Thread Number: 88166
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
2015 Speed Queen Washer Model AWNE82SP113TW01 |
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Post# 1127403   9/1/2021 at 03:19 (1,324 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127404 , Reply# 1   9/1/2021 at 03:20 (1,324 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127410 , Reply# 2   9/1/2021 at 05:10 (1,324 days old) by EEMac (Olympia, WA)   |   | |
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Post# 1127417 , Reply# 3   9/1/2021 at 06:55 (1,324 days old) by mrsalvo ![]() |
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I have a 2015 Speed Queen. Your new washer should serve you well for many years. Have found they wash best if not overloaded.
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Post# 1127444 , Reply# 4   9/1/2021 at 13:49 (1,324 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127449 , Reply# 8   9/1/2021 at 14:20 (1,324 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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I let it soak with a mixture of very hot water, vinegar and baking soda. Follow by a brush. I got most of it out, except for some totally stuck on scales around the shaft. So now I am soaking that particular area with CLR. Followed with some more scrubbing. I can only imagine what lies underneath the wash basket.
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Post# 1127451 , Reply# 9   9/1/2021 at 14:29 (1,324 days old) by peteski50 ![]() |
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Post# 1127458 , Reply# 11   9/1/2021 at 15:11 (1,324 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1127473 , Reply# 12   9/1/2021 at 17:30 (1,324 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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CLR removed a few more scales. But the transmission seal ring around the shaft still has a few black pieces. The transmission seal ring is rough, whatever this was/is certainly corroded the metal. Now I am doing a hot water, heavy duty cycle with Oxyclean. This post was last edited 09/01/2021 at 18:02 |
Post# 1127476 , Reply# 13   9/1/2021 at 17:45 (1,324 days old) by whirlykenmore78 ![]() |
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Post# 1127478 , Reply# 14   9/1/2021 at 18:00 (1,324 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127485 , Reply# 16   9/1/2021 at 19:16 (1,324 days old) by Yogitunes ![]() |
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you beat me to it...as I was going to suggest after seeing this far, that tub needs to come out and get scrubbed....
not to mention the splash shield, and other hidden areas.....I have a feeling your going to find a lot more..... but once done, you know it will be thoroughly cleaned.... you almost want to take it apart, take pics, reassemble it, and test out some of these washer cleaners, to see if they actually work.....that would definitely be a machine to test them out on... keep us posted |
Post# 1127497 , Reply# 17   9/1/2021 at 21:49 (1,324 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Hi Louis. Congratulations on your great find on this washer.
We see this type of mess quite often in even full fill TL machines, as already mentioned it is mostly caused by using too little detergent and too cool water temperatures for washing conditions.
What you are cleaning away is a combination of dirt, oils and mineral deposits, it is not detergent residue, this washer looks like will clean up very well.
John L. |
Post# 1127587 , Reply# 18   9/2/2021 at 19:17 (1,323 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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I have the next model up as well as the prior TOL model AWN542. I like the digital washer much better than the manual timer model. Electronics make the wash cycle much faster. Mike
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Post# 1127595 , Reply# 19   9/2/2021 at 21:13 (1,323 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127598 , Reply# 20   9/2/2021 at 21:52 (1,323 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Well I am nearly done. I have never seen so much mold and grime in a washer.
The remains of some sort of a gasket in which the inner basket sits on the outer basket. I have not found the part number. I was wondering if i could use one of those make your own gasket products.
It helped soften the grime and mold, but it took a lot of elbow grease and SOS pads to get it clean.
After various thorough hose downs and spins it's all shiny. And no more moldy smell.
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Post# 1127599 , Reply# 21   9/2/2021 at 22:26 (1,323 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127600 , Reply# 22   9/2/2021 at 22:53 (1,323 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Looks great! What are you going to do with the Kenmore? Mike |
Post# 1127601 , Reply# 23   9/2/2021 at 22:59 (1,323 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Thanks Mike. The Kenmore is going to my sister. I think I am going to change the water inlet valve. It's working fine. But it's the original, it may be a good idea to put in a new one.
I already bypassed the lid switch on the Speed Queen.
I found the gasket part #39122. I'll go tomorrow to the parts store. Hopefully the SQ will be in service by Friday evening.
