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1967 Hamilton 800 washer and dryer
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Post# 1141389   2/6/2022 at 12:58 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Had these for quite some time, however seemed to have time to take photos. With the recent snow, I had time. Please excuse my crappy old camera. I do not take many photos or videos anymore. This set was from my friend Kenny (Goatfarmer) a few years back. This set was seldom, if ever used. The only work I did to get this washer going, was to replace the plastic gear on the timer motor. It had changed to a waxy substance over the decades. I also had to tighten the belt. It had stretched out a bit, over the decades. The set works great, although the controls are overly complex, and somewhat annoying for what they really do. Also, the console lights shine in your face, and make what should be a simple cycle selection even more difficult. All in all, the set performs well. I do not use these very much, and if I used them more, the controls would become less confusing. I made some videos of the washer, cleaning a set of sheets. So please enjoy!




Post# 1141390 , Reply# 1   2/6/2022 at 13:00 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        
Videos

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This set is from 1967, btw. Wash cycle...

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Post# 1141391 , Reply# 2   2/6/2022 at 13:03 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        
First spin

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This machine has a looooooong spray rinse.

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Post# 1141392 , Reply# 3   2/6/2022 at 13:05 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        
Rinse cycle

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Post# 1141393 , Reply# 4   2/6/2022 at 13:06 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        
Final spin

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Final spin, and brake.

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Post# 1141395 , Reply# 5   2/6/2022 at 13:11 (802 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Nice!  The turquoise/blue bits are an unexpected bonus.


Post# 1141396 , Reply# 6   2/6/2022 at 13:15 (802 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow!  What a beautiful set of machines, Rick!  It's unusual to see Hamiltons, but in a set... wow!!


Post# 1141397 , Reply# 7   2/6/2022 at 13:16 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        
Photo with the front removed

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Looks very new inside. I have never seen this mechanism before, and I have no idea who's it is. Hamilton made dryers, but not washers. Anyone know who made this mechanism?

Post# 1141398 , Reply# 8   2/6/2022 at 13:17 (802 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Close-up pics of the controls on both, please, thanks!


Post# 1141399 , Reply# 9   2/6/2022 at 13:21 (802 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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These are absolutely stunning.  Frankin made washer, must have been right after WCI bought out Hamilton.   Certainly looks almost unused from that motor/transmission shot!

 

Ben


Post# 1141400 , Reply# 10   2/6/2022 at 13:23 (802 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
Franklin made that washer.

and this is the only one I have ever seen :)

Post# 1141401 , Reply# 11   2/6/2022 at 13:28 (802 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Two questions:

The water that sloshes onto the tub ring during spin doesn't leak over to the floor?

I assume the whole machine isn't really wobbling during spin?  If not, it's likely an effect of digital stabilization on your camera reacting to the tub/agitator wobble and trying to stabilize the entire view.  Turning that function off should eliminate the effect.


Post# 1141402 , Reply# 12   2/6/2022 at 13:38 (802 days old) by rickr (.)        

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No, the water does not spill over, and the machine does not leak. As I said previously, the camera is a crappy old Kodak that is at least 15 years old. The machine does not wobble. The camera makes it appear that way.

Post# 1141410 , Reply# 13   2/6/2022 at 16:00 (802 days old) by Hippiedoll ( arizona )        
VERY COOL...

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The COPPERTONE cabinet & TURQUOISE agitator, tub ring, filter trap, & fabric softener dispenser colors really go well & look great! I didn't think they came out with the wood grain look until the 70's?

Very cool washer from a great era!
😊


Post# 1141415 , Reply# 14   2/6/2022 at 17:06 (802 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Absolutely stunning! The colors are jaw-dropping. The machine makes a delightful sound and looks to have decent agitation/turnover. Thank you for sharing the videos! Maybe another of the dryer?

Post# 1141421 , Reply# 15   2/6/2022 at 18:09 (802 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Amazin Rick!!! Beautiful. Yeah a 65 second spray rinse is definitely long. I doubt a 2nd rinse if needed very often.

Post# 1141442 , Reply# 16   2/6/2022 at 19:38 (802 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Yep, that's a 1st Rinse

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These are wonderful, Rick.  Truly a rare washer, that's a hefty brake ya got there.  These minty low-use machines are getting fewer and farther between, thanks for sharing yours.

