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Thread Number: 89490
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Removing blood stains? |
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Post# 1140909 , Reply# 1 2/1/2022 at 16:42 (813 days old) by ea56  (Cotati, Calif.) |
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 Sorry you hurt yourself Douglas, hope your healing OK.
As for the blood stain, the best way to prevent blood stains is to rinse the stain with cold water as soon as possible, and don’t use any soap or detergent until the blood is almost completely gone, then wash in cold or lukewarm water with detergent and LCB.
Never use hot water on a blood stain. Blood is comprised of mostly protein and the hot water will just set the stain by “cooking” the proteins in the blood into the fabric. I think that peroxide essentially does the same thing.
But once the blood stain has set you may be able to get more of the stain out with oxi clean or maybe even lemon juice and table salt. But sadly the stain may never come out completely.
Eddie
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Post# 1140939 , Reply# 3 2/1/2022 at 20:06 (813 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 1140941 , Reply# 4 2/1/2022 at 20:20 (813 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio) |
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Blood I am guessing you didn't dry these or use hot water to wash them? I have had great success with ammonia. Soaking in cool water and Biz powder is a good idea too. | ||
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Post# 1140958 , Reply# 5 2/2/2022 at 01:16 (813 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1140962 , Reply# 6 2/2/2022 at 01:57 (813 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Two of best things for "starched whites" were hydrogen peroxide, and Zout (in white bottle).
Zout was actually invented (so story goes) by a nurse seeking to shift povidone-iodine (commonly known as Betadine) stains from uniforms. Betadine was everywhere back then, pre-op surgical scrub, wound care, etc.. so it invariably ended up on linens and uniforms among other things. Povidone iodine has largely fallen out of favor with chlorhexidine used instead. Problem is if you get chlorhexidine on fabrics it can be difficult to remove via laundering. If not totally removed and stains come into contact with chlorine bleach it things turn into a nasty brown mark that is difficult to impossible to remove. It is because of latter that many laundries that deal with healthcare linens or uniforms no longer use chlorine bleach, but oxygen or peracetic acid based products. Oxygen bleaches do not react with chlorhexidine same as chlorine, so it saves creating those nasty brown stains. | ||
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Post# 1140963 , Reply# 7 2/2/2022 at 02:10 (813 days old) by donprohel (I live in Munich - Germany, but I am Italian) |
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Enzymes I have had good results using enzyme-based stain removers for blood stains: just apply and watch the stain disappear. I used the Ecover version (which contains a single enzyme: subtilisin) but there are many others that I am sure would work CLICK HERE TO GO TO donprohel's LINK | ||
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Post# 1140965 , Reply# 8 2/2/2022 at 02:42 (813 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Could have sworn typed a response, oh well.
If blood stains were treated with a good pre-treat enzyme based pretreat product, then laundering in a good detergent containing more of same what largely remains then is coloring. Provided blood isn't set by hot water (which in this case seems was not), before laundering or pretreating it shouldn't set. Applying hydrogen peroxide to blood marks doesn't cause them to set in. Maybe contents of your bottle have expired? Hydrogen peroxide does lose power sitting about. If things didn't fizz when liquid hydrogen peroxide is applied to blood marks, it may have lost a bit of oooph. A fresh bottle may be in order. You have a few options here... Soak items again in a good detergent that contains oxygen bleach (TWB or Persil), and or use a liquid detergent along with stain booster product. Or simply soak with an "Oxi Clean" type product. Soak in warm water using a non metal container for several hours or overnight. If marks haven't shifted, continue soaking. A fresh batch of solution will be required after about 9 or so hours. Or, apply liquid hydrogen peroxide (from brown bottle sold at chemists) to blood marks, then let sit in well light area. Check for progress now and then, and reapply more peroxide when treated area begins to dry. Once mark is gone give things a quick good rinse. If you have access to a washing machine that does a good very hot to boil wash, launder items again using good detergent with oxygen bleach, or bit of liquid detergent with several ounces of straight sodium percarbonate or perborate (powder oxygen bleach). Heat merely speeds up action, so what would take maybe hour or longer soaking happens faster at high temps. | ||
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Post# 1140966 , Reply# 9 2/2/2022 at 03:37 (813 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1140972 , Reply# 10 2/2/2022 at 08:06 (813 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1140982 , Reply# 11 2/2/2022 at 09:57 (813 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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 I swear by Soilove laundry stain remover. It has always removed blood stains completely, and it's at the dollar store. CLICK HERE TO GO TO RP2813's LINK | ||
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Post# 1140986 , Reply# 12 2/2/2022 at 10:30 (812 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Soilove should remove blood, it contains ammonium hydroxide commonly sold as household ammonia. With a pH of about 10.9 to 11.0. Most laundry detergents range from near neutral to about 12.0
laundrydetergentideas.com/is-lau... www.amazon.com/Soilove-La... Base or alkaline substances are rather good at destroying proteins. This is why one shouldn't use things like chlorine bleach on wool or silk (both fibers are made from protein). Commercial or industrial laundries largely historically didn't bother with enzymes. Instead relying upon chemicals (acid or base pH level), and hot to very water temps. Such laundries for ages relied upon nothing but soap, very hot water and sodium metasilicate for laundering blood stained work such as hospital linens. After two or three washes a bleach bath (chlorine) would take care of any remaining blood or other stains. | ||
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Post# 1141002 , Reply# 14 2/2/2022 at 14:15 (812 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 1141152 , Reply# 16 2/4/2022 at 07:54 (811 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Heck, Oxyclean in very VERY hot water might get the remainder out. Also...go to a beauty supply store and get a small bottle of their peroxide...different strengths....but I'd be very careful with it. The creme kind of developer doesn't run everywhere...it stays where you put it. Dab some on, watch it, rinse it out.