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Post# 1127607 , Reply# 24   9/3/2021 at 00:27 (1,323 days old) by DADoES ![]() |
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Post# 1127646 , Reply# 25   9/3/2021 at 13:19 (1,322 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127651 , Reply# 26   9/3/2021 at 14:57 (1,322 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 1127654 , Reply# 27   9/3/2021 at 16:05 (1,322 days old) by luxflairguy ![]() |
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Really impressed with the work! Can't imagine the smell and gunk you encountered! Thanks for documenting the process! Greg |
Post# 1127663 , Reply# 28   9/3/2021 at 18:54 (1,322 days old) by littlegreeny ![]() |
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Post# 1127669 , Reply# 29   9/3/2021 at 19:38 (1,322 days old) by chetlaham ![]() |
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Post# 1127675 , Reply# 30   9/3/2021 at 20:41 (1,322 days old) by trappn (Illinois)   |   | |
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Our 9-series now plays second-fiddle to the LG 4200. Now that we're retired, will be interesting to see what we find when we disassemble the Speed Queen. |
Post# 1127681 , Reply# 31   9/3/2021 at 22:41 (1,322 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127682 , Reply# 32   9/3/2021 at 22:50 (1,322 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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The Speed Queen has been sidelined until the gasket arrives. In the meantime, I am going to install some sound deadening mats to help quiet down the machine. It's a bit too loud for my tastes. While the area where the motor resides is fairly clean, I might as well wipe it down since it's opened up.
Oh, and there still is a very slight musty smell. I have thoroughly cleaned everything I could think of, yet a faint odor lingers. I wonder if it's coming from the pump, or perhaps some of the hoses. I'll try one of those washer cleaner/deodorizer next. Any recommendations? |
Post# 1127683 , Reply# 33   9/3/2021 at 23:16 (1,322 days old) by Yogitunes ![]() |
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any type of cleaner for mold/mildew could be used to clean out the hoses.....or just pour some bleach down the hose.....those corrugated hoses hide a lot...
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Post# 1127696 , Reply# 34   9/4/2021 at 06:57 (1,321 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)   |   | |
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EXCELLENT WORK!!! Thanks for the progress pics...they're extremely helpful |
Post# 1127780 , Reply# 35   9/5/2021 at 05:08 (1,320 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127791 , Reply# 38   9/5/2021 at 09:13 (1,320 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127793 , Reply# 39   9/5/2021 at 09:49 (1,320 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1127794 , Reply# 40   9/5/2021 at 10:08 (1,320 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1127799 , Reply# 41   9/5/2021 at 10:37 (1,320 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() I would not brother, It will clean itself once you start using the machine properly,
Worrying about the inside of the drain hose is like taking your house apart to clean the drainage lines.
We see dirty washers like this all the time, when we get them in the shop they will clean themselves but it might take 20-40 loads with heavy detergent and some LCB but they do come clean without disassembly.
We had a full sized Miele FL washer come in the shop about a year ago, it was the dirtiest washer I had ever seen reeked to high heaven, after about 30 loads the machine looked like new when we had to take it apart for a spider replacement.
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Post# 1127818 , Reply# 42   9/5/2021 at 14:11 (1,320 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1128025 , Reply# 43   9/8/2021 at 05:07 (1,317 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1128042 , Reply# 44   9/8/2021 at 12:53 (1,317 days old) by appnut ![]() |
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Post# 1128043 , Reply# 45   9/8/2021 at 12:55 (1,317 days old) by appnut ![]() |
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Louie, here's an old product listing for the dryer that includes documentation.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO appnut's LINK |
Post# 1128057 , Reply# 46   9/8/2021 at 15:18 (1,317 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1128117 , Reply# 47   9/8/2021 at 20:47 (1,317 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Louie did you get that mat on Amazon? I think I’m going to do the same to my machines. Mike |
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Post# 1128127 , Reply# 49   9/8/2021 at 22:00 (1,317 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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When I saw the black specs around the belt area. I knew the belt was a goner. I ran my fingers while turning the belt and sure enough, there was a large gash and a chunk missing from the inside of the belt. True to form, these washers eat up belts every 6 years or so. I ordered a new one. Part # SQ 38174
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Post# 1128128 , Reply# 50   9/8/2021 at 22:04 (1,317 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1128253 , Reply# 55   9/10/2021 at 09:03 (1,315 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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You forget John, the machine STUNK to high heaven. Plus after a few empty test cycles, there were pieces of mold left over in the tub and it still stunk. There was no way in hell I was going to wash clothes in that machine. I'm mighty glad I took it apart to clean. An added bonus was I discovered it needed a gasket that needed to be replaced. Win, win for me. |
Post# 1128269 , Reply# 56   9/10/2021 at 11:00 (1,315 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Hi Louis, That [ gasket ] you replaced is just a fiber spacer, the old one would have worked fine, it does not seal anything.
