Thread Number: 87887
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Post# 1124583 , Reply# 1   7/31/2021 at 17:11 (997 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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i have this maytag set and it handles cat hair pretty well also here a vid i took of the washer in action with my phone
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Post# 1124584 , Reply# 2   7/31/2021 at 17:22 (997 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1124588 , Reply# 3   7/31/2021 at 17:33 (997 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 1124595 , Reply# 4   7/31/2021 at 18:53 (997 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Since you want a quiet washer, I wouldn’t bother with a Whirlpool VMW washer since they are noisy and I wouldn’t bother with a Speed Queen TR7 since it’s expensive and has piss poor washing and rinsing performance. I’d just would keep your KitchenAid set since it will outlast all newer machines made on the market and will wash and rinse better as well.
If you really want a quiet washer, get a early 70’s Lady Kenmore with the quiet pak since those quiet pak belt drive washers are very quiet in operation. |
Post# 1124609 , Reply# 6   7/31/2021 at 20:32 (997 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Parts are still available (last time I checked, anyway) to mechanically rebuild your KA to new condition ... or to fix whatever is currently wrong regards to the ratchety noise. I did three (a Kenmore and two Whirlpools) a few/couple years ago. The early 1970s Lady Kenmore recommended above cannot be done as such, parts are long NLA except among collectors who have stockpiled. Amana today is Whirlpool, as is Maytag. |
Post# 1124615 , Reply# 9   7/31/2021 at 22:07 (996 days old) by Egress (Oregon)   |   | |
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yes, the kitchenaid is a Direct drive. |
Post# 1124628 , Reply# 12   8/1/2021 at 00:29 (996 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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From what I've read, the "agitator dogs" are parts that are an easy DIY repair. If as Chris mentioned above, the noise is coming from those, you should for sure keep your machine and make the repair. I don't know what their real names are to research part number and price, but someone here is sure to have that info if needed.
If you're able to provide one, a video of your machine making the noise would be helpful. |
Post# 1124639 , Reply# 13   8/1/2021 at 08:46 (996 days old) by SueDenim (Lincoln, Nebraska)   |   | |
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Hello everyone, and good morning! I will work on the video later today, but here is the tag if that is at all useful. The two repairs I have had on it replaced a pump and the water intake connection.
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Post# 1124640 , Reply# 14   8/1/2021 at 09:18 (996 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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1998 model-year. Factory production 1998, Nov 30 - Dec 4. Be advised that videos cannot be uploaded directly into a post here like photos. They must be put on an online sharing service such as DailyMotion, Vimeo, YouTube, etc. Copy the URL for viewing the video and paste it into the "URL Link to Share" field when composing a reply. Majority of folks here use YouTube. The AW board software recognizes standard URLs to YouTube and embeds the video when pasted directly into the post (not necessary to use the link share field). You'll see the video in the reply preview if it's working. |
Post# 1124641 , Reply# 15   8/1/2021 at 09:37 (996 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Regards to agitator dogs, agitator cogs may be a more accurate term but agitator dogs has long been the common term. P/N 80040 is the four dogs. P/N 285811 is an agitator repair kit that includes the dogs and the cam, thrust washer, cap seal, and agitator bolt seal. Note that there are three repair kit choices depending on the design of the agitator ... short, medium, or long cam. Yours is medium. A simple test to check the dogs ... turn the spiral auger by hand. Counterclockwise the dogs should grab and also turn the agitator base/fins. Clockwise the dogs slip and the auger free-spins, the base fins don't turn. The dogs are broken if the auger free-spins both directions, doesn't grip and turn the base counterclockwise. It's normal for the auger to be a bit loose and wobbly. |
Post# 1124667 , Reply# 19   8/1/2021 at 16:42 (996 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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So the agitator dogs definitely need to be replaced as the top of the agitator is not working properly. That is not the noise I think you are complaining about though. It sounds like the suspension is making the other noise that you are hearing. There are a few possibilities but it sounds to me like one of the springs is making noise possibly due to sticky suspension pads. Other than being annoying it’s not really hurting anything.
