Thread Number: 87840  /  Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
New Whirlpool washer line spotted
[Down to Last]

automaticwasher.org's exclusive eBay Watch:
scroll >>> for more items --- [As an eBay Partner, eBay may compensate automaticwasher.org if you make a purchase using any link to eBay on this page]
Post# 1124110   7/25/2021 at 17:14 (976 days old) by smurdle450 (California)        

smurdle450's profile picture
While scouring Google, I managed to find what appears to be Whirlpool's next iteration of their mid-range VMW. The capacity has been dropped by 0.1 Cu Ft, and the control panel has been quite significantly changed by the looks.

Unfortunately, the flat impeller that I am known to despise still remains.

If anybody knows more, please feel free to chime in!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO smurdle450's LINK


  Photos...       <              >      Photo 1 of 6         View Full Size



Post# 1124120 , Reply# 1   7/25/2021 at 19:28 (976 days old) by appnut (TX)        

appnut's profile picture
I noticed in the accompanying photos, there was a dryer model that matched with drop down door and one with a side swing door. I found the side-swing door dryer on Best Buy. WED5050LW. In the description it said the dryer matched washers WTW5010LW, WTW5015LW, and WTW5057. Maybe one of those two corresponding models will have the agitator.


This model appears to be the WP corresponding model to the Maytag WVW62000, introduced 10 months or so ago. Our Canadian member bought the corresponding matching Maytag dryer the WED6200. I like the new WP version of the dryer as it has side swing door and steam refresh.

In fact, go look at Best Buy's web site and you can see all 3 of the above-mentioned models. Featuring removable agitators.


Post# 1124125 , Reply# 2   7/25/2021 at 19:49 (976 days old) by smurdle450 (California)        
Other models' initial assumptions

smurdle450's profile picture
My guess is that the 5015 will be the "agitator" model of the 5010, similar to how the 4850's "agitator" variant is the 4855.


As for the 5057, that will be the 4.7/4.8 Cu ft variant of the weird agitator/impeller hybrid model, which I have seen teased on Whirlpool's website See the link, and scroll toward the bottom to see the 5057 referenced. Also attached a screenshot.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO smurdle450's LINK


  View Full Size
Post# 1124267 , Reply# 3   7/27/2021 at 14:07 (974 days old) by agiflow ()        

This is certainly not a progression but regression. Their DD line was simplified. Why couldn't they have left well enough alone ? AFAIK nobody asked for these types of machines but we are going to accept this garbage whether we want to not.This company is out of touch with the consumer.

Post# 1124274 , Reply# 4   7/27/2021 at 15:58 (974 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        

I wonder if they plan to do a remake of the Unitized Washer/Dryer stack.

Post# 1124281 , Reply# 5   7/27/2021 at 19:33 (974 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP Unitized Stack Washers and Dryers

combo52's profile picture

WP still makes gas and electric 27" Thin Twins and 24" electric models.

 

John L.


Post# 1124285 , Reply# 6   7/27/2021 at 20:04 (974 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
what else has changed?

What about the wash action?

Post# 1124286 , Reply# 7   7/27/2021 at 20:06 (974 days old) by agiflow ()        

Wonder if they will offer anymore models with one piece porcelain tubs ?

Post# 1124293 , Reply# 8   7/27/2021 at 21:09 (974 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

dadoes's profile picture
 
I've always been curious what kind of in-home research and testing appliance manufacturers do, if any, for new features and models, and where and how they choose the test areas.  I've never known any typical consumers / users involved with anything like that.


Post# 1124294 , Reply# 9   7/27/2021 at 21:22 (974 days old) by HobartHero (New York)        
Removable Agitator Benefits??

hobarthero's profile picture
I’ve never been impressed at all by any top load machine without an agitator. Usually it simply results in zero rollover which doesn’t effectively clean anything. If I need to wash a bulky item such as a comforter I would much rather do so in a front load machine at a laundromat rather than a TL machine without an agitator.
-Shannon


Post# 1124350 , Reply# 10   7/28/2021 at 16:47 (973 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)        

From the videos I've seen, the agitator clips onto the wash plate, moves along with it and does nothing.

Post# 1124355 , Reply# 11   7/28/2021 at 17:56 (973 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        

Thanks John,
But I am wondering when they are going to refresh that line. It's pretty outdated looking at this point. And the 24" has only 1.6 cu ft. capacity compared to GE's 2.


Post# 1124361 , Reply# 12   7/28/2021 at 21:17 (973 days old) by appnut (TX)        

appnut's profile picture
I kind of like the style, reminds me of a panel design Whirlpool had for some center-dial Kenmore models in the very early 1970s. I think there's even a POD. Similar to GE's current "commercial" laundry pair.

Post# 1124367 , Reply# 13   7/29/2021 at 05:04 (973 days old) by agiflow ()        

Speaking of the GE "commercial" laundry I saw a GE commercial dryer. The top panel was as flimsy as could be. Nothing commercial about that line. Even the Maytag commercial is better built.

Post# 1124376 , Reply# 14   7/29/2021 at 06:26 (973 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
I've been thinking

about the GE commercial line. I hope they reintroduce the filter-flo line someday.

Post# 1124377 , Reply# 15   7/29/2021 at 07:14 (973 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

jamiel's profile picture
Regarding in-home testing: I would assume that they initially place new machine designs with local employees...this would be after lifecycle testing within the lab. I worked for a division of GE in 1989-1992 (during their transition away from FilterFlo washer design) and they were seeking employees where they could place the new (plastic) design washing machines for longer-term use. They had just had lots of success with the PermaTuf dishwasher design so had a lot of confidence in the new suspended washer desing.

