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Thread Number: 88326
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Tide or Gain Non-HE Detergent? |
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| Post# 1128914 9/17/2021 at 14:10 (949 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
Where is the non-HE detergent? I can't seem to find anything but HE, expect walmart, but I'm not sure if this has the old original formula that would suds more.
Also what's up with the dousing instructions on these HE detergents? They want you to fill to line 1 for a "medium load", line 3 for a large load, then line 5 for an "HE full load". Not sure I understand makes a full HE load. Ultimately, I am just looking for non-HE tide or Gain. www.walmart.com/ip/Tide-O... | ||
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Post# 1128955 , Reply# 1 9/17/2021 at 23:12 (949 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Can't be sure, but IIRC all versions of Tide detergents sold nowadays are "HE" formulas. You may find old stock of non-HE lying about spare, but again don't know for sure if P&G still makes non-HE laundry detergents.
Tide was heavily dinged in all sorts of reviews as front loaders and other "HE" machines started making inroads to American homes. Both liquid and powder formats were just too sudsy, creating mountains of froth. Early versions of Tide "HE" were not much better. Tried the stuff once and even with a few tablespoons came much froth, and was difficult to rinse. That people were willing to spend far more on German detergents like Persil told P&G something I shouldn't wonder. As federal government continues to make it clear days of water guzzling top loaders are over if not totally done, P&G had to make changes to stop Tide from slipping in sales. Whole "HE" thing is a con, something P&G is well aware. In Europe where front loading/HE washers have long dominated there isn't such a thing as high efficacy detergents. Everything is low foaming and that's that. You can maybe find things meant for hand or tub washing, but they are niche markets. | ||
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Post# 1128978 , Reply# 2 9/18/2021 at 04:38 (949 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Should have added | ||
| Post# 1128984 , Reply# 3 9/18/2021 at 08:41 (949 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Post# 1128986 , Reply# 4 9/18/2021 at 09:02 (949 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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It does seem regardless if "HE" is on package all versions of Tide are high efficiency.
tide.com/en-us/how-to-wash-cloth... That being said just checked Walmart, and it does seem as if they sell a non HE version of Tide, so either stand corrected or P&G is pulling some sort of fast one. www.walmart.com/ip/Tide-O... www.businesswire.com/news/home/2...—HE-Turbo-Clean™ | ||
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Post# 1128993 , Reply# 5 9/18/2021 at 09:47 (949 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ) |
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line 5 for an "HE full load" I noticed that on my current bottle of non-HE Tide liquid. I assumed it was a typo. I would think that HE front-load machine would choke on "line 5" worth of this detergent. | ||
| Post# 1128994 , Reply# 6 9/18/2021 at 10:05 (949 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Post# 1128998 , Reply# 7 9/18/2021 at 10:45 (948 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1129010 , Reply# 9 9/18/2021 at 11:28 (948 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Has anyone tried Tide All Purpose detergent in their washer? It's intended for floors, walls, and dishes, but I don't know if it's high sudsing or not. | ||
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Post# 1129012 , Reply# 10 9/18/2021 at 12:46 (948 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ) |
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I find the Tide Original non-HE liquid to have much less suds than it used to, but it still cleans up a storm in my Maytag A606. | ||
| Post# 1129014 , Reply# 11 9/18/2021 at 13:21 (948 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Ken | ||
| Post# 1129043 , Reply# 13 9/18/2021 at 18:25 (948 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Post# 1129059 , Reply# 15 9/18/2021 at 21:36 (948 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Tide All Purpose Floor Cleaner
Shouldn't in the wash if I were you..
Comparing SDS between floor cleaner and laundry detergent there are some major differences. media3.cleanfreak.com/documents/... algoma.msdsworld.com/msds/English... Floor cleaner contains far more soda ash and less to nil of surfactants (anionic). This makes sense as you want something not so necessarily foamy for washing floors, walls, etc... and will either rinse cleanly if that is needed at all. Higher pH will act instead to cut grease and grime (like using ammonia for cleaning). | ||
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Post# 1129060 , Reply# 16 9/18/2021 at 21:44 (948 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Basically most if not all versions of Tide liquid or powder laundry detergent start from same "mother" formula. Things are then added to create the various dozens of variations (scented, unscented, color, with or without "Downy", etc...).
Keeping that in mind it just seems natural P&G sooner or later just decided to make one formula for each of their powder or liquid laundry detergents, and that one being low foaming. This so no matter whether "HE" is on package or not, the stuff still makes far less forth than Tide of old. Froth isn't needed for good washing. It never, ever was..... First incarnations of Tide were low sudsing. But housewives used to soap avoided the stuff in droves. So P&G reformulated Tide using higher foaming surfactants, and it was off to the races ever since. Top loading automatic washers of old are either going way of the Dodo or soon will meet a similar fate in USA. There just isn't a need for high frothing (and poor rinsing) laundry detergents any longer. | ||
| Post# 1129330 , Reply# 17 9/22/2021 at 19:10 (944 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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Ok question: how does this bottle of tide differ from today's tide?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265160107182QUE... | ||
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Post# 1129333 , Reply# 18 9/22/2021 at 19:33 (944 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Tide never had a "color care" line per se, so those clever chops came up with Tide Total Care....
As with all Tide detergents then the stuff is loaded with OBAs, but also contains various polymers meant to protect fabrics during laundering and when worn. A nice dose of cellulase enzyme chewed off bobbles keeping things smooth looking, and thus by extension colors more vibrant. In general TTC was advertised as helping with seven (7) signs of wear. "Dress to the Sevens every day with Tide Total Care. It goes beyond cleaning to help reveal the 7 signs of beautiful clothes: Clean, Color, Shape, Finish, Softness, Pill Prevention and Stain Fighting" P&G would exploit this same polymer technology in Downy fabric softener version that also promised "total care" of fabrics. Tide Total Care no longer is manufactured from what one can see. When it was things were before a time when Tide liquids were generally low froth (like now). P&G did not recommend using this product in "HE" washers, but their standard response (then) applied; to seek out a detergent clearly marked "HE". pgproductsafety.com/productsafet... www.amazon.com/Tide-Renew... www.amazon.com/Downy-Liquid-Soft... As usual for P&G detergents there is more ways to skin a cat... Consumer Reports found that while yes, TTC did prevent fading and so forth, so did Tide Coldwater which cost less. www.consumerreports.org/v... While P&G has discontinued TTC, there are other products including offerings from Tide, Persil and others that have same or similar polymer and so forth technology who make same or similar claims. Henkel has a whole line of such products under Perwoll "Renew" line. www.germanfoods.shop/Perw... For record sniffed a bottle of TTC back when it was on shelves as though it might be good for dress shirts and cotton knits. The "renewing rain" scent bowled me over so didn't purchase. | ||
| Post# 1129334 , Reply# 19 9/22/2021 at 20:01 (944 days old) by BlockEight88 (Hobart, IN) | ||
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