To clean up filthy machines like this we just run old towels through the machines with aggressive amounts of bleach etc, never had one we had to disassemble to get it to stop stinking.
Good luck with your new washer, What happened to your A806 ?
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Post# 1128294 , Reply# 57   9/10/2021 at 15:19 (1,315 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Running endless cycles with bleach would be a terrible waste of hot water, electricity and bleach. And not to mention time. No amount of cycles would ever clean all the areas with mold that I found. Nothing beats elbow grease.
As for the gasket, it was virtually gone, turned mostly to pulp (see prior images).
The Maytag A806 is sitting patiently to be finished. I'll get around to it. Eventually. |
Post# 1128323 , Reply# 58   9/11/2021 at 01:00 (1,315 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1128328 , Reply# 59   9/11/2021 at 02:14 (1,315 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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I wonder how that filthy fill flume could ever get clean by running the washer with old towels and aggressive amounts of bleach.
Louis, I had to check your profile just to confirm my suspicion that you might be a Virgo too. Suppose when we`re at a project we tend to do it right or don`t start it at all. Most of the time I prefer the latter one. LOL |
Post# 1128332 , Reply# 60   9/11/2021 at 05:21 (1,314 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1128346 , Reply# 62   9/11/2021 at 09:05 (1,314 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Hi Robert, thanks. I read somewhere it's always a good idea to replace the pump when you're replacing the belt on these Speed Queens. As I mentioned, it was really hard to turn, even with a pair of needle nose pliers. Plus the genuine Speed Queen ones are relatively inexpensive.
I also cleaned out the inlet hose from the tub with of all things a long refrigerator coil brush. As suspected a lot of foul smelling bits and pieces of mold came out. Might as well do the discharge hose next. The new pump isn't scheduled to arrive until Monday.
I have to add changing the belt on the Speed Queen was the easiest I've ever done with the exception of the Maytag A50. |
Post# 1128353 , Reply# 63   9/11/2021 at 11:33 (1,314 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Louie all you have to do to change the belt is remove the pump? Then what? Mike |
Post# 1128379 , Reply# 64   9/11/2021 at 18:37 (1,314 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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After you remove the pump, you disengage the spring with the orange sheath. That loosens the tension pulley and you merely slip the belt off. You can also push the pulley outward without unhooking the spring but I prefer the former. The tension pulley is located on the right hand side between the drive pulleys. |
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Post# 1128397 , Reply# 68   9/11/2021 at 23:04 (1,314 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Thanks Louie, Your machine looks great! Best of luck! Mike |
Post# 1128399 , Reply# 69   9/11/2021 at 23:22 (1,314 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1128527 , Reply# 70   9/13/2021 at 10:03 (1,312 days old) by GusHerb ![]() |
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Wow, that things never seen a hot or warm wash a day in its life. Happy to see it cleaned up and used properly very soon. And that reminds me, I gotta order a belt for mine…It’s hit that 6 year mark but I’ve just been leaving well enough alone… |
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Post# 1128610 , Reply# 72   9/14/2021 at 00:43 (1,312 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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The water pump is in finally. Apparently the 2 rear stanchions were a tiny bit too long for the rear clips to snap into place. I had to very carefully sand down the stanchions. Now the rear clips fit tightly. The left rear clip proved to be especially daunting since it was all by feel and my hand could barely fit. My hands are covered with scratches and cuts but I am happy. Its over. Tomorrow I do a test wash to make sure everything is working as it should.
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Post# 1128657 , Reply# 73   9/14/2021 at 15:22 (1,311 days old) by nmassman44 ![]() |
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Amazing work cleaning up this washer! This washer should be the poster child for ...THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU WASH EXCLUSIVELY IN COLD WATER and show the pics. I am sure that P&G's Tide push to wash in cold water would love to see these pics. That said , I can't even imagine what the laundry smelled like when it came out of this washer. I have never seen anything like this in a top loader, I can see a front loader, but a top load washer, no.
