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Thread Number: 87907
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recent large Volkswagens-2015 up |
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| Post# 1124765 8/2/2021 at 18:01 (990 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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I like the look and size of newer large Volkswagen sedans-a nice black one recently showed up at a local lot,but sold within hours,before I could look it over...just wondering if anyone here has one of these cars or knows anything about durability/reliability ? | ||
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Post# 1124784 , Reply# 3 8/2/2021 at 23:14 (989 days old) by RP2813  (Sannazay) |
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 I loved my '97 Passat wagon with 5-speed stick. It did have its issues, but nothing super costly. It needed a new clutch at around 140K miles. I can't fault it for that. Dave was driving it first and he was murdering the clutch and transmission, so I had to buy a different car with an automatic for him and rescue the Passat.
Still, I have trouble trusting VW to be as reliable as anything Japanese, or even a Mercedes. I'll be interested in hearing about how later models are doing. I loved the CC, but again, was concerned about reliability with those. | ||
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Post# 1124789 , Reply# 5 8/3/2021 at 03:45 (989 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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The Dutch consumer organisation "Consumentenbond" published a big review about the reliability of cars last November. Lexus is the most reliable brand, Volkswagen is among the least reliable with Alfa Romeo at the end of the list. Most reliable car was the Toyota Yaris. Least reliable car was the Volkswagen Passat from before 2014. The later ones are better but the idea that Volkswagen is a reliable brand is more marketing than reality.
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| Post# 1124797 , Reply# 6 8/3/2021 at 08:28 (989 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT) | ||
Consumer Reports | ||
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Post# 1124804 , Reply# 8 8/3/2021 at 09:55 (989 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Lexus vs Toyota | ||
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Post# 1124835 , Reply# 9 8/3/2021 at 17:37 (989 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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My sister's 2001 Subaru Forester has over 200K miles on its original engine and automatic transmission. Lately it has been nickel and diming her with repairs of components that aren't expected to last that long, such as those related to steering and suspension. The Forester's undercarriage isn't as beefy as those used on bigger models like Legacy and Outback.
It's hard to quibble about those repairs since the overwhelming majority of her driving happens in greater Los Angeles, where streets can be bumpy and stop-and-go traffic that is hardest on engines and transmissions is standard operating procedure at almost any time of day. | ||
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Post# 1124857 , Reply# 10 8/3/2021 at 20:09 (988 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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VW has a different model lineup in North America than ROW. Our Passat is very decontented and of an older generation than ROW (and is being discontinued in MY 22...manufactured along with the Atlas in Chattanooga, TN. Golf is barely available...Jetta is what's available in that size...they've got a new small SUV the Taos...no comparison to VW in Australia/NZ. And not particularly reliable either.
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Post# 1124947 , Reply# 11 8/4/2021 at 22:43 (987 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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Been driving VW TDI's the last 22 years. Two Beetles, now a Golf since 03. I can say that there is middle of the road with a VW. You either get a real reliable one, or a real piece of shit. Its why I'm hanging onto the 2000 after all these years still. Reliable as the they built it and still gets over 700 a tank. Still has its original starter after 215k.
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Post# 1124955 , Reply# 12 8/5/2021 at 05:50 (987 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1125187 , Reply# 14 8/6/2021 at 20:06 (985 days old) by Dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA)) |
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Post# 1125229 , Reply# 15 8/7/2021 at 05:00 (985 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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If you get one, find a good reputable independent VW/Audi/Porsche specialty shop to stick with. Ever since my warranty ran out I've been going to the same VW shop in Nashville. Cheaper than the stealership and they use better parts! Dealership would have replaced my water pump with another one with plastic impeller....they used better aftermarket one with metal impellar. The plastic ones have been known to break apart and clog up the cooling system. When my axle seals needed replaced, they used the seals from a Golf R32...a little more expensive but much stronger and last longer. VW dealership service people are not known to be the most knowledgeable anyway...... | ||
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Post# 1125394 , Reply# 16 8/8/2021 at 22:56 (983 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA) |
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I can't speak for the newer ones, but we've been driving a 2001 Passat for a few years now, and I like it way more than I ever expected to.
