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Thread Number: 87928
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
history of whirlpool leap design 2000 |
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| Post# 1124974 , Reply# 1 8/5/2021 at 09:27 (856 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 1124999 , Reply# 3 8/5/2021 at 12:43 (856 days old) by DADoES  (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1125002 , Reply# 4 8/5/2021 at 13:07 (856 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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Glen thank you. I thought it was around 2003-04. I knew you would come with the answer. | ||
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Post# 1125013 , Reply# 5 8/5/2021 at 15:22 (856 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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designs What sets the newer design 2000 transmission apart from the old belt drive ones? What's the agitation arc comparing the 2? Did whirlpool really want to compete with more aggressive agitation with the transmission design? | ||
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Post# 1125014 , Reply# 6 8/5/2021 at 15:27 (856 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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agitation arc confusion Some say that the agitation arc on the design 2000s are 90 degrees, while others say it's 100 degrees. Can somebody clear that up once and for all? I believe the Maytag Centennial units were also based on this very design before the changeover. | ||
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Post# 1125029 , Reply# 7 8/5/2021 at 17:45 (856 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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My copy of Whirlpool's L-46 "Design 2000 Direct Drive Washer) service manual copyright 1981 states -- Agitate Speed: 177-181 Strokes Per Minute High Speed (commonly referenced as 180 SPM) 118-122 Strokes Per Minute Low Speed (commonly referenced as 120 SPM) 100° Arc (3-speed models later added an Extra Low speed of 88-92 strokes per minute) (commonly referenced as 90 SPM) Spin Speed: 640-650 RPM High Speed (commonly referenced as 640 RPM) 425-429 RPM Low Speed (commonly referenced as 425 RPM) There are too many differences on direct-drive vs. classic belt-drive to detail all of it. | ||
| Post# 1125041 , Reply# 8 8/5/2021 at 19:50 (856 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1125042 , Reply# 9 8/5/2021 at 20:08 (856 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Direct-drive transmissions are all the same gearing for the duration of production. KA machines had the same 1, 2, or 3-speed motors as all the other brands so produced the same SPM at the same motor speeds. They're different only in that models with the larger-base agitator ran low motor speed for high agitation (120 SPM) and ex low motor speed for low agitation (90 SPM). Early models without the larger-base agitator ...circa 1987 and maybe 1988 ... didn't do that so those were 180 and 120 SPM. | ||
| Post# 1125049 , Reply# 10 8/5/2021 at 20:31 (856 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1125062 , Reply# 11 8/5/2021 at 22:23 (856 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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The Reason DD Washers Had a Faster Shorter Stroke Was because it cost less to build because they could use the same reduction gears for spin and agitate.
FD did this with the Pulseamatic machines in the mid 50s that spun at 660 RPMs and agitated at 660 strokes per minute, Philco also dis the same thing on their Auto-Magic washers and of course MT did this on their orbital helical drive washers.
John L. | ||
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Post# 1125063 , Reply# 12 8/5/2021 at 22:24 (856 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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The Reason DD Washers Had a Faster Shorter Stroke Was because it cost less to build because they could use the same reduction gears for spin and agitate.
FD did this with the Pulseamatic machines in the mid 50s that spun at 660 RPMs and agitated at 660 strokes per minute, Philco also dis the same thing on their Auto-Magic washers and of course MT did this on their orbital helical drive washers.
John L. | ||
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Post# 1125065 , Reply# 14 8/5/2021 at 22:34 (856 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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dd copy by GE On a sidenote, I believe GE did the same thing with their plastic tub units. I had one from 2000-2017 which agitated similar to a whirlpool dd. Please correct me. | ||
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Post# 1125084 , Reply# 17 8/6/2021 at 03:48 (856 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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dryer Here's the sound of the dryer. You'll notice the blower sound while running. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK | ||
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Post# 1125138 , Reply# 18 8/6/2021 at 15:29 (855 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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transmission design Did they make their transmissions smaller, shallower or narrower to get the 180spm/100arc agitation? Did they use plastic or metal gears? CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK | ||
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Post# 1125143 , Reply# 19 8/6/2021 at 15:57 (855 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 1125303 , Reply# 20 8/7/2021 at 20:09 (854 days old) by chetlaham (United States) | ||
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Post# 1125481 , Reply# 21 8/10/2021 at 10:29 (851 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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transmission How big are the whirlpool transmissions compared to the GE post filter-flos? Do they use plastic or metal gears for durability? | ||
| Post# 1125516 , Reply# 22 8/10/2021 at 21:30 (851 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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Look at reply #19. It's all right there. | ||
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Post# 1125532 , Reply# 23 8/11/2021 at 04:04 (851 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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Excuse me, but I cannot see the video being shown in terms of the transmission size comparing the whirlpool and GE transmissions. Please describe. From what I understand, the whirlpool agitates at 100 degrees at 180 strokes per minute. Is this correct? What about compared to the GE? | ||
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Post# 1131598 , Reply# 24 10/21/2021 at 16:15 (779 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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transmissions I believe the dd transmissions weigh 17 lbs while the bd ones weigh 25 lbs and have pulleys. I'm intrigued about how Whirlpool was able to use large transmissions. What did they do to make them lighter? Did they make them smaller, narrower or shallower? | ||
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