One thing that I noticed that was missing from the underside of the wash basket is the filter. There should have been a hat shaped looking lint filter there, unless Alliance is no longer putting one there much like what other manufacturers are leaving out of thier machines. |
Post# 1128682 , Reply# 74   9/14/2021 at 20:40 (1,311 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Awesome job Louie! Well worth the effort in my opinion. I wish you years of good luck with your new machine! Mike |
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Thanks Mike! I have no idea on whether this machine ever came with a lint filter. I haven't seen any, and I suspect I am the first one to ever disassemble the tub. Believe it or not, the odor is still there. Very faint, hopefully with a few more test washes the smell will go away completely. I've cleaned or replaced every component water circulated through, not to mention cleaned areas where water never touched.
The song and dance I got from the seller was that they redid the laundry and only had room afterwards for a stacked set. But I am certain, as you, that the clothes must have been coming out stinking and with many black particles of mold and grime. I can only imagine the mold growing in their new front loader now. |
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Post# 1128708 , Reply# 79   9/15/2021 at 01:29 (1,311 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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Plus more praise for hard work done cleaning up machine.
Whiff of mold/mildew can be difficult to erase even with through cleaning and sanitizing. Things just become deeply embedded in porous materials making deep down and total eradication difficult. Am adding my voice to others suggesting with frequent hot water washes along with healthy dosing of bleach, whiff should die down on its own in due time. Keeping lid open allowing good air flow should likely help I shouldn't wonder. |
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![]() 9/14/2021, CNN-Underscored -- How -- and how often -- to wash sheets and comforters, according to experts (who all tout cold washing for everything) |
Post# 1128732 , Reply# 82   9/15/2021 at 09:38 (1,310 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1128743 , Reply# 86   9/15/2021 at 10:58 (1,310 days old) by appnut ![]() |
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The perfect example of what happens to a washer when every cycle is cold is the washer poor Louie had to rehab and reconstruct. It's disgusting. I hope some day all this dillusional crap causes significant dermatological issues and people spend thousands on dermatologist visits to counteract their skin diseases thanks to poor laundry habits. Me, I use as hot a water temperature for my laundry and kitchenware as appropriate and needed for the situation.
Cold clean stupidity!!! Next thing you know, we'll be cold cleaning dishware and laboratory items and all hospitals. |
Post# 1128744 , Reply# 87   9/15/2021 at 11:01 (1,310 days old) by foraloysius ![]() |
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"Elks says that people should own at least two sets of sheets to increase longevity."
Ofcourse dear, twice as long I suspect. lol "Protein stains like sweat, which are common on sheets, are best treated with an enzymatic stain remover, like Zout, while Shout is best for food and drink stains, like chocolate or coffee." So washing in cold water doesn't really work... |
Post# 1128767 , Reply# 88   9/15/2021 at 18:46 (1,310 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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Difference is front loading washing machines with built in heaters long have been norm in Europe. You also have 208v-240v electrical wiring to supply enough power for fast heating of water. On this side of pond top loading washing machines in all forms have long dominated, and they don't have built in heating. Hot water is what comes out of the taps, and even then that could be 120F or maybe 140F. American housewives and others doing laundry here largely abandoned boiling water on wash day when semi or fully automatic washing machines arrived. Much of this can be traced to love affair Americans have with chlorine bleach. That substance covers up a multitude of wash day sins. Rise of modern fabrics and increased use of colors and dark hues have made chlorine bleach a no go. Energy policy in USA since 1970's has pushed turning down water heaters to 120F...so there you are... |
Post# 1128802 , Reply# 90   9/16/2021 at 03:30 (1,309 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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We`ll never know for sure what led to this kind of build up.
Apart form constant cold water washing which most likely seems to be the culprit it could have been the result of home made "detergent" made from borax and soap flakes or even from constant underdosing of a good detergent in warmer water by misjudging the soil level or for fear of some suds in the last rinse. As to why those CNN "experts" recommend cold water washing for sheets and the difference of laundry recommendations in different countries I think there is a lot of political propaganda involved which is not always as obvious to the public as it should be. All governments have environmental and energy departments and then there`s all this lobbying from all kinds of groups like clothes retailers, detergent industry, textile industry, appliance manufacturers and so on. Anyone of them wants something from the government and in turn has to give something. For instance in parts of Europe we`ve had what is called a "voluntary agreement" of the detergent industry to go without phosphates in laundry detergents even though the use was not outlawed yet. I think care labels and laundry recommendations have gone a similar path. |
Post# 1128813 , Reply# 91   9/16/2021 at 06:48 (1,309 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Yes we will never know precisely what led to this mess, as service techs we see it fairly often and often in otherwise immaculate very nice expensive homes.
