Thread Number: 87840
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
New Whirlpool washer line spotted |
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Post# 1124110   7/25/2021 at 17:14 (1,003 days old) by smurdle450 (California)   |   | |
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While scouring Google, I managed to find what appears to be Whirlpool's next iteration of their mid-range VMW. The capacity has been dropped by 0.1 Cu Ft, and the control panel has been quite significantly changed by the looks.
Unfortunately, the flat impeller that I am known to despise still remains. If anybody knows more, please feel free to chime in! CLICK HERE TO GO TO smurdle450's LINK |
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Post# 1124120 , Reply# 1   7/25/2021 at 19:28 (1,003 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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I noticed in the accompanying photos, there was a dryer model that matched with drop down door and one with a side swing door. I found the side-swing door dryer on Best Buy. WED5050LW. In the description it said the dryer matched washers WTW5010LW, WTW5015LW, and WTW5057. Maybe one of those two corresponding models will have the agitator.
This model appears to be the WP corresponding model to the Maytag WVW62000, introduced 10 months or so ago. Our Canadian member bought the corresponding matching Maytag dryer the WED6200. I like the new WP version of the dryer as it has side swing door and steam refresh. In fact, go look at Best Buy's web site and you can see all 3 of the above-mentioned models. Featuring removable agitators. |
Post# 1124125 , Reply# 2   7/25/2021 at 19:49 (1,003 days old) by smurdle450 (California)   |   | |
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My guess is that the 5015 will be the "agitator" model of the 5010, similar to how the 4850's "agitator" variant is the 4855.
As for the 5057, that will be the 4.7/4.8 Cu ft variant of the weird agitator/impeller hybrid model, which I have seen teased on Whirlpool's website See the link, and scroll toward the bottom to see the 5057 referenced. Also attached a screenshot. CLICK HERE TO GO TO smurdle450's LINK
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Post# 1124274 , Reply# 4   7/27/2021 at 15:58 (1,001 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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I wonder if they plan to do a remake of the Unitized Washer/Dryer stack. |
Post# 1124281 , Reply# 5   7/27/2021 at 19:33 (1,001 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1124285 , Reply# 6   7/27/2021 at 20:04 (1,001 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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What about the wash action? |
Post# 1124286 , Reply# 7   7/27/2021 at 20:06 (1,001 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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Wonder if they will offer anymore models with one piece porcelain tubs ? |
Post# 1124293 , Reply# 8   7/27/2021 at 21:09 (1,001 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1124294 , Reply# 9   7/27/2021 at 21:22 (1,001 days old) by HobartHero (New York)   |   | |
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I’ve never been impressed at all by any top load machine without an agitator. Usually it simply results in zero rollover which doesn’t effectively clean anything. If I need to wash a bulky item such as a comforter I would much rather do so in a front load machine at a laundromat rather than a TL machine without an agitator.
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Post# 1124350 , Reply# 10   7/28/2021 at 16:47 (1,000 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)   |   | |
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From the videos I've seen, the agitator clips onto the wash plate, moves along with it and does nothing. |
Post# 1124355 , Reply# 11   7/28/2021 at 17:56 (1,000 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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Thanks John, But I am wondering when they are going to refresh that line. It's pretty outdated looking at this point. And the 24" has only 1.6 cu ft. capacity compared to GE's 2. |
Post# 1124361 , Reply# 12   7/28/2021 at 21:17 (1,000 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1124367 , Reply# 13   7/29/2021 at 05:04 (1,000 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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Speaking of the GE "commercial" laundry I saw a GE commercial dryer. The top panel was as flimsy as could be. Nothing commercial about that line. Even the Maytag commercial is better built. |
Post# 1124376 , Reply# 14   7/29/2021 at 06:26 (999 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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about the GE commercial line. I hope they reintroduce the filter-flo line someday. |
Post# 1124377 , Reply# 15   7/29/2021 at 07:14 (999 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Regarding in-home testing: I would assume that they initially place new machine designs with local employees...this would be after lifecycle testing within the lab. I worked for a division of GE in 1989-1992 (during their transition away from FilterFlo washer design) and they were seeking employees where they could place the new (plastic) design washing machines for longer-term use. They had just had lots of success with the PermaTuf dishwasher design so had a lot of confidence in the new suspended washer desing.
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Post# 1124396 , Reply# 17   7/29/2021 at 14:23 (999 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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how whirlpool designed the short/fast stroke and others like GE and maytag followed suit? |
Post# 1124397 , Reply# 18   7/29/2021 at 14:26 (999 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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what other changes did you notice about the GE's when you were working on the suspended design? What about the motor and transmission? What about the pumps? |
Post# 1124402 , Reply# 19   7/29/2021 at 16:45 (999 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Whats the diffrence with this new whirlpool washer compared to this maytag washer?
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Post# 1124567 , Reply# 20   7/31/2021 at 14:22 (997 days old) by smurdle450 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 1124705 , Reply# 21   8/1/2021 at 20:50 (996 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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Admittedly they have a nice clean look to them Sort of Samsungish but they really need to overhaul that wash plate design or get better programming for what they do have. |
Post# 1124894 , Reply# 22   8/4/2021 at 11:30 (993 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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"really need to overhaul that wash plate design or get better programming"
It seems they already have. There are one or two short videos like the one in this link where it seems they've really ramped up the agitation strokes on the VMAX platform to compensate for the lower-profile impeller. There are three VMAX machines in our family now, a WP 8500, a Maytag 855, and another Maytag 765 agipeller, all with the BPM drive system, and NONE of them are ever as aggressive as this one with the redesigned control panel. If you notice this is on Regular-Normal which is even more of a stark difference. The past model VMAX machines move loads around just fine as long as they're loaded properly and given the proper cycle and soil level, but just take a little bit of time to notice that things ARE blooming and rolling, just not as much as the Oasis platform did. But with the kind of agitation in THIS video there should be much more noticeable rollover going forward. Now if only the past models could get firmware updates, even if you had to download the new programming to a flash drive and plug it in manually... |
Post# 1125038 , Reply# 24   8/5/2021 at 19:23 (992 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 1125043 , Reply# 26   8/5/2021 at 20:09 (992 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1125073 , Reply# 27   8/6/2021 at 00:37 (992 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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Post# 1125075 , Reply# 28   8/6/2021 at 01:10 (992 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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They all make noise to some degree.Has anyone seen a Samsung agitator washer live yet ? |
Post# 1125599 , Reply# 29   8/12/2021 at 06:14 (985 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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It's not just Whirlpool, but GE too. |
Post# 1125600 , Reply# 30   8/12/2021 at 06:23 (985 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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but GE too. They don't make them like they used to. They should've left well enough alone. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK |