Thread Number: 88766
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Old dishwasher detergent, still sealed |
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Post# 1133038 , Reply# 1   11/9/2021 at 05:45 (870 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1133155 , Reply# 3   11/10/2021 at 06:34 (869 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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In most local jurisdictions sanitation of dish, glass and silver ware used by public is spelled out by laws and or code. Nearly universally two options are offered; sanitation via temperature (which would include holding time), or chemicals.
Most places choose chemicals which accounts for strong chlorine smell often wafting from commercial dishwashers of all sorts. Chlorine beach was long part of automatic dishwashing detergents (both domestic and commercial/industrial) for a few reasons. Mainly besides sanitation (chlorine bleach is still the gold standard by which other chemicals are judged), chlorine bleach destroys proteins. This is why you aren't supposed to use it on things like wool or silk. It also explains why drain cleaners and clog removers today are rather heavy on chlorine bleach. Commercial/industrial dishwashers are largely sanitiziers. That is often things have been already well scrapped, pre-rinsed if not washed before going into machine. Thus enzymes while having revolutionzed domestic automatic dishwashing, largely aren't part of commercial/industrial setting. Cycles just are too fast... You do find enzyme presoaks for flatware and other things, and there is a push to get places to use dishwashers that use less water. But also on flip side if much of the pre-rinsing/washing is eliminated or lessened, water use would decrease as well. Only chlorine based automatic dishwasher detergent have seen lately are the gel versions of Cascade or Electrasol. Don't know if either are still around. |
Post# 1138516 , Reply# 7   1/5/2022 at 15:36 (813 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 1138577 , Reply# 8   1/6/2022 at 08:48 (812 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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The thing is also that I see a lot of people today pre rinsing if not directly pre washing stuff, this is because they do not obtain acceptable results otherwise and or find this is the best solution.
This is also partially due to the fact many do not actually want to wait hours or they feel like those cycles must be too strong and perhaps energy consuming (based on being used to their older ones) and to chose quicker cycles (which also happens to be at low temp just like happens for laundry) and just do not have a clue of how things are supposed to work in reality and the differences. With that said I found chlorinated detergents offer a good compromise and are very good both for use in older units and newer units, unlike enzymatic action products that may not offer the same results in older units. Finish recently had to advertise just that on their latest commercials over here. Advising to stop pre rinsing stuff claiming it is an unnecessary waste of water and that is not how dishwashers are supposed to be used. And at the same time advising to choose lower temperatures, which translates into picking endless eco Cycles that takes even more than the already long normal or auto ones and that people generally just won't use for the reasons I mentioned before. So what they do is chosing the quick ones and keep pre washing stuff to be almost totally clean already. This post was last edited 01/06/2022 at 10:01 |
Post# 1138579 , Reply# 9   1/6/2022 at 09:10 (812 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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