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Post# 1133539   11/14/2021 at 17:46 (686 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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In Monroe, LA



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Post# 1133546 , Reply# 1   11/14/2021 at 18:14 (686 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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worth $3000 used.....

Post# 1133556 , Reply# 2   11/14/2021 at 18:32 (686 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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I feel honored to be part of this offer. Here's my measly $400

Post# 1133563 , Reply# 3   11/14/2021 at 20:15 (686 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        


Post# 1133585 , Reply# 4   11/15/2021 at 06:40 (686 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

If this is so great-worth 3K-why are they replacing it and with what???

Post# 1133587 , Reply# 5   11/15/2021 at 06:53 (686 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Warmng Drawer?

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Is that a warming drawer between the microwave and the oven?

Post# 1133588 , Reply# 6   11/15/2021 at 07:08 (686 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        


Post# 1133589 , Reply# 7   11/15/2021 at 07:20 (686 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I think that's very cool

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That oven must have been a big deal in its day.

Post# 1133592 , Reply# 8   11/15/2021 at 09:08 (685 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Yes, they were nice!

I think Ultramatic has posted the magazine add photo for this before. It showed it installed in a living or dining room in a custom wood cabinet.
From when Thermador was still building them in City of Industry Ca.
I like that other native California stove company too, Dacor. They enetered the market after the Apollo program was finished and applied their heat shielding materials to ovens and ranges.

Post# 1133593 , Reply# 9   11/15/2021 at 09:15 (685 days old) by Historian (Owensboro, KY )        

Functionally it would be handy with the warmer drawer but esthetically speaking it doesn't really appeal to me.

Post# 1133601 , Reply# 10   11/15/2021 at 11:14 (685 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Thermador Wall Oven

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These were very good ovens and definitely TOL, We have the same wall oven in the museum kitchen.


This was TDs first MWO design and it even had a 240 browning element, this entire oven was also vented to the outside of the home.


It was a great design and only came in the very good looking black-glass with bruised aluminum trim.


New in the late 70s these were about $2000.


John L.

Post# 1133609 , Reply# 11   11/15/2021 at 14:04 (685 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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And they're Richard Deacon approved

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Post# 1133614 , Reply# 12   11/15/2021 at 17:37 (685 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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That ad copy with the inference it's making wouldn't fly today!

Post# 1133615 , Reply# 13   11/15/2021 at 17:39 (685 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Like Richard was interested, it's more like a look of disdain LOL

Post# 1133616 , Reply# 14   11/15/2021 at 17:46 (685 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Will these even fit in standard double oven cabinetry? If not, it's worth significantly plummets.

Post# 1133617 , Reply# 15   11/15/2021 at 17:48 (685 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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I'm a little slow. Are you saying he would have been more interested in Ward Cleaver rather than June when he played Fred Rutherford on Leave it to Beaver?

Post# 1133618 , Reply# 16   11/15/2021 at 17:53 (685 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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He was gay in real life

Post# 1133619 , Reply# 17   11/15/2021 at 18:09 (685 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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The house where I grew up was built in 1950.  It had a double SS Thermador wall ovens, a Thermador cook top with a griddle, and Thermador vent-a-hood.  My Mom replaced them about 10 years ago only because the ovens went out and the replacement part was no longer available.  So they lasted about 60 years.  I don't ever remember any of them needing repair until then.  Good stuff! 

Post# 1133620 , Reply# 18   11/15/2021 at 18:15 (685 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        

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I'd go for grown up Wally, 2nd from left. Early in covid, bored beyond belief, I watched some 80's "Leave it to Beaver" reunion film. Worse than the Green Acres reunion and worse than Rescue From Gilligan's Island. All watched April 2020, never intend to watch again! There were some long weekends back then.

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Post# 1133625 , Reply# 19   11/15/2021 at 18:42 (685 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Neat Ad

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These TD ovens fit in a standard 24" wall oven cabinet.


John L.

Post# 1133626 , Reply# 20   11/15/2021 at 18:52 (685 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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I saw part of the Green Acres reunion.

Post# 1133627 , Reply# 21   11/15/2021 at 18:53 (685 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
These TD ovens fit in a standard 24" wall oven cabinet.

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Thanks, John.

