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FSP / Whirlpool Timer 20055515 / 359312
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Post# 1126716   8/24/2021 at 14:42 (947 days old) by merccougbird (Calgary, Alberta, Canada)        

Good Afternoon :
I need to acquire a timer for my Whirlpool ( Canadian Inglis ) BD washing machine, circa 1982. I completed a major overhaul ( bearings, seals, the whole 9 yards ) except the timer, and wouldn't you know it, the timer started to 'act-up' a couple of months later. It was consistently stopping between the wash cycle and the beginning of the ( first )spin cycle.
I had two timers, and was able to amalgamate the two into one working unit. But as we all know, spare / back-up is also preferable !
I need :
(1) a replacement plastic timing spool ( with all the program cogs on it ) the only part number I can see on it, is inside - it is B4.
(2) another set of contacts ( again, no part #'s but they are the 'fingers' that track their way around the cogs on the program spool, and open and close the circuits for the wig-wag solenoids, motor, water valve, etc.
I have contacted the two major ( Canadian ) rebuilders ( Turners and ApplianceTimers ) and both would only be able to rebuild what is sent in to them - they have none in stock and are only working with cores sent in.
Having already repaired one, I think I would prefer to rebuild my own - hence the need for another set of contacts and the plastic program /cycle spool.
The part number for the complete timer was ( WP 359312 ) and ( FSP 20055515 .

Lastly does anyone know the 'easy' way to reinstall all the little parts inside the gray plastic housing ( under the drive motor ( M001 3WS / WP 357295 ) that regulates the turning of the plastic cycle spool ? I know the position and orientation of all of the parts, and how they connect, but getting them all in place and re-installing the cover simultaneously without the spring jettisoning all the parts into space is a challenge !

Here are some images of what I'm talking about :


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Post# 1126810 , Reply# 1   8/25/2021 at 13:37 (946 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
I would try to find a new or used replacement timer

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These are not easy things to fix although not impossible but I personally would never bother trying to rebuild a timer like this.

Hopefully you can find a replacement

It’s more often the little switch contacts and leaves that fell off and you can clean a contact and adjust it, even though the gray cam looks bad usually they’re OK.

And even if there is a small defect in the gray cam you could build it up with Epoxy and use a Dremel to fix it.

John


Post# 1127802 , Reply# 2   9/5/2021 at 11:41 (935 days old) by merccougbird (Calgary, Alberta, Canada)        
Repair to Gray spool / cam and the contacts

Hi John :
thanks for the advice. I've used some JB Weld to repair two spots on the cams that encircle the gray drum. Turned out fine and it runs through the cycles perfectly - no stalling at any point.
The 'spare' drum is the one with the chewed up gears. So it is the one I'm looking to replace, or find a 'donor' drum to carefully cut away the ring gear teeth and epoxy / crazy glue them to drum I have ( because it appears there were many iterations of these drums, depending on the number of cycles, etc. that the machine came with ).
If I just replace one drum with a different part numbered drum into my machine, I'm sure there would be a big 'disconnect' between the cycles and what the face place control indicates that the machine is doing. It would probably still work fine, but who knows which cycle it would be performing, and for how long a duration the wash, rinse and spin cycles would take ( compared to the original ) !
I also figured out how all the small gear advancing teeth levers mechanism works and reassembled it ( the 'stuff' beneath the 1/2 HP motor ). So no issues with that.
I also found a small part number on the gray plastic spool / timer cog drum - it was # 91896.
So the situation as it stands :
(1) still need a gray plastic drum ( p/n 91896 )
(2) some of the contact arms ( in the black plastic bakelite housings ) to swap out the 'fried' contacts - these are the main power input arms, directly connected to the small timer motor.



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