It seems that the customer is almost always using Free&Clear type detergents because they always say that their husbands etc are allergic to the perfumes in laundry products, we always laugh about that because the washer is full of mold which is much more likely to cause allergic reactions than a little perfume.
On this particular SQ washer the water supply might have been part of the problem, to have mold in the fill flume might indicate that it was on well water or a home system where they were removing the chlorine, we have customers that have such systems and we have done service calls where they have heavy accumulations of mold clogging the dispenser drawers on there machines etc.
I am glad you got this machine Louis I think you will enjoy it, yes us appliance guys go a little overboard cleaning things up.
Other than cleaning up under the tub cover and the top of the outer tub etc this washer would have cleaned itself up fairly quickly with proper use, we see. machines this bad all the time.
For the record it did not need a new pump or belt at this age, yes the belt showed some wear but it is not a Tre on your car where it could fail on the highway and cause a real problem, the washer will not work any better with the new belt or water pump.
When installing a new pump the pump clips are sometimes hard to get on, if you slightly straighten them and put a lint bit of lubricant on the tabs they will go on easily, I would not sand down a new water pump. [ and always wear gloves to protect your hands and get a tetanus shot every 5 years ]
Let us know how you like the washer, if it was my laundry room I would keep the Kenmore you have it is a better performer other than the SQs slightly faster spin.
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Post# 1128832 , Reply# 92   9/16/2021 at 14:20 (1,309 days old) by BlockEight88 ![]() |
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I dont think it is meant as Free and Clear alone....but what you will find going into certain homes....F&C and machine set to COLD....and then you find a machine like this, you look around, and not hard to figure out where the problem has started...
as most people go for this thinking that it is Free and Clear of fragrance and dyes....and not exactly true, sometimes a certain dye is added to offset the color to make it more clear, and fragrance is added to cover up the true chemical smell of the raw mixture...otherwise it would smell more like petroleum... they have people so brainwashed into using cold water for washing.....I was thankful with my first FLer, a chance to wash just about everything in hot/warm without killing half my water tank supply for one fill, AND a warm rinse......for real, how much hot water are you using for a FL machine, 2 or 3 gallons tops....an HE or FL machine is efficient on its own versus a TL..... but we have seen the pros and cons of washing in Hot/Warm versus Cold only.... |
Post# 1128870 , Reply# 95   9/16/2021 at 22:37 (1,309 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Exactly. Do you bathe in cold water, wash dishes in cold water? |
Post# 1128872 , Reply# 96   9/16/2021 at 22:46 (1,309 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Guilty as charged. I love the smell of chlorine bleach. One cup and bath towels stay fresh for several wash cycles. |
Post# 1128877 , Reply# 97   9/17/2021 at 02:24 (1,309 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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is marketed to a certain group of consumers who either have or just imagine to have a very sensitive skin or who are indeed badly allergic to some detergent scents.
I think this group of consumers is more prone to disrespect (cut down) the recommended dose than others. A little bit of residual suds in the last rinse which is absolutely normal when washing a porous material like cotton with man made surfactants is not what this group of consumers wants to see. So John`s remark makes perfect sense to me, there`s more laundry sins out there that lead to a nasty washer than just cold water washing alone. |
Post# 1128880 , Reply# 98   9/17/2021 at 03:03 (1,308 days old) by foraloysius ![]() |
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There seem to be some misconceptions about allergies etc. in this thread. There is no such thing as an allergy for scents because there are no allergens involved. In case of an oversensitivity for scents, the problems is that certain scents irritate the receptors in the nose and in the lungs too much. Especially triggering the receptors in the lungs can lead to asthma attacks if you have non-allergic asthma. BTW It's not that long ago that it was discovered that you don't only smell with your nose, but also with your lungs.