Different situation but......once I was drying a very poofy comforter in the dryer and it actually got scorched on one side. I panicked and decided to try anything. Got a bottle of the brown peroxide at Walmart and put it in a spray bottle. Sprayed it on the scorch marks and just watched it.....they all faded before my eyes. Worked like a charm! | ||
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Post# 1141732 , Reply# 20 2/9/2022 at 07:47 (806 days old) by Paulg (My sweet home... Chicago) |
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Clorox For Colors - in the blue bottle. | ||
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Post# 1141792 , Reply# 21 2/10/2022 at 01:08 (805 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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If it is of any consolation to some commercial/industrial laundries also can have issues getting blood out of textiles.
Maybe a small drop off laundromat service might pre-treat, but that just isn't possible when processing hundreds or thousands of pounds of wash per hour. Things that don't come acceptably clean first time are often pulled aside. Then either go back and are rewashed, or left in a pile until there is enough to run a reclaim cycle. Reclaim wash treatments are almost certain to shorten life of textiles and or washing machine if done too often, but they are sort of the last hope for certain things. If stains cannot be removed the item is consigned to rag bin. For things stained by blood reclaim involves using quite strong bleaches such as high concentration of chlorine, or oxalic acid. These chemicals are used at quite elevated temperatures as well. Then of course all those chemicals must be washed out and neutralized.. Reclaim is also used for white things that have become yellowed. | ||
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Post# 1141801 , Reply# 22 2/10/2022 at 04:40 (805 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1141813 , Reply# 23 2/10/2022 at 08:43 (805 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Think Era detergent is still around, it's P&G's bargain brand detergent and still is listed on P&G's website as an active brand.
P&G introduced ERA in early 1970's as their first liquid detergent, Tide liquid wouldn't come along until 1984. In early 1980's P&G upped Era's gain by introducing "Era Plus". This new product contained enzyme to deal with protein stains and soils. Because "protein gets out protein...". You can see where this was going.... As with Biz and Oxydol both of which became redundant when P&G added their advanced oxygen bleaching system to Tide powder, ERA would suffer in sales once Tide liquid was introduced. P&G also poured more technology (enzyme cocktails, etc....) into Tide liquid format detergents. So where does ERA fit in? Good question, and one that P&G has been grappling with past few years. IIRC ERA has lost some of enzymes and may be more diluted than previously. It certainly is not on same level as Tide liquid/gel/pod detergents. But you get what you pay for... | ||
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Post# 1141872 , Reply# 24 2/11/2022 at 01:06 (804 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1142985 , Reply# 26 2/24/2022 at 02:46 (791 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Good for you... | ||
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Post# 1143265 , Reply# 27 2/27/2022 at 04:53 (788 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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What she ^ said! It breaks down to plain old water....H2O2 becomes H20 I swear by peroxide on blood stains...or even concentrated oxyclean.
The Maytag Encyclopedia of Home Laundry says, "Soak in cold water for 30 minutes or longer. If the stain persists, soak in lukewarm ammonia water (3Tbsp per gallon) for 30 minutes or longer. If even this does not work, rub detergent into the stain and launder, using a bleach safe for the fabric."
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Post# 1143326 , Reply# 28 2/27/2022 at 17:14 (787 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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tide heavy duty I recommend tide hygienic clean power pods. I use the original scent and it worked well for my blue jeans that I got blood on when I accidentally cut myself when making mac and cheese cups when trying to open the cheese pack. | ||
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Post# 1143453 , Reply# 30 2/28/2022 at 23:50 (786 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Automatic dishwasher detergents in all forms are far more alkaline than laundry products. Higher pH alone would account for shifting blood (again that ammonia or other base substance thing..). Piled on would be fact automatic dishwasher detergent normally contains good amount of oxygen bleach, and perhaps activator. Again you can see why such a thing would shift blood stains.
This being said due to high pH laundering textiles with automatic dishwasher detergents isn't highly recommended. | ||
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Post# 1143493 , Reply# 31 3/1/2022 at 13:45 (785 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ) |
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My go to is H2O2 and I've found that adding salt helps tremendously. 1. Splash on the hydrogen peroxide. 2. Add enough salt to make a paste. 3. Scrub with an old toothbrush to work the paste into the fabric. 4. Wait until the fizzing stops, rinse, and repeat until stain is gone. | ||
| Post# 1143747 , Reply# 35 3/4/2022 at 23:13 (782 days old) by Good-Shepherd (New Jersey) | ||
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Back when we nurses wore the white uniforms They should bring white nurse uniforms back. Why dd they switch to dark uniforms, was it because the nurses got too fat and needed colors that were more slimming? | ||
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Post# 1143751 , Reply# 36 3/5/2022 at 05:25 (782 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Here in the States, quite possibly. I was told that hospitals were changing because the white was so cold and sterile and patients were nervous enough...white coat hypertension. They felt a little color might lighten the moods a little. My new department wears gray. So I have black, navy, royal, light blue, and green scrubs I don't wear anymore. And I still have the whites...never know when we might need them. We used to be so proud to wear the whites....This was 24 years ago......funny how dark my hair was then...now it's dark ash blonde and getting white.
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Post# 1147393 , Reply# 38 4/25/2022 at 20:12 (730 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I second the suggestion to try STPP to get out blood stains. Providing you're in an area where its use is allowed.
STPP chelates metal ions and facilitates their removal from fabrics, and since a main component of blood is iron, I figure it should work on blood stains. I find STPP to be a good laundry additive for any kind of stain removal. | ||
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