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Thread Number: 87941
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Cascade Platinum over sudsing |
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| Post# 1125130 8/6/2021 at 13:59 (992 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
Hello all, in recent times I’ve tried most of the cascade pacs. I’m more of a gel and powder type, I always use the Cascade Complete with OXI gel which is non chlorinated and for you scent freaks like me it smells like a very strong mountain breeze with a twist of citrus, it’s a bright ocean blue gel, and it’s absolutely delicious smelling and works so very well. Cleans and shines without sudsing at all really. But today they didn’t have any gel at my store so I wanted to try these, and oh goodness they smell absolutely incredible and remind me of when I used these in my newer Maytag jetclean and vintage hotpoint several years ago. These are the lemon ones, and actually a month or so ago I bought the original platinum in a small pack to try out, and it didn’t over suds at all. For context I own a Whirlpool powerclean in my new place, so of course it’s going to cause sudsing with most pacs. But as said, last few times I purchased these pacs they didn’t foam too much. This time they are extremely sudsy in my dishwasher during the wash, and I’m concerned it could spill out the front at some point if I’m not around it. I found a trick that actually works to help de-suds the wash cycle, just add some cascade complete gel and start it back up and it should immediately clear most of the suds. I always have a bottle of it on hand under my sink, but there are many other remedies as well than just that. Just found it interesting.
When the dishwasher starts to get real foamy, just out of curiosity, does it make the motor have to work harder? Is it a bad thing for it to get real sudsy just during the main wash? Let me know if this happens to you with a modern machine, since mine is a late 90s design. But I’m just wondering because if it can affect the longevity of my machine I’ll have to not use this detergent. | ||
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| Post# 1125131 , Reply# 1 8/6/2021 at 14:01 (992 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
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Also I left this out, when it got this sudsy you could barley hear the water jetting out of the arms and hitting the walls, just the motor slightly stiffening from the suds and of course became much quieter with just the normal hum of the motor and no sloshing/hurricane in a box sounds. So yes, it was very sudsy and not just a little bit.
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Post# 1125149 , Reply# 2 8/6/2021 at 16:08 (992 days old) by lakewebsterkid  (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Too much suds I know this sounds bad, but, cut the pac and empty the powder into the dispenser. No suds issues when you do this. That way you can still use it. | ||
| Post# 1125151 , Reply# 3 8/6/2021 at 16:22 (992 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 1125158 , Reply# 4 8/6/2021 at 17:09 (992 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 My well water is untreated, 9+ grains. As mentioned and depicted in a previous discussion of pods, Cascade Platinum causes oversudsing such that 1) the spray arm is buried in suds, 2) spray force is impaired, and 3) more water may be added to compensate for what has turned to suds and reduced the current draw of the pump. Good luck cutting them in half ... | ||
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Post# 1125166 , Reply# 5 8/6/2021 at 18:24 (992 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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The other thing you can do I buy simethicone or Gas-X and add one or two of the gel caps to the main wash dispenser and you won't have over sudsing problems. | ||
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Post# 1125182 , Reply# 7 8/6/2021 at 19:49 (991 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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| Post# 1125198 , Reply# 8 8/6/2021 at 21:28 (991 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
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By the way, does anyone know what the colored gels are on the top face of the “action pac”? For instance like mentioned I have the lemon cascade platinum, which has three liquid filled sections over the powder portion, one is green, purple, and yellow. Yellow i would imagine being colored fragrance. I have no idea what the other two are? Where is the so called dawn in these? Is it in the powder or one of the liquid spots?
It seems hit or miss of these things being sudsy, I’ve purchased the other scented platinum pacs and they didn’t over suds at all in the same dishwasher, and now I get the lemon scented ones and they create tons of foam, I like a little suds to the wash but that many seems unhealthy for it. | ||
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Post# 1125200 , Reply# 9 8/6/2021 at 21:38 (991 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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We Have Been Having A lot of Problems With Suds With Cascade Platinum Tablets, it has caused a lot of service calls because it makes some DWs actually leak and it is much worse on older DWs with a powerful pump and a lot of water action.
If you have problems call P&G and they will refund or replace the product, it also seems that they made some bad batches of these pods.
John L. | ||
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Post# 1125228 , Reply# 10 8/7/2021 at 04:56 (991 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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| Post# 1125281 , Reply# 11 8/7/2021 at 15:42 (991 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
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I’ve tried the original chlorinated gels and they make the entire dishwasher smell like bleach, and the dishes. Not a fan of bleach. So I stay as far away from it as I can with detergents. They have never done me well either which surprised me knowing it contains chlorine so I switched to the cascade complete gel with doesn’t contain chlorine and leaves the best scent I’ve ever inhaled in my life inside the machine after it’s complete, without leaving the dishes smelling like it. Anyways, knowing that I got this same platinum product last time in a different scent and it didn’t over suds, I think I should call them and get a replacement if I notice the dishes coming out soapy or not rinsed enough.
If anyone knows what these colored liquid sections are in the cascade pacs, let me know. Cant find anywhere as to what they are filled with. | ||
| Post# 1203829 , Reply# 12 4/20/2024 at 10:41 by cliff (Illinois) | ||
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Over suds I am half way through a package of 52 count Cascade Platinum Plus, and yesterday and now today I am finding that the tub is full of suds, and it is going out onto the flooring. | ||
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Post# 1203984 , Reply# 15 4/23/2024 at 09:28 by appnut (TX) |
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