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Bosch vs AEG - Which one would you choose?
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Post# 1131821   10/24/2021 at 14:38 (216 days old) by henene4 (Emden (Germany))        

The service saga of my grandmas washer is still going on.

The tech was there this week, changed some stuff and the machine still dosen't work.
No surprise - he apparently thought both the water lever sensor and the NTC were broken and tried exchanging both with no result.
Not taking the main board into account appears wild to me.
But I digress.

I'll have to make some calls next week and hope I can get them to just write them off - as I work in the service department of the store chain we bought it from I can see what they already spent on this machine and it's kind of hilarious.




We had an offer going on at work and I actually but an order in for 3 washers.

One reservation is an F6WV710P2S.
While I wouldn't really want that machine I put it in anyways. I can get a cashback on top of the cheap price, so it would be the cheapest option.
It's more of an eventuality back up.


My main contenders are an AEG and a Bosch.

The AEG would be an L8FE86695.
That would be an upper midrange model.
ÖkoMix, 69l drum, 1600rpm.
I really like the featureset. It has the 4 detergent chambers, a recirculation system. Nice cycle selection. The 2 step time saver.
However, it doesn't have a drum light. And she had 2 AEGs in the past 10 years. So not sure if I trust that brand - but the performance so far was always brilliant.

The Bosch (WAX32M10) is on paper pretty similar.
70l drum, 1600rpm, recirculation.
Cycle selection is great to. Options are a bit different. But not worse.
This one has a drum light, but a more limited selection of short cycles.



The machines are pretty much the same on paper.
For what ever reason the AEG scores worse on spinning on the EU data sheet.

It also scores worse on rinsing.
But the AEG has more flexibility in adding rinses. And the SoftPlus feature which could be really nice in the extremely hard water in the area there.


As there are only 2 people living there the drums are overkill on either.
So load sensing is an issue - but both seem tied on that aswell.
Both have 2-step sensing.

With my grandma only getting sicker with time to come more larger items might be a topic.
So the downs cycle on the AEG could be nice.




It's really a draw on either side on my mind.

I might not even have to make choice - the AEG has a delivery date at the end of the month and I'll have to make the purchase by the 4th as I'm driving home on the 5th.
Knowing my place of work it might not arrive in time.


But just in case, I'd like any input or thoughts!


Post# 1131825 , Reply# 1   10/24/2021 at 15:21 (216 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        
why still talking about Aeg?

I don't understand why people still talks about Aeg. Aeg no longer exist. Is it just a label on an Electrolux machines that make them Aeg?

Post# 1131826 , Reply# 2   10/24/2021 at 15:27 (216 days old) by henene4 (Emden (Germany))        
Cause it's an AEG

People still talk about Siemens, even though it's part of the BSH company.
Same with Neff, Gaggenau etc.

People talk about Fisher&Paykel even though they are owned by Haier.



Yes it is part of the ELux company.

Still the model in question is an AEG.
There is no Electrolux L8FE86695.

There might be an equivalent - but not available in Germany.


Post# 1131851 , Reply# 3   10/24/2021 at 21:41 (215 days old) by bewitched (Italy)        

it's not the same thing. neff is still on it's own even if it is controlled by bsh and this applies to many other brands as asko etc but aeg it's simply a commercial brand owned by electrolux. nothing about today aeg has to do with the real aeg. just like telefunken brand who is now a simply label on turkish product and nothing has to do with the real telefunken.

Post# 1131859 , Reply# 4   10/25/2021 at 02:59 (215 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
I am partial...

...but I would always choose AEG/Electrolux over BSH.

For twenty years all my appliances have been AEG/Electrolux, and I have never had any really bad experience. Functions are good for my needs, and build quality is not bad either.

I think you should also consider how good the assistance is in your area.

Most AEG/Electrolux washing machines and dishwashers are still made in Italy, I have heard that Bosch washing machines are made in China, but not sure.

The worst thing about AEG/Electrolux is that they advertise features their products do not have (I don't know whether it is intentional or just a misunderstanding between marketing and engineering departments) and the "Öko-Mix valve" in one of them: my washing machine (the top of the line of Electrolux when I bough it) does not have anything like an "Öko-Mix valve", my first dishwasher (again, top of the line Electrolux) did not have any "pulse wash" and my Electrolux microwave does not have any "returntable" function.


Post# 1131946 , Reply# 5   10/26/2021 at 03:17 (214 days old) by mieleforever (SOUTH AFRICA)        

I would also suggest AEG/Electrolux,

As my experience with Bosch/Siemens these days have left me a bit underwhelmed. We bought a new Siemens dishwasher last year - to replace our old Siemens - but it really does not wash good. The washing results have been average - if you don't use top of the line tablets the results are rather poor.

So I could be that with all these new regulations some results will have to be sacrificed - for instance in Eco mode (50 degree celsius) it will take 3 and a half hours for a cycle to complete.

But it must be said that it is rather quiet and very stingy with water use.

Another example would be my cordless drill which is also a Bosch - its about three years old and was not really used very much - and now it intermittently will just not work and flash all of its led's even though the battery is fully charged.

Bosch really is letting its quality go down the drain. Because building good quality products just does not makes economical sense for them, I suppose.

So perhaps try AEG.



Post# 1132100 , Reply# 6   10/27/2021 at 19:06 (212 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        

I think some of the mid-range BSH machines come from Poland. And I dare say that only the top end machines will be assembled in Germany.


As for AEG, these days, I equate them as being merely Zanussi in disguise. Electrolux as a brand, has managed to disappear from the general marketplace, as far as I can see. No longer a household name as it once was.


Post# 1132182 , Reply# 7   10/28/2021 at 11:10 (212 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
Electrolux brands

Electrolux periodically change their brand strategy. At the moment the Electrolux brand is promoted on the Northern-European countries and in Italy and France (I am surely missing some) while instead here in Germany only the AEG brand is used

Post# 1132769 , Reply# 8   11/5/2021 at 16:38 (204 days old) by henene4 (Emden (Germany))        
So they fixed it against all odds

They had to put in both a new PCB plus a new motor controller.
And a new pressure switch as well as NTC.

Total for parts without the 3 visits must have been more than the machine was worth.

No idea why they were so focused on getting it fixed.
It would probably have been cheaper to just give us our money back.
So what, it runs again at last!


Post# 1133584 , Reply# 9   11/15/2021 at 06:32 (194 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

donprohel

AEG/ELectrolux washing machines are made in Poland not Italy. They have not been made in Italy for quite a few years now.


Post# 1133586 , Reply# 10   11/15/2021 at 06:43 (194 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

bewitched,

Does it really matter though? At the end of the day, it still says AEG, so we are going to refer it as AEG. In the UK, we do not have Electrolux, we have AEG mainly. Zanussi and John Lewis (made by Electrolux and looks like an AEG).

I have a Citroen with Peugeot parts inside and a Peugeot Chassis. I am not going to start calling it a Peugeot. A Siemens is basically the same as Bosch because BSH own both of them. Same engineering and parts.


Post# 1133605 , Reply# 11   11/15/2021 at 11:46 (194 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian)        
AEG/Electrolux made in...

Sorry, aeg03, but at least the TOL models of AEG and Electrolux washing machines and dishwashers are actually made in Italy, unless they made them in Italy for me only...


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