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Thread Number: 89189
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Whirlpool Belt drive Ball bearing |
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| Post# 1137674 12/28/2021 at 17:42 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
Hi everybody.
I was trying again to fix the Belt drive wp that worked for awhile but then started to slow down during spin after some months of regular use. At the time during installation I did not honestly remember to check for the ball bearing. Basically I do not know if it was there or fell when I installed the thing. As I was told the machine would not spin without it. Anyway, now I removed the transmission and couldn't find the ball. Checked everywhere but nothing. So I'm not sure it was already there in the first place. Is that possible that it worked anyway for awhile without the ball? And is it possible that the lack of the ball is the responsible for the latest slow spin (slipping belt-like symptoms) troubles I had with the machine? Anyway I need this darn ball now and over eBay there are T bearings plus the ball kits but cost alot for shipping (+20buck plus customs) so I would try to just find a suitable ball instead. And here is the million dollar question: Do any of you know the exact size this ball should be? Thanks. | ||
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| Post# 1137675 , Reply# 1 12/28/2021 at 17:52 (846 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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| Post# 1137677 , Reply# 2 12/28/2021 at 18:06 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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So you say that the ball must have been there?
It used to spin for some months but it started to slow down and the basket would stay still if I stopped it with my hand. Like it had a slipping belt. All of a sudden. Anyway the ball is not there and looked everywhere and did not hear anything falling down while removing it. I remember your video Sean, but I still do not fully understand the clutch system.😣😣😣😣 | ||
| Post# 1137678 , Reply# 3 12/28/2021 at 18:11 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137680 , Reply# 5 12/28/2021 at 18:18 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137682 , Reply# 6 12/28/2021 at 18:25 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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I am not sure of the model number since this is a 240v 50hz model for export.
But it is a classic 1984 Whirlpool. The belt is not slipping and was well tensioned. The friction looks like is there even during wash because the plate stays still it does not go up or down apparently nor I understand how is supposed to move or how I can adjust it to do that. | ||
Post# 1137685 , Reply# 7 12/28/2021 at 18:39 (846 days old) by gizmo  (Victoria, Australia) |
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This might help... see link below. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gizmo's LINK | ||
| Post# 1137689 , Reply# 9 12/28/2021 at 19:11 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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I have already read that several times I was also sent a repair manual time ago but is not clear and detailed in the explanations.
Also it doesn't mention my case in the troubleshooting. It does not say how the clutch lining which I think is the plate? Is supposed to stay lifted during wash and not have this friction. I have the thing in front of me and I don't understand how. What I see happening in my machine is of course the brake going up in wash mode and stopping the basket. During spin after the drain the brake goes down as the spin cam is pulled back. But I see the spin tube pulley gliding against the plate all the time apparently both wash and spin and not even moving a little bit I cannot understand if it supposed to pull up the plate during wash and how as that thing looks like is just a block meant to stay in that very same position all the time. | ||
| Post# 1137692 , Reply# 10 12/28/2021 at 19:18 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137695 , Reply# 11 12/28/2021 at 19:26 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137697 , Reply# 12 12/28/2021 at 19:37 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137698 , Reply# 13 12/28/2021 at 19:42 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137701 , Reply# 14 12/28/2021 at 19:53 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137704 , Reply# 15 12/28/2021 at 20:09 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137708 , Reply# 16 12/28/2021 at 21:02 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 1137734 , Reply# 18 12/29/2021 at 06:30 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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This is the two T bearings I have from old and new transmission.
Regarding the model the tag was caked in limescale and soap, cleaned it but can't read well as the initial characters are basically covered by the rivet or whatever that is. It appears it reads 5LA5700XMWO I remember I searched it in the past but nothing came out so I assume it must have been a particular rare model number given for export models. And is what in USA was called the same but without the initial 5? The machine is a classic Whirlpool with straight vane (round agi base no clover like one). | ||
| Post# 1137735 , Reply# 19 12/29/2021 at 06:33 (846 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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The tag doesn't say where it was built but I assume US, anyway if it helps I will post the serial number also.
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Post# 1137742 , Reply# 20 12/29/2021 at 09:30 (845 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1137743 , Reply# 21 12/29/2021 at 09:32 (845 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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According to the part diagram I need the ball bearing.
Anyway, I want to understand the purpose of it. Also, (even though I was told it had nothing to do with it and some transmissions did that for some reason), the only weird thing the machine did prior to the latest spin issue wss that since I mounted the new transmission the agitator would not spin along with the tub anymore. I used to run It with full loads most of the time so most of the time it would wrap with clothes and spin along. | ||
| Post# 1137744 , Reply# 22 12/29/2021 at 09:34 (845 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Post# 1137749 , Reply# 23 12/29/2021 at 10:43 (845 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Steel Ball For Tee Bearing This is not really a ball bearing [ it does not rotate ] , it only serves as a support to hold the Tee bearing at a set level on the agitator shaft.
You should be able to find a steel ball at a hardware store etc, it just needs to fit into the hole in the agitator shaft and the Tee bearing sits down over it.
With the ball missing the machine may or may not spin, its needs this part to work correctly.
John L. | ||
| Post# 1137751 , Reply# 24 12/29/2021 at 11:57 (845 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Thanks John.
I will look for one. At this point i also want to make sure there is nothing wrong with my clutch and plate. Is the plate supposed to lift on wash mode? How? How much space? How to adjust it to do that? Assuming pads are worn out is there a way I can replace the plate with the one I have on my other spin tube (which is in worst shape)? I see slots on what appeaes to be an alluminum thing inside and the plastic grey thing have counter slots which leads me to think that thing must indeed be pulled up. But how? | ||
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