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Thread Number: 88835
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
Need help removing front timer dial on Maytag WU401 |
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| Post# 1134048 , Reply# 1 11/20/2021 at 14:00 (880 days old) by reactor (Oak Ridge, Tennessee-- ) | ||
Timer knob removal
Just screw the top part of the cycle knob counter-clockwise until it comes off. The indicator below the knob, then just slides straight up and off the shaft.
When your rinse-aid dispenser is fixed, you might want to try Lemi-Shine rinse-agent. It has more natural ingredients, and I have been very impressed how well it works. The citric acid, in it, actually dissolves the calcium carbonate in the water. BTW: Nothing will make your dishwasher perform to its peak like soft-water. If it's practical for you to get one, a central water softener will take your hardness level down to zero (= to rain water) not only will your dishware literally sparkle and gleam, but you can use much less detergent in you washer, and you eliminate hard water build-up/scale/scum not only in the dishwasher, but also in/on sinks, tubs and faucets. This post was last edited 11/20/2021 at 14:35 | ||
| Post# 1134051 , Reply# 2 11/20/2021 at 14:46 (880 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
I use borax... | ||
Post# 1134056 , Reply# 3 11/20/2021 at 16:08 (880 days old) by electronicontrl  (Grand Rapids, MI) |
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Borax in dishwasher | ||
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Post# 1134057 , Reply# 4 11/20/2021 at 16:23 (880 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1134067 , Reply# 6 11/20/2021 at 18:08 (880 days old) by reactor (Oak Ridge, Tennessee-- ) | ||
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different model
My apologies, Ben. I was describing the two piece cycle knob on the newer style Maytag Reverse Racks. I believe your knob just pulls straight off. It may have some corrosion that is adhering the timer shaft to the dial. If you have some spray penetrating oil/corrosion remover (such as Deep Creep) you might see if you can get some to go in between the shaft and knob/dial.
Most spray lubricants have a small diameter spray tube you can attach to the nozzle to get into tight places. See if you work the tube in between the dial and the front panel until you can reach the shaft and spray it. Let it sit for a while and it will hopefully penetrate. Then GENTLY put a slight rocking motion onto the dial as you pull straight out. That dial may have never been removed in over fifty years, so give it time and keep working at it, it should eventually come loose. | ||
| Post# 1134069 , Reply# 7 11/20/2021 at 18:30 (880 days old) by bgregoire (Canada) | ||
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@reactor: Peace of cake with that penetrant trick! Okay, I'm going to open the panel now and have a good look. Might come back here with some questions if I find something out of the ordinary! Thanks so much. | ||
| Post# 1134095 , Reply# 10 11/20/2021 at 21:06 (880 days old) by Cam2s (Nebraska) | ||
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What a gorgeous reverse rack! Hopefully you get many more years of washing out of it! | ||
| Post# 1134114 , Reply# 11 11/21/2021 at 07:34 (879 days old) by reactor (Oak Ridge, Tennessee-- ) | ||
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good work! | ||
| Post# 1134152 , Reply# 12 11/21/2021 at 16:41 (879 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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electronicontrl: | ||
| Post# 1134229 , Reply# 14 11/22/2021 at 15:41 (878 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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bgregoire:
How I use Borax in the dishwasher.
I have a Kitchenaid Imperial dishwasher with the cycle dial on the left hand side of the control panel. I have marked a line in the cycle when each detergent dispenser opens. And I can hear a knock when they open. After the 2nd dispenser (WASH) opens, i wait about a minute, then I open the dishwasher door, and pour the ¼ cup of Borax along the bottom half of the door and close the dishwasher door. Latch the handle and press my NORMAL WASH & HEATED DRY OFF buttons and let Katherine the dishwasher do it's thing. | ||
| Post# 1134230 , Reply# 15 11/22/2021 at 15:46 (878 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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I should have added in my last reply... | ||
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Post# 1134239 , Reply# 16 11/22/2021 at 17:31 (878 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Is borax reasonable to use on dishware? Presumably OK after a couple rinses? CLICK HERE TO GO TO DADoES's LINK | ||
| Post# 1134246 , Reply# 17 11/22/2021 at 19:05 (878 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
 Is borax reasonable to use on dishware?
That is a good question if it causes etching or any other accelerated wear and tear characteristics to dishes. Back when I was on hard water, I'd be willing to do some short and long term experiments but I'm on soft water now.
As far as toxicity goes, Borax would be the least of my worries considering the typical ingredients in: Laundry detergents, dishwasher detergents, and rinse aids. Chlorine bleach is pretty damn harsh to machinery (metals, rubber, porcelain, plastics). It's also toxic and harsh to humans, pets, and the environment.
Are you on soft water, Glenn?
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Post# 1134248 , Reply# 18 11/22/2021 at 20:03 (878 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1134251 , Reply# 19 11/22/2021 at 20:48 (878 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Private well and aerobic septic system.
Are you concerned about the effects of salt being discharged in the septic field? The controversy about salt discharge in an aerobic/anaerobic field has been around for 30+ years but the general consensus is that an aerobic field is "supposedly" less affected/not effected all in comparison to an anaerobic field. Some studies show that even an anaerobic field isn't affected as long the water softener is properly adjusted and functioning as intended.
There's so many different opinions that it's difficult unearth the truth, even without taking other variables into consideration like sizing and soil types.
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Post# 1134841 , Reply# 20 11/29/2021 at 10:28 (871 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Sodium ions in softened water isn't a concern but of course the regeneration discharge couldn't go into the system. A sump pump sprays the treated effluent water onto my "back 40" yard area via two standard sprinkler heads, timed for early-morn hrs. It doesn't run if the pump tank level isn't high enough. An override float bypasses the timer to pump it down immediately if a toilet hangs for example. An alarm float triggers if the pump fails. | ||
| Post# 1134882 , Reply# 21 11/30/2021 at 12:57 (870 days old) by reactor (Oak Ridge, Tennessee-- ) | ||
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rinse aid solenoid
My apologies, I lost track of this thread. If you haven't tested your solenoid/valve yet, look on the wiring diagram that should be glued on the inside of your door panel.
I have only had the later models' of the Reverse Rack, and they had 120 volt solenoids on the dispenser. I suspect yours does too, but check the wiring diagram to be sure. If there is no wiring diagram, trace the wires and note if they go directly to the timer. If so, it is a 120v circuit, as you have no transformer present in your machine. (The operating voltage may be stamped on the solenoid itself, anyway.) On the later model Reverse Racks, Maytag ran the detergent dispenser in series with the heating element. The resistance of the element lowered the voltage for the bi-metal heat/operated release latch in the detergent dispenser. If your dispenser solenoid is 120v, momentarily connect it to line voltage and see if a couple of drops of rinse agent are released. If not, you may have to clean the nozzle with a large needle and/or attempt to clean the valve body. By the way, I grew up in a house that was built in 1954, which had a septic system AND a water softener. My parents had it installed when the house was new. Later, two of my own homes were on a septic system and I had a softener installed. There is zero effect, absolutely zero, of a softener affecting your system in any way. It tells you this when you read the softener's instruction/installation manual. I can confirm with many decades of experiencing softener on a septic system that it does nothing derogatory, in any way. You won't even know its there. In the long run, in may help your septic system, as you will greatly cut down on the amount of detergents you use, as soft water requires lesser amounts. You will also not be using the harsh chemicals to clean your fixtures (faucets, sinks, tub, shower stall, etc.) as they will have no longer hard water or soap scum deposits occurring on them. Barry | ||
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