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Post# 1124708 , Reply# 21   8/1/2021 at 20:53 (996 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1124714 , Reply# 22   8/1/2021 at 21:32 (995 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The part-kit you linked on Amazon is an aftermarket substitution, not a Whirlpool FSP (Factory Specification Parts) item ... it may be OK or the quality may be a bit lacking. Just the dogs may be sufficient instead of the full repair kit ... but depends on the condition of the other parts. The thrust washer may be worn down by now. I may be overly cautious but I advise replacing the seal on the agitator bolt, an air-tight seal is called-for there to form an air bubble under the agitator for warding water away from the drive shaft seals. The large o-ring on the cap inside the agitator may break when pulling the cap out. |
Post# 1125178 , Reply# 24   8/6/2021 at 19:04 (991 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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A full rebuild that I do includes the base pedestal (includes centerpost spin bearings), basket drive (which includes agitate shaft bearings), neutral drain kit and agitator shaft and oil change on the transmission. Treatment and painting of any rust on the cabinet/top/lid (painting is my weak area). Incidentals if needed such as motor coupler, pump, dogs, pads on the skate plate. It wasn't outrageously expensive several years ago, but surely is toward that range today. |
Post# 1125262 , Reply# 27   8/7/2021 at 10:16 (990 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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A new transmission at the online source I often use is $151.83. But, there's no need to full-out replace it when the internal wear parts can be replaced instead. The trick is that servicers don't want to do that, it's much easier to swap the whole transmission ... and true that less labor-time is involved that way than the servicer pulling the existing transmission, opening it, draining the oil, flushing the interior & individual components, replacing the wear items, fresh oil, reassembling, and putting it back into the machine. A DIYer doesn't have to pay those costs. Recent new transmissions are known to be noisy ... thus it's better to repair an old one when possible. Agitator shaft: $78.88 Neutral drain kit: $19.74 Gear oil at the auto supply: $7.50 Permatex Ultra Black Gasket Maker: $9.00 Basket Drive/Brake: $80.07 (found another source $34.75 but don't know if I'd trust it) *Tub Support: $131.38 ($129.99 another source) etc. *I mentioned previously to replace the base pedestal. Should have said the Tub Support, which is a different item. The base pedestal depends on if it's severely rusted or deteriorated. |
Post# 1125267 , Reply# 28   8/7/2021 at 11:02 (990 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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when buying a new washer question yourself on the following
1 how many washload you do per day 2 what cycle you need and use offen 3 price your willing to pay washers you could check but ask if your local store has it in stock and check to see if new washer will not break the power outlet where the washer is plug in maytag vmax maytag power agitator model 2 i would sugess looking at if you went maytag maytag centinial unknow if you went the matching dryer but pics of both models are with there matching dryers |
Post# 1125277 , Reply# 29   8/7/2021 at 13:55 (990 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Who said it needs a timer? I wouldn't give up on this machine just yet but don't randomly throw parts at either. |
Post# 1125295 , Reply# 31   8/7/2021 at 18:20 (990 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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A washer and dryer is kind of like a house. A lot of times when a house gets to be 10 years old things start needing replacement such as appliances, water heaters, maybe hvac systems, and other maintenance type items. But usually once these things are taken care of you should be good for a period of time. On the laundry pair if you have to replace a heating element on the dryer it should last close to as long as the original if there are no reasons to help it fail prematurely. Same with say a motor, it’s pretty costly but shouldn’t have to make that repair again.
My daily driver is a 28 year old Chevy truck with 270,000 miles that I’ve owned for the past 19 years and yes it cost money to keep it going but everything works and I have the confidence to drive it any distance. |
Post# 1125356 , Reply# 32   8/8/2021 at 14:32 (989 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Simply because a machine has wifi connectivity doesn't mean it has to be connected. It will still work fine. All wifi does is allow you to control the washer from your phone or voice (alexa etc) and may give you some frivolous added cycles such as I found on my LG. Never use them, machine is no longer connected.
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Post# 1125424 , Reply# 35   8/9/2021 at 12:42 (988 days old) by Aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Well actually this wouldn’t present any problems it would just be unsightly. But is there any reason you can’t have some kind of free standing |_| shaped (then inverted) cover made from laminated board or something? Would cost barely dollars to make. This would make a cover for the machine. You could even put a back panel on with holes for hoses to escape if needed.
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Post# 1125428 , Reply# 36   8/9/2021 at 13:20 (988 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1125513 , Reply# 39   8/10/2021 at 19:20 (987 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 1125525 , Reply# 40   8/11/2021 at 01:04 (986 days old) by Egress (Oregon)   |   | |
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I'd stay away from that gimmicky agitator thing. removeable agitator? why would you want that? it would be something that gets used like once ever and then never again |
Post# 1125530 , Reply# 41   8/11/2021 at 03:19 (986 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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a GE filter-flo set on craigslist. They're the best washers ever. |
Post# 1125552 , Reply# 42   8/11/2021 at 13:00 (986 days old) by agiflow ()   |   | |
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The Large capacity in a filter flo is too small though. A refurbished 27-in Super capacity direct drive is cavernous in comparison. |
Post# 1125576 , Reply# 43   8/11/2021 at 19:11 (986 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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I think my first priority here is to fix your Kitchenaid, I would if it were mine. If you want a brand new direct replacement of the Kitchenaid, the Maytag Commercial is what I would go for. I would also give Speed Queen another shot if you're going for a brand new washer. I've used the TR7 before and I really like it. But the TC5 is my number one recommendation for a new top load washer today. Now one new top load washer that I would definitely NOT recommend today is this Maytag MVW7230HW. It's my brother's washer and his wife and I both really dislike it. Doesn't perform well, barely moves any clothes around, and it takes longer to clean.
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Post# 1125610 , Reply# 44   8/12/2021 at 09:24 (985 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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panasonicvac i have this model from maytag and i find it cleans real well and has a good turn over of clothes
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Post# 1125629 , Reply# 45   8/12/2021 at 12:29 (985 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)   |   | |
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That's great to hear that you like yours so far. And that's what they originally thought after they bought that washer. But after a year of owning that washer, they don't really like it anymore and I agree with them as I've used it myself before. It's almost just as bad as their other washer they've had before this one. And when my brother and his family move out of their house here very soon, they're looking into leaving the washer (And the dryer) behind and just buy a brand new set at their new house that should work better than this Maytag. Keep in mind here that one washer is not going to please everyone. And everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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Post# 1126275 , Reply# 47   8/19/2021 at 18:27 (978 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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