If you respond to allergens, for instance mould, dust, pet skin cells etc. you can have allergic asthma. That's a different thing. People with allergic asthma get their asthma attacks from allergens, but not per se from scents. That can only happen when you have both forms of asthma. I'm "lucky" to have hit both jackpots. So I know something about this. Misconception #1 is that mould would always cause a more serious reaction than scents. That's not necessarily true. Misconception #2 is that people who buy Free & Clear products don't use enough detergent because of allergens/sensitivities. We buy that stuff so we can use enough. And most people with allergens or sensitivities don't use fabric softener because we know that's a much bigger problem than detergent. Besides that, when I was diagnosed with asthma, I was also taught how to wash (if possible always at 60C or 140F, use enough detergent and enough rinses, about dedicated detergents etc.) and dry (no indoors line drying unless you ventilate enough which was about the same as outside line drying) etc. I don't know how it is in the USA, but in the Netherlands people with allergies and asthma get educated about how important it is to handle laundry well in order to keep allergies in control. Dr Louis has spoken. lol. End of rant! |
Post# 1128883 , Reply# 99   9/17/2021 at 03:40 (1,308 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Louis how do you explain that EU regulations requires labeling of certain scent allergens like citral, linalool, limonene, Butylphenyl methylpropional (lilial) and so on if they exceed a certain amount in a product, if there is no such thing as an allergy to scents?
With all due respect I think you`re confusing your oversensivity of the respiratory system or systemic oversensivities like scent triggered headaches with an allergic reaction of the skin which is a different kind of thing. AFAIK any of the above mentioned can cause severe contact allergies on the skin if somebody is allergic to. |
Post# 1128885 , Reply# 100   9/17/2021 at 04:21 (1,308 days old) by foraloysius ![]() |
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Sounds to me that the EU lawmakers are a bit confused. I'll link a Wikipedia article about allergens.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen... Interesting especially is the definition of antigen: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigen... Most allergens are actually protein based you could say. In practice you could simplify it by saying that when you go away from something you are sensitive for, the reaction disappears rather fast. With an allergy the reaction can continue longer. |
Post# 1128887 , Reply# 101   9/17/2021 at 05:04 (1,308 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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The EU still defines the stuff as allergenic substances even if they might be considered just sensitizing substances on closer inspection.
Didn`t mean to gerneralize or hurt your or anyone`s feelings when I said that the consumer group who prefers F&C detergents also seems more prone to underdose than others. You have to consider that not everybody has the same access to a first class health system as you have in the Netherlands where doctors get paid for and take the time to explain the importance of proper washing habits to allergy sufferers or other oversensitive patients. Others, even well educated folks might just think less is better and end up with a washer like this Speed Queen which by judging the look of the outside doesn`t appear to have come from an otherwise run down household at all. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mrboilwash's LINK This post was last edited 09/17/2021 at 05:30 |
Post# 1128890 , Reply# 102   9/17/2021 at 06:16 (1,308 days old) by foraloysius ![]() |
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![]() Someone on another discussion board years ago said their SQ dealer advised to use 1 to 2 teaspoons in a frontloader for the largest loads and that absolutely no suds should be seen. TLs weren't the topic so dosage wasn't mentioned for them but likly the same no-suds parameter would be the target. I continuously run across people, both so-called experts (including a servicer) and users, who tout as per this link as an example. CLICK HERE TO GO TO DADoES's LINK |
Post# 1128933 , Reply# 104   9/17/2021 at 17:22 (1,308 days old) by Yogitunes ![]() |
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Louie....
dont know about the Listerine trick on a washing machine.....but it has worked wonders on the window air conditioners....mine now have the brightest fins and the freshest scent when running.... probably start another thread for this, but window A/C's seem to be building up mold inside lately, in thinking it is part of using so much Styrofoam inside versus metal? ... never had this in the older units... |
Post# 1128934 , Reply# 105   9/17/2021 at 17:40 (1,308 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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No matter how expensive the unit. Styrofoam is the main reasons A/C units get moldy. I used to wipe the inside of my units with bleach. Mike |
Post# 1128948 , Reply# 106   9/17/2021 at 22:00 (1,308 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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We had one of the wettest summers I can recall. Lots of cloudy days and little wind in between the tropical storms, floods and tornados. Raining right now as matter of fact.. |
Post# 1128990 , Reply# 107   9/18/2021 at 09:30 (1,307 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Oh thanks Martin. I will definitely try it on the air conditioners.