Post# 1133630 , Reply# 22   11/15/2021 at 19:59 (685 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        
Copy penned by Don Draper himself

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Clearly, every aspect of that ad was conceptualized and tailored exclusively for readers of Playboy.  There is no way that it could have appeared in any other magazine except perhaps Penthouse.

Post# 1133631 , Reply# 23   11/15/2021 at 20:01 (685 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        
That's a good point Dan

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24" wide wall ovens are no longer standard. It's 27" and 30" wide now.

Also, this item above looks unusually tall for a built-in. After all it is 3 ovens stacked. Most cabinets made for built-in wall ovens can be adjusted but not by as much as the picture above shows.

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Post# 1133633 , Reply# 24   11/15/2021 at 20:08 (685 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        
I agree with you Ralph

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"...exclusively for readers of Playboy"

It doesn't look like an ad one would see in Redbook, Ladies Home Journal, or TV Guide.

Post# 1133635 , Reply# 25   11/15/2021 at 20:53 (685 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Actually I don't think it's much taller than a standard double oven; the configuration gives it the illusion of height.


As for oven cabinets, most lines have versions either with no bottom drawer (blank panel), or shorter doors at the top. Any of the better manufacturers make them to specifications, and have lots of modifications that can be made. For example, I have a download of the Fieldstone Cabinetry Specification Guide, and it has over 700 pages. So getting a cabinet to acomodate it wouldn't be a problem.

Post# 1133636 , Reply# 26   11/15/2021 at 21:05 (685 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

Hey Bradfordwhite!
Then why do all the major US maker STILL offer 24" ovens? Can you explain that?

Post# 1133640 , Reply# 27   11/15/2021 at 21:36 (685 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
24" Wall Ovens Are Still Very Much In Vogue

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In fact its about all that is sold in much of the world.


24" models are more energy efficient and pre-heat faster as well.


John L.

Post# 1133642 , Reply# 28   11/15/2021 at 21:44 (685 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        

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As replacements. People remodeling or building new would most likely want something with features like a rotisserie and air fry features. Plus a certain "look".

GE does offer 24" but they are nothing special. They all have the same bland plastic looking control panel.

Frigidaire only offers 1 single door oven in 2 colors.

Whirlpool offers 1 model in 2 colors.

Jennaire offers 2 single door models in 2 diff colors. One is a specialty steam oven for $3K more likely intended for undercounter.

And the outrageous prices.... OMG!

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Post# 1133646 , Reply# 29   11/15/2021 at 21:49 (685 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        
John L.

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"24" models are more energy efficient and pre-heat faster as well."
I agree with you 100% there.

However "vogue" .... not so much. Not in the U.S. market and that's what we're focusing on here.

I didn't organize the manufacturers priorities.

If you want an oven with a custom look and more features you'll be looking at a 27" or a 30". That's where the manufacturer's put all their attention.

Post# 1133657 , Reply# 30   11/16/2021 at 07:02 (685 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
24" Wall Ovens Are Still Very Much In Vogue

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Hi Brad, how many ovens did you find with rotisseries ?, Air fry is just relabeled convection.


I agree that new ovens don't offer much, none self-clean well, non offer microwave cooking along with full heat and broil and all use more energy than ovens built 20 or more years ago.


I am keeping my 24" double Thermador-Convection Micro-Thermal ovens, I use them almost every day in the micro thermal convection mode, and if something awful happens to this one I have a spare one stashed away.


John L.

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Post# 1133774 , Reply# 31   11/17/2021 at 09:38 (683 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I always thought

Fed Rutherford was Lumpy's dad.

Post# 1133808 , Reply# 32   11/17/2021 at 17:11 (683 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Fred Rutherford was Clarence "Lumpy" Rutherfords dad.

Post# 1134053 , Reply# 33   11/20/2021 at 15:06 (680 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)        

My aunt had a 70s Thermador double oven. I thought as a kid it was so cool that the ovens vented to the outside. She had a Frigidaire early smooth cooktop with Tradewind hood, and a Kitchenaid Hobart dishwasher and trash compactor. She remodeled the kitchen several years ago and I don't know what the appliances were replaced with. I know she still has the same hood.

Another thing that to me that I liked about Thermador was the distinctive pattern in the interior oven porcelain. I remember seeing that pattern in the ovens on Julia Child's cooking show.

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