It has the 1.8 turbo four cylinder, and an automatic. Now, at 20 years old, the New England weather is taking its toll. And it has a few "quirks". The power door locks are temperamental. The rear passenger side window regulator is shot, so we can't open that window. But, it has about 135,000 miles on it, and it's still really nice to drive. And it doesn't have a single rattle or squeak. As others have said, ours too has only been serviced by certified VW/Audi technicians since it was new, and has run nothing but full synthetic oil. At least on the 1.8 turbo, that's an absolute must. I think, even back in 2001, some were built in Germany, and some were built somewhere else. Ours is an authentic German built car, if that makes a difference. I'm not sure if any of them are currently built in Germany. If you decide to go for it, I hope you get one that's as good as ours has been! Barry | ||
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Post# 1125399 , Reply# 17 8/9/2021 at 05:22 (983 days old) by Rapunzel (Sydney) |
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The car that piques my interest is the Lucid Air, which is poised to come out next year. | ||
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Post# 1125458 , Reply# 18 8/10/2021 at 01:46 (982 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn) |
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Plastic water pump impellers.....
I've heard that argument many times. I've been driving my 2000 Golf TDI since I bought it from the original owner in 2003 and have had 3 timing belt jobs done at the dealer in that time. I always go to the parts dept and buy all the parts needed to do a COMPLETE T/B job. Not once have I had the VW plastic impeller fail. Of course I always do the belt at the required interval and never let it go over 7 years due to aging of the belt.
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| Post# 1125500 , Reply# 20 8/10/2021 at 16:10 (982 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
Perhaps VW has upped their game after the Dieselgate Scandal, putting profits ahead of the environment, I don't know as I say "never again".
I can only speak to my wife's Golf TDI Mk IV. She loved the car, and while we never had trouble with the engine nor manual gearbox, I really got tired of 'fixing' the little things. Apparently, the car wasn't intended for use in areas where weather includes "snow". 1. The door seals were a special design that would freeze to the inside of the door, such that opening the door would rip them right off the body, rivets and all! 2. The oil pan was cast aluminum and located at the lowest point of the undercarriage without any protection...a chunk of ice on a residential street was enough to split it open, leaving a trail of black diesel oil in its wake. I changed the pan using VW's proprietary gasket sealer, laying on a dirt floor in sub zero temps. It was a success, until a week later when the car had to be towed to a VW specialist for a different reason, and the tow truck driver ended up cracking the new pan, too. 3. The wipers, rather than 'stall by design' if they were frozen in place or encountered any amount of snow, had slip washers that would allow the motor to run completely disengaged from the wiper arms. Now you have no functional wipers until you pop the caps on the arms and get out your socket set. Not fun when it's below freezing, pre-dawn, and you have places to be. Over-tightening would result in stress on the system in other places. 4. In cold weather, the ECU would perform a resistance test of the glow plugs on startup, but had a software defect that didn't take into account small resistance changes to the harness or connectors, so it would set a check engine light. It may have even aborted the glow plug power routine (why?!). The only fix was a "new" harness at considerable expense. There were also lots of little user-interface gripes I had with the car, and repairs I'm sure I've forgotten. My understanding is we dodged a real bullet avoiding the automatic trans. I have friends that had New Beetles during the same time and they had to fight VW to honor their powertrain warranty; their experiences were, shall we say, less than stellar. | ||
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Post# 1125590 , Reply# 23 8/12/2021 at 03:13 (980 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 1125694 , Reply# 24 8/13/2021 at 09:38 (979 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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vw full size sedan What's the model name of this sedan? | ||
| Post# 1125783 , Reply# 25 8/14/2021 at 14:20 (978 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Large VW sedan names; Passat, and currently Arteo, which replaced the CC sedan coupe. In North America, the frst large FWD VW was the Dasher, then the Quantum (Santana elewhere). | ||
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Post# 1125803 , Reply# 26 8/14/2021 at 20:07 (977 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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Dasher was the US-market name of the first Passat. I've always had a soft spot for them. | ||
| Post# 1125818 , Reply# 27 8/15/2021 at 08:06 (977 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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I liked those too.. ...with lenghtwise mounted engine and radiator off to the side-Audi style :) | ||
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