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Post# 1126799   8/25/2021 at 10:52 (945 days old) by pro104 (brooksville florida)        

What's everyones pick for a new dishwasher. I've had extremely good luck with GE and Maytag over the years.




Post# 1126806 , Reply# 1   8/25/2021 at 12:54 (945 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Depends on what you want , many will say Bosch. I say LG.

Post# 1126814 , Reply# 2   8/25/2021 at 14:39 (945 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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This is the LG LDF5678BD that I have. I love this dishwasher sher. It performs well, as well as the Bosch that was here before I replaced it. The Bosch was a nice machine, but, was lacking in capacity. It performed well but if one has chunky dishes it will leave one frustrated. For the money the LG has much more to offer cycle wise and much more flexibility…here is a pic of the LG dishwasher that I have …

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Post# 1126815 , Reply# 3   8/25/2021 at 15:17 (945 days old) by Fisherpaykel (BC Canada)        

Not difficult to guess I favour easy use of Fisher Paykel DishDrawers, and agree with Mike that Bosch racks don't accommodate a variety of dishware and unless buying the top end models they have litle or no adjustability. Mike your new DW is looking pretty sharp!

Post# 1126824 , Reply# 4   8/25/2021 at 16:32 (945 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I had a Fisher & Paykel dish drawer dishwasher and I did like the novelty of it, but, if one entertains alot that dishwasher was maddening. It is fine for someone that doesnt cook or is by themselves. That dishwasher lasted 3 years until the top drawer decided to lose its mind and start leaking. I got it fixed only to have it go out agin. So I replaced it with a Miele that lasted 10 years. I will never, ever spend $2k on a dishwasher ever again. When something that expensive goes, it goes with great fanfare. Parts for the Miele are not cheap by any means.

Post# 1126886 , Reply# 5   8/26/2021 at 12:29 (944 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

I moved in a condo equipped with Fisher & Paykel Dish-drawers. After two breakdowns in a year, and the annoying small capacity, and bad complicated loading layout, I replaced them by a Maytag dishwasher. 10 times better. Washing and loading is much better. Extremely quiet.
I would never buy those dish drawers again. The Maytag was much better priced than similar Bosch dishwashers.


Post# 1126977 , Reply# 6   8/27/2021 at 06:03 (944 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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I love that new 3 Rack Maytag, or the 3 Rack Kitchenaid . They wash great  and you can fit so much in them.


Post# 1126982 , Reply# 7   8/27/2021 at 06:57 (943 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
I must be the odd one out...

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As swapped out a Miele DW for a set of F&P dishdrawers which suits us much better as no more waiting to fill the dishwasher and it always seemed to fill up just as lunch was done so no where to clear the kitchen, Since going back to the drawers there is no clutter waiting to be washed as even though its run more often its low consumption means its no more expensive, I think the only part that costs a little more is extra detergent but buy it on sale and the jobs a good one.

Austin


Post# 1127038 , Reply# 8   8/27/2021 at 20:00 (943 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
whirlpool

I would go with whirlpool. I have to say that they are decent performers.

Post# 1127045 , Reply# 9   8/27/2021 at 21:51 (943 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i would say kitchenaid

Post# 1127048 , Reply# 10   8/27/2021 at 22:33 (943 days old) by Stephen (Palm Springs CA USA)        
F&P

We moved to a new house that has a Bosch. Left behind Fisher and Paykel Dish Drawers and miss them. Feel like we spend more time trying to get things to fit right now. With the dish drawers there was more flexibility. Or you could put the dishes on top and pans in the bottom drawer. You could even run them on different cycles.

Post# 1127195 , Reply# 11   8/29/2021 at 18:25 (941 days old) by Moon1234 (Wisconsin)        

It depends on what your needs would be.

- Do you do dishes for 2-4 people or more? Do you eat two to three meals per day with everyone? How many loads do you do? Is it 3 per week or 3 per day.

The “I like brand xxx and it has lasted us 20 years” tells you very little. How often an appliance is used will help determine its longevity.

We have 14 people in our house. We run the dishwasher 3-5 time per day and it is full.

