingredient listing linked above, you'll see that the Kirkland institutional laundry detergent has far fewer chemical additives than many of the other products listed. Its only fragrance chemical is Limonene, which has been in use for ages and found to have low toxicity. The other ingredients are also relatively common.
In particular the scented products have a long list of fragrance additives. The high sodium carbonate component (30-70%) of the Kirkland institutional product would be enough to put me off it. Not for health reasons, but to prevent hard water precipitates in the washer. This post was last edited 07/10/2021 at 23:50 |
Post# 1122900 , Reply# 23   7/10/2021 at 23:07 (991 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1122933 , Reply# 24   7/11/2021 at 08:19 (991 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1123379 , Reply# 25   7/15/2021 at 22:06 (986 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I did find a use for the Kirkland Institutional Laundry Detergent the other day. I have a shredding machine that I use to process ivy trimmings about every year or so. The trimmings then go into the compost bins; it makes for great compost.
Anyway, I noticed the collection bag had sprung a hole, maybe an inch or two diameter. Too many shredings were getting through that hole. And the bad itself was filthy. I wanted to bring it in to sew up the hole on the Singer, but not in that condition. So I got a three gallon bucket, filled it with about 1.5 gallons water, added a scoop of the Kirkland, tossed in the collection bag, swirled it around with a stick, and let it sit a bit. The water turned jet black. I had to change the water for three or more rinses to get rid of the black (it's a white synthetic bag). Hung it on the line overnight, and sewed it up the next day. The black wash water and rinses went down the drain. Oh, and the collection bag still has stains... not gonna worry about that. It may have only a few years life left, at which point I'll need to replace it. |
Post# 1123503 , Reply# 26   7/17/2021 at 08:26 (985 days old) by Rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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I like Kirkland. It cleans well, rinses out easy and is good value. However, I also add either Clorox or Borax. Kirkland isn’t heavily perfumed. My clothes smell clean and fresh and they are not hard and scratchy. |
Post# 1123505 , Reply# 28   7/17/2021 at 08:47 (985 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)   |   | |
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Does it work better than the Coles/woollies/Aldi El cheapo detergent? |
Post# 1147617 , Reply# 32   4/28/2022 at 08:15 (700 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1147618 , Reply# 33   4/28/2022 at 08:18 (700 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1147635 , Reply# 34   4/28/2022 at 14:04 (700 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I did my monthly (approx) Costco trip this morning. In addition to chicken pot pies, picked up a bucket of Kirkland laundry powder. It will probably wind up sitting next to the still almost full bucket in the workshop. However I do have some concrete flooring back there that needs to be cleaned....
Starting to realize I got way too many toys. Might be time to start planning a downsize... |
Post# 1147636 , Reply# 35   4/28/2022 at 14:14 (700 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 1147655 , Reply# 36   4/28/2022 at 23:29 (699 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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