Forgot to mention, the drain hose was really bad in terms of mold. Not bits or pieces, but CHUNKS of black, tar like mold spilled out. It took many bleach/hot water soaks, and ammonia/hot water soaks to get most of it out. The hose is translucent, so you could see the areas where mold had accumulated. If I had known all the work that this would entail, I would had simply bought a new drain hose.
The Speed Queen is installed now, I'm going to run one final wash/rinse with Affresh. Then depending on the results, comes the maiden wash. |
Post# 1129015 , Reply# 108   9/18/2021 at 13:24 (1,307 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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It seems I ordered a bad pump. When the washer engages the pump lets out a high pitch whine like an unsatisfied bottom. It diminishes after awhile, and stops altogether once the washer goes into drain/spin. The cycle works normally.
The part I ordered was #201566P. The updated replacement pump model is #205217P. They look identical.
I knew something was off when it was impossible to engage the 2 rear mounting clips. I ordered the updated pump now. Oh yeah, the stink is GONE!
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Post# 1129018 , Reply# 109   9/18/2021 at 13:46 (1,307 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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There is talk Speed Queen plans on discontinuing their front load washers. If you go to their website, you will notice the animation ONLY features top loaders. Somethings afoot me thinks. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Ultramatic's LINK |
Post# 1129051 , Reply# 110   9/18/2021 at 19:59 (1,307 days old) by BlockEight88 ![]() |
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Louis, can you post a video on what the pump is doing? I am curious to the sound it makes. Thanks
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Post# 1129052 , Reply# 111   9/18/2021 at 20:31 (1,307 days old) by Yogitunes ![]() |
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Post# 1129080 , Reply# 112   9/19/2021 at 09:53 (1,306 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1129083 , Reply# 113   9/19/2021 at 10:34 (1,306 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Louie. Here is the response I got from SQ. No products are being discontinued……. Mike
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Post# 1129140 , Reply# 114   9/20/2021 at 11:02 (1,305 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() Reply # 108, There is NO difference between the two PT #s you posted, both are completely interchangeable, it sounds like a tiny foreign particle was stuck in the impeller [ maybe from filing down the pump mountings ] which worked itself out and went down the drain, so there is probably no reason to buy yet another pump and throw more plastic into landfill.
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Post# 1129147 , Reply# 115   9/20/2021 at 12:54 (1,305 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1129676 , Reply# 117   9/26/2021 at 16:06 (1,299 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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The new pump arrived. Turns out the pump I had installed before was a COUNTERFEIT. Not a genuine Alliance part. No wonder it did not fit, nor performed well. Since it was purchased via Amazon, I'll be getting a full refund. I also alerted Amazon about this seller. Fake water pumps. How do you like them apples?
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Post# 1129687 , Reply# 118   9/26/2021 at 17:44 (1,299 days old) by Launderess ![]() |
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Post# 1129707 , Reply# 119   9/27/2021 at 01:59 (1,299 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1129760 , Reply# 120   9/27/2021 at 15:24 (1,298 days old) by combo52 ![]() |
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![]() In my reply #91 I did not say that Free & Clear type detergents cause mold , I said that many of our customers that use F&C products say they do because they are sensitive or allergic to scents in detergents etc and the irony is they are often the ones that have washers that are full of mold and gunk from poor washing practices which is far more likely to cause allergic reactions than scents in detergents that millions of people have no problems with.
The F&C products are no more likely to cause mold and gunk than regular detergents.
John L.
As to imitation appliance parts, DON'T use them unless there is no alternative.
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Post# 1129772 , Reply# 121   9/27/2021 at 16:46 (1,298 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Post# 1129804 , Reply# 124   9/27/2021 at 23:53 (1,298 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Hi Douglas,
The packaging was a plain box, just some code printed on it. That immediately raised an eyebrow. I already got my refund, but I sure had a hard time installing it. Funny, most of the reviews on the product were good. But then again I read somewhere ratings on Amazon tend to be questionable at best. |
Post# 1129807 , Reply# 125   9/28/2021 at 06:39 (1,297 days old) by Yogitunes ![]() |
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thats the thing with reviews, what they dont tell you is the credibility/sanity of the person posting....
you have people posting who have absolutely no clue of what their talking about....seems like people rely on the stupidity of others, which can be scary!...hence the creation of Consumers Report Magazine! |
Post# 1129819 , Reply# 126   9/28/2021 at 10:44 (1,297 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I've notice sometimes the reviews on Amazon are not for the exact item they are listed under. You could have been seeing reviews for a genuine Speed Queen part since the seller was advertising it as such. |
Post# 1130565 , Reply# 127   10/6/2021 at 18:44 (1,289 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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Louie Where’s the video of the maiden wash? I feel like a red headed step child waiting! LOL Mike |
Post# 1130571 , Reply# 128   10/6/2021 at 18:57 (1,289 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Funny, I just finished it today. I am currently uploading it to YouTube. As soon as it is done, I will post the link. This post was last edited 10/06/2021 at 19:13 |
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Post# 1130596 , Reply# 132   10/7/2021 at 06:20 (1,288 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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Thanks Louis!