We have had the following brands:

- Kitchenaid
- LG
- Bosch
- Miele

The ONLY brand to last longer than 2.5-3 years is Miele. Everyone other brand something too expensive to fix breaks. The Last washer before the Miele was a Bosch. It was repaired five times in one year (under extended warranty). We used the lemon clause to get our money back. Bought a Miele Crystal. It had one repair so far. The locking clasp that keeps the door closed failed. Miele replaced it under warranty. No other problems. It has 5000 hours on it in about two years.

If you don’t use the dishwasher every day then almost any brand will probably last a long time. It would be similar to only putting 5000 miles a year on your car. It’s probably going to last a long time. If you put 50k on a year then you better buy something with a history of reliability when it’s heavily used.


Post# 1127199 , Reply# 12   8/29/2021 at 21:13 (941 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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My advice is to take your dishes to the store and make sure they fit...if things don't fit you'll be irritated continuously with every load.

Post# 1127267 , Reply# 13   8/30/2021 at 16:13 (940 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Here a few pics from tonight’s dish load in the LG dishwasher. This dishwasher has ample room. This is the before pics. I will post the after pics when it’s finished QuadWashing the load….

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Post# 1127297 , Reply# 14   8/30/2021 at 19:10 (940 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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The results of the load that I washed.

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Post# 1127310 , Reply# 15   8/30/2021 at 21:20 (940 days old) by agiflow ()        

Reply #14. Would it be possible to get a shot of the spray arms please ?

Post# 1127335 , Reply# 16   8/31/2021 at 08:16 (939 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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spray arms…don’t mind the stuff on the door I started loading the dishwasher with this mornings breakfast dishes….1st pic is the Quadwash lower arm. 2nd is the middle arm. 3rd is the top impeller arm.

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Post# 1127919 , Reply# 17   9/6/2021 at 19:47 (933 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I've been thinking

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Back when the modern diswashers started coming out with filters that you had to take out and periodically clean - I was so against that. I thought, why? Who would wanna do that? But after rolling it over in my head, what's the big deal? It actually gives you more access if something gets down there that shouldn't be. Plus, they don't look that hard to clean at all. In fact, with my Maytag (as much as I love it) if the chopper area ever does need cleaning, I have to take a lot of the dishwasher apart. It makes me envy that easy access with filters you take out to clean. So far, the Maytag's are still my favorite "CURRENT" dishwashers....But then, how can I say favorite when I haven't really experienced an LG or Kitchenaid or Whirlpool? My Maytag is just over 7 years old now and not a lick of trouble. I don't use the dry cycle though...WHY? Probably stupid......but - I read that it can cause the control board to go out prematurely....same with using self-clean cycle on ovens. With the dishwasher, I've just always opened it immediately when done, shook the racks and let flash dry.

Post# 1127944 , Reply# 18   9/7/2021 at 06:00 (933 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
As long as it isn’t....

Samsung.
We have had a Bosch and loved it. I have a set newer Whirlpool machines and they are good, they just take a long time with additional options.


Post# 1127949 , Reply# 19   9/7/2021 at 08:38 (932 days old) by agiflow ()        

Reply #16. Thank you. These look like nice machines.

Post# 1128105 , Reply# 20   9/8/2021 at 19:53 (931 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)        
Miele 7000 series?

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The new 7000 series Mieles look nice. 3rd rack for silverware with a dedicated spray arm. The 3rd rack is also adjustable so you can place tall cups/water bottles on the middle rack. They look to have an updated system this year with the bottom spray arm is directly connected to the filter. Supposed 20 year lifespan using once per day as well.

Post# 1128152 , Reply# 21   9/9/2021 at 05:10 (931 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I have a G7000 and am very happy with it.
Very efficient and good results with good detergent.
However it really has long cycles and drying on plastics is just decent.

I'd rather have a Bosch with Zeolite drying.
It's cheaper, cleans just as well and just as efficient but drys way better with shorter cycle times.
Might not last as long and not feel quite that high end, but under normal pricing situations they are half the price.