Post# 1124380 , Reply# 16   7/29/2021 at 09:47 (973 days old) by agiflow ()        

There is something to be said for the hanging suspension. Before I sold my Amana I couldn't feel the floor shake. Now with the Estate DD I could feel the vibrations in the floor and it is noticable. Still the DD was an overall better design than the vmw.

Post# 1124396 , Reply# 17   7/29/2021 at 14:23 (972 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
ever notice

how whirlpool designed the short/fast stroke and others like GE and maytag followed suit?

Post# 1124397 , Reply# 18   7/29/2021 at 14:26 (972 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
jamiel

what other changes did you notice about the GE's when you were working on the suspended design? What about the motor and transmission? What about the pumps?

Post# 1124402 , Reply# 19   7/29/2021 at 16:45 (972 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
what the diffrence with this new whirlpool compared to this?

pierreandreply4's profile picture
Whats the diffrence with this new whirlpool washer compared to this maytag washer?

  View Full Size
Post# 1124567 , Reply# 20   7/31/2021 at 14:22 (970 days old) by smurdle450 (California)        
Maytag vs WP

smurdle450's profile picture
I reckon the new whirlpools will not be much different to their current lineup in terms of how they work, it will most likely be appearance changes, and not much beyond.

The main omission in comparison to that Maytag will be the lack of a display.


Post# 1124705 , Reply# 21   8/1/2021 at 20:50 (969 days old) by agiflow ()        

Admittedly they have a nice clean look to them
Sort of Samsungish but they really need to overhaul that wash plate design or get better programming for what they do have.


Post# 1124894 , Reply# 22   8/4/2021 at 11:30 (966 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

murando531's profile picture
"really need to overhaul that wash plate design or get better programming"

It seems they already have. There are one or two short videos like the one in this link where it seems they've really ramped up the agitation strokes on the VMAX platform to compensate for the lower-profile impeller. There are three VMAX machines in our family now, a WP 8500, a Maytag 855, and another Maytag 765 agipeller, all with the BPM drive system, and NONE of them are ever as aggressive as this one with the redesigned control panel. If you notice this is on Regular-Normal which is even more of a stark difference.

The past model VMAX machines move loads around just fine as long as they're loaded properly and given the proper cycle and soil level, but just take a little bit of time to notice that things ARE blooming and rolling, just not as much as the Oasis platform did. But with the kind of agitation in THIS video there should be much more noticeable rollover going forward.

Now if only the past models could get firmware updates, even if you had to download the new programming to a flash drive and plug it in manually...






Post# 1124980 , Reply# 23   8/5/2021 at 09:57 (966 days old) by agiflow ()        

Why have a huge tub for the agitator models with those pathetic small vains at the bottom ? Why does everything have to change and for what purpose ? Are we all supposed to accept inferior performance for the lie of saving "mother earth"?

Why don't any of the Whirlpool employees on this site ever speak up ? Why does everything have to change ? For what purpose ? Admittedly the new Whirlpool machines are very stylish but wish they would stop messing with what always worked up until the end of the DD washers. Give us back real agitator washers Whirlpool with options the user can choose like water usage and adjustable times.

Where are the Whirlpool engineers on this site ? Please speak up!


Post# 1125038 , Reply# 24   8/5/2021 at 19:23 (965 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

littlegreeny's profile picture
I'm also curious if there are any Whirlpool folks on here?? I have to say WP/MT top load washers sure are loud compared to their Korean competitors.

Post# 1125039 , Reply# 25   8/5/2021 at 19:29 (965 days old) by agiflow ()        

Which machines are you talking about ? I had a WP front loader and it was quiet. If you mean quiet compared to Whirlpool's older machines that's because they used Heavy Duty 1/2 H.P. motors in the DD washers. A machine that makes some noise gives it character and makes it identifiable.

Post# 1125043 , Reply# 26   8/5/2021 at 20:09 (965 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
washer i posted reply #19

pierreandreply4's profile picture
when its on i know by the noise while it wash rinse and spin that everything is working well

Post# 1125073 , Reply# 27   8/6/2021 at 00:37 (965 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

littlegreeny's profile picture

Patrick, I was referring to their current top load washers only like the one in the video posted in reply #22.


Post# 1125075 , Reply# 28   8/6/2021 at 01:10 (965 days old) by agiflow ()        

They all make noise to some degree.Has anyone seen a Samsung agitator washer live yet ?

Post# 1125599 , Reply# 29   8/12/2021 at 06:14 (959 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Not just Whirlpool.

It's not just Whirlpool, but GE too.

Post# 1125600 , Reply# 30   8/12/2021 at 06:23 (959 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
It's not just whirlpool...

but GE too. They don't make them like they used to. They should've left well enough alone.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK


Post# 1129704 , Reply# 31   9/26/2021 at 23:34 (913 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
dumbed down temps

Who thinks that this washer will have dumbed down temps?


Forum Index:       Other Forums:                      



Comes to the Rescue!

The Discuss-o-Mat has stopped, buzzer is sounding!!!
If you would like to reply to this thread please log-in...

Discuss-O-MAT Log-In



New Members
Click Here To Sign Up.



                     


automaticwasher.org home
Discuss-o-Mat Forums
Vintage Brochures, Service and Owners Manuals
Fun Vintage Washer Ephemera
See It Wash!
Video Downloads
Audio Downloads
Picture of the Day
Patent of the Day
Photos of our Collections
The Old Aberdeen Farm
Vintage Service Manuals
Vintage washer/dryer/dishwasher to sell?
Technical/service questions?
Looking for Parts?
Website related questions?
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Policy
Our Privacy Policy