Thank you Mike!
Would I do this over again? In a heartbeat. Yes, it was frustrating at times what with the water pump, and the time it took to get parts but ultimately it paid off. I am happy with it's performance and fast wash cycles. The sound deadening mats really make a difference and I will install them on the Maytag A806 and DE806. Not to mention the KitchenAid KDS-58 is going to get the treatment as well. I tend to run the dishwasher late at night and it's a tad too noisy.
Thanks everyone for the advise and encouragement. |
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Hey thanks Barry. So far I have been very happy with the results. It seems to perform better than the Kenmore Elite I had before it.
As for detergents, for this particular load of underwear I used Gain, Lysol and Suavitel. On occasion I'll use bleach and for stains, Spray 'n Wash. |
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Late to the party, but your Speed Queen will be there, day and night, rain and shine. |
Post# 1207823 , Reply# 138   6/21/2024 at 14:57 (300 days old) by kalanikaau1 ![]() |
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I see where you added KilMat panels to your washer, I've a case of the stuff lying around (it was intended for another project) and am considering applying the mats to the inside cabinet of a Speed Queen top loader I am currently refreshing on all 4 sides.
My machine is probably the current TC5's "father", a machine not known for it's silent operation. What percentage would you estimate that the noise level was reduced on your machine? |
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Post# 1207911 , Reply# 140   6/22/2024 at 22:03 (299 days old) by Ultramatic ![]() |
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It seems the Speed Queen has developed a slow cold water fill. First thing was to check the cold water hose filter, it was dirty, cleaned it and the cold water pressure increased, but only slightly. The water lines to the washer are brand new PEX-A. I am beginning to suspect the water inlet valve may be going bad. I'll check it with a multi-meter. I hope the issue is not with the control board. |
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We used to have an older KitchenAid (Whirlpool) top loader at the firehouse for washing our personal laundry, when replacing the drive coupling once I noticed that it had sound insulation pads strategically placed within the cabinet, the unit was significantly quieter than other Whirlpool washers I've used.
Shown here is the front panel of a SQ LWN432SP115TW01 top load washer I am currently refreshing, the panel is awaiting being painted. I, like you have a OCD disorder of sorts, however I have 2 boxes of this sound insulation laying around, what better use than to quiet a known raucous machine? The only drawback is that it adds significantly to the already not so demure weight of 200 pounds to the machine...
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Post# 1207922 , Reply# 142   6/23/2024 at 06:07 (298 days old) by Combo52 ![]() |
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Hi Louie, if the valve is trying to let cold water in, you can’t do anything with A multimeter, you have a bad inlet valve. I assume you checked the flow by taking the cold water, inlet hose, and directed it into the tub of the washer and turning it on full force if there’s great force there you have a Bad bad valve.
We have sound insulated many washing machines and dryers. It can make a good machine really pleasing to have around, Jason and I got into a competition with Jon from Boston after Jon added insulation to his 1to18 Frigidaire washer went a few steps further and have one that is almost silent, we added 40 pounds of insulation to the front panel alone we sealed nearly every seam and we even put a sound insulating block all the way around the bottom of the machine just inside the edge. This was a technique that Maytag used on the Norgetag machines. We also added a foam seal around the edge of the lid to keep noise inside the machine, when Jon C got to see our handiwork, he complained that he could still hear the timer motor, lol I like the dynamite stuff you’re using, but I find it also helps to add a lot of weight to the panels. I’ve often use thick semi-flexible vinyl flooring, etc. and glue and tape that to the inside of the panels adding a lot of weight really dampens the noise when you knock on the front of this machine with your hand. It sounds more like fine furniture than a tiny metal box. We also added a lot of very thin foam weatherstripping to the edges of the panels to keep noise in the machine. John |
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