Post# 1128230 , Reply# 22   9/9/2021 at 22:13 (930 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)        
Miele G 7000

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I have a G 7919 SCi and have to say I'm extremely pleased with it. It's connected to hot water so the cycle times are shorter and the results are great. There are lots of options you can add to the programs. I tried the SuperVison where you can check what's going on with other Miele appliances, but I then switched it off as I have the app on my phone.

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Post# 1128262 , Reply# 23   9/10/2021 at 09:56 (929 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)        

Rod

In another thread, you mentioned that the extra clean option on your 7000 series would do a flush between each program segment. Will you describe what the flush is so I can better understand what is happening.

Thanks



Post# 1128293 , Reply# 24   9/10/2021 at 15:04 (929 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)        

The new Whirlpool line featuring the new filtration system that requires “No regular maintenance” looks very appealing, the top of the line Whirlpool Kitchenaid & Maytag are all identical with third racks and fully stainless with the new thin wash arms. I’ve heard complaints about a part getting dislodged in the pump, but other than that people say it’s a great performer. Which I’m not sure if all wash levels work at once, or if they switch like the older style Whirlpools with the “Total Coverage” spray arm. I’d totally get a brand new Maytag fully loaded, looks really nice. But to me, these new dishwashers by Whirlpool look slightly cheaply made and the voyager Maytag top control Jetcleans really looked sharp from when it was first introduced in 2009.

Post# 1128302 , Reply# 25   9/10/2021 at 16:45 (929 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts)        

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Amana from 2014 is what I have in my apartment. I use Normal with Hi Temp or Heavy and I always have clean dishes and haven't had any complaints.

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Post# 1128306 , Reply# 26   9/10/2021 at 18:47 (929 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
"... a flush between each program segment."

I am assuming that it is a bit like my old Bosch.

After the mainwash, my Bosch drains the dirty water, then does one of two things:

- It seems to fill part of the water matrix, tap is turned off, then it pours that into the tub, circulation for a second or two and then drains separately a few seconds later. This is the most common sequence as far as I can tell, and seems to occur after each rinse, and most of the main washes.

- Other times (not always) it seems to open the tap and pumps straight out at the same time. Similar to someone constantly running a tap straight down the sink plughole. I've wondered whether this is a genuine suds or dirt flush, or whether it is really connected to water softener regeneration.


Post# 1128324 , Reply# 27   9/11/2021 at 01:56 (929 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)        
Miele Extra Clean option

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Hi Jerrod_Six,
The Extra Clean option does a flush of the filter/sump. It uses 1 litre/1 quart of water to do this. It does this at the end of the prewash, end of the main wash and end of the interim rinse. The water enters and drains at the same time as a regeneration cycle.
The dishwasher does regenerate periodically but does this at the beginning of the cycle.


Post# 1128370 , Reply# 28   9/11/2021 at 16:12 (928 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
@Rollsrapide

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I thought when they run the fill and drain at the same time its cleaning the water softener crystals as the Miele did that but not always after every wash and it only used soft water on wash and final rinse.

Austin


Post# 1128414 , Reply# 29   9/12/2021 at 04:00 (928 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
whirlpool new line

I assume this is the whirlpool line with micro clean filtration. Correct?

Post# 1128451 , Reply# 30   9/12/2021 at 15:22 (927 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        
@ozzie908

You could well be right about the 'fill and immediate drain' being softener regeneration.

My machine has grand ideas about mixing the final rinse water proportions of soft water to unsoftened water. The final rinse pressure to the upper basket is also too insipid in my opinion.

I personally preferred the older idea - completely softened final rinse water, with decent water pressure delivered to all areas of the cabinet, and allow the modern rinse-aids to introduce the sacrificial zinc component to mitigate glass corrosion.


Post# 1128462 , Reply# 31   9/12/2021 at 17:24 (927 days old) by Jerrod_Six (Eastern Pennsylvania, USA)        

Thanks, Rod

Mine does the softener regeneration at the beginning of the program once in a while, so I understand the behavior you are describing. So the DW uses a 1-liter in total extra for the entire program when this option is selected.

Much thanks for the info.



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