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2021 Any Warm Rinse Front load Washers?
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Post# 1135199   12/3/2021 at 19:08 by naparker (Monroe)        

Some fabrics, Wool especially, don't like changes of temperature when washing.
Are there ANY front loaders out there with a warm rinse option?

People can say what they like about cold water rinses doing as good a job as warm, but that is not the issue here.

Being constrained to a cold rinse means you must do a cold wash as well for some things.

I have had both top and front load machines and I think front loaders are more gentle on the clothes. And if it is a big thing like a comforter the top loaders can pull or stretch with the agitation.

I may need a new washer soon and was dismayed to find no warm rinse options in front loader in my first searches.

Post# 1135204 , Reply# 1   12/3/2021 at 19:42 by appnut (TX)        

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I don't find any front loaders with a warm rinse option, but a couple of GE top loaders do/did have a warm rinse option and Speed Queen's TR7 model offeers a warm wash/warm rinse combination.

Post# 1135225 , Reply# 2   12/3/2021 at 23:03 by Moon1234 (Wisconsin)        

All Miele Professional washers offer warm water rinse. The eco Nazis have taken away that option for most “residential” washing machines.

Post# 1135239 , Reply# 3   12/4/2021 at 03:37 by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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In theory there shouldn`t be a huge problem with felting of wool because of a smallish temperature change from a lukewarm 30 °C or a warm 40 to a cold rinse.
I think if it was a problem most European washers would do a cool down in wool cycles before the first cold rinse as they do in permanent press cycles, but AFAIK they don`t.
On the other hand if you use 60 °C hot water for wool as it`s typically done for dyeing this delicate fabric then you have to be very careful about temperature changes which means the dye bath should be heated slowly and then at best let it cool down all by itself.
So I get the point of a FL with a warm rinse, but even if you can find one it would be most likely only the last rinse in warm water because of energy restrictions which again doesn`t do anything about temperature changes during the cycle.

On a side note as a German I find the term eco Nazi a bit offensive.
I know most folks who say so aren`t even aware of what they say but political correctness otherwise is a top priority on AW so why not for everyone?

Post# 1135241 , Reply# 4   12/4/2021 at 05:07 by HobartHero (New York)        
Could mix hot and cold lines….

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You could mix the hot and cold water into a mix hose manually and just run warm temperature water to both the hot and cold inlet on your machine…. This would obviously limit you to only warm wash and warm rinse but it would be an easy way to get that combination…

Post# 1135242 , Reply# 5   12/4/2021 at 06:46 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I second Stefan's remark about using the word eco Nazi. As a European I'm still schocked by that term when it's being used.

Post# 1135243 , Reply# 6   12/4/2021 at 07:38 by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
you will not find on 2021 washers a warm rinse

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the only way you would find a warm rinse on a washer would be if you go with a vintage machine topload or front load since modern machine are all cold rinse.

Post# 1135250 , Reply# 7   12/4/2021 at 09:19 by Keith (Connecticut )        
2021 Speed Queen TR 7 and GE GTW465ASNWW has warm rinse.

2021 Speed Queen TR7 has warm rinse option as previously mentioned,2021 GE GTW465ASNWW also has warm rinse. So yes, washers still have warm options for *Top Load* washers. Haven’t seen any thing for front load in a while however. OP was asking about front loaders so this top load talk is a moot point I suppose.

Hooking warm water to both inlet valves will result in an error code and no fill on most new machines unfortunately.

Post# 1135268 , Reply# 8   12/4/2021 at 14:35 by Logixx (Germany)        

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Wholeheartedly agree with Stefan and Louis about the uncalled-for and repeated use of this N-word throughout this forum in non-political threads.

Post# 1135271 , Reply# 9   12/4/2021 at 15:23 by naparker (Monroe)        

Thanks everyone.
I will look into the Miele line and maybe think about a top load.
I know they make some without an agitator.

Top load means I can't have a sorting/folding table over the Washer and Drier.
Unless maybe I split the table so the washer side can lift up....mmmm

Good points about the water temperature mixing, cycling hot and cold, and etc.
I hadn't thought much about how the washer actually delivers the different temperatures.

Lots of places say the warm water rinse was removed for energy savings, but that doesn't make sense since a lot of washers have new "super hot" and "sanitary" settings that must use more power since some have a heater to control the temp.
I would rather have plain old hot/warm/cold and and the ability to mix and match as I choose.

You guys saved me a ton of fruitless searching!!!

Post# 1135328 , Reply# 10   12/5/2021 at 10:34 by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

You can look for a tempering valve and connect it to hot and cold water with backflow preventers. The one I have provides 75-80F water for the cold supply which is the minimum temperature it provides because it is mainly designed to temper hot water down, not cold water up, but it works well for my wants. I connected the discharge to a manifold so that it provides that temperature of cold water to all 4 of the front loading machines on the south wall of the basement.

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