 

What do you think of the dryer?  


Post# 1141458 , Reply# 17   2/6/2022 at 22:58 (802 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

I've never seen a Hamilton in operation. Thanks for sharing the videos.

Post# 1141486 , Reply# 18   2/7/2022 at 06:47 (801 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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very nice indeed fun vids too.

Post# 1141489 , Reply# 19   2/7/2022 at 07:12 (801 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

What a beautiful set and so unusual to find something in such mint condition. I don't recall the history of those, but would be interested to know where they originated. Now for my follow up question. In the first pic of the set, immediately to the left of the washer, I see a piece of what appears to be a red appliance with a "Norge" escutcheon near the bottom. What might that be?

Post# 1141514 , Reply# 20   2/7/2022 at 09:21 (801 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

Post# 1141528 , Reply# 21   2/7/2022 at 12:21 (801 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Thanks for the interest and comments. The dryer is gas and works very well. The rollers have flat spots from sitting for so long, so you hear "thump, thump, thump" as the dryer runs. It gets a bit better as it warms up, but it never goes away. The dryer also has a standing pilot, so I close the gas valve after using it. Pilot door is on the top of the dryer, so it is easy to light, before using. The other machine, which is red, is a 1958 Norge that I finished a couple years ago. I will take some pictures of it and post at some point. Kenny (Goatfarmer) is the person that found these Hamiltons at an estate sale. If it were not for him, this set would have most likely been scrapped, or placed in a rental house somewhere, until they were destroyed. So, Kenny is the person that deserves the credit for the preservation of this rare set, and the one that should be thanked as well.

Post# 1141544 , Reply# 22   2/7/2022 at 13:17 (801 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        

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Very Nice and unique too, thanks for sharing these pictures!


Post# 1141555 , Reply# 23   2/7/2022 at 14:43 (801 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hamilton!

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Rich best of luck with this nice matching set. Can you take closeups of the dryer!


Post# 1141556 , Reply# 24   2/7/2022 at 14:50 (801 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Thanks Kenny!

Post# 1141560 , Reply# 25   2/7/2022 at 15:03 (801 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

I second that!!!

Post# 1141565 , Reply# 26   2/7/2022 at 16:16 (801 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Silly question but why are the comments off on YouTube?

Post# 1141586 , Reply# 27   2/7/2022 at 18:14 (801 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
when I got 'em

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Paging the Hamiltons! (automaticwasher.org)

 

 I know they went to a good home, Rick, they still look great! That's going on almost 6 years ago!


Post# 1141601 , Reply# 28   2/7/2022 at 20:22 (801 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Yeah a 65 second spray rinse is definitely long.
I counted exactly one minute. That's a long spray rinse if you own a Whirlpool/Kenmore or other poor rinsing machines but that's just a normal everyday occurrence for Maytag and GE Filter Flo users with machines built from the late 60's to the mid 90's.

Post# 1141607 , Reply# 29   2/7/2022 at 21:06 (801 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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It's curious that the long spray rinse impairs spin RPM, presumably related to the pump-out rate.  Is that normal for this machine, or due to high water pressure?


Post# 1141622 , Reply# 30   2/7/2022 at 23:28 (801 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I've had Maytag center dials with a full load of towels do this during the spray rinse too.

Post# 1141626 , Reply# 31   2/7/2022 at 23:52 (801 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I’ve had my Maytag A606 water-lock before where the pump couldn’t pump the water out fast enough when it was spinning out a normal load of towels once and yes the belt tension was adjusted correctly. Was a fluke thing since it happened once but didn’t happen again which interesting.

Post# 1141679 , Reply# 32   2/8/2022 at 16:18 (800 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)        
Spin RPM please

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It appears they spin pretty fast, once up to speed. What is the spin RPM?

Hugs,
David


Post# 1141688 , Reply# 33   2/8/2022 at 17:27 (800 days old) by rickr (.)        
Hi David

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I don't know the spin speed, and I doubt anyone else does either. It is faster than my 58 Maytag, so I would guess around 800.

Post# 1141690 , Reply# 34   2/8/2022 at 17:32 (800 days old) by rickr (.)        
DADeOS

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You were spot on about the pump out rate. I looked behind the machine to find the drain hose kinked. I will do another load in this machine on Thursday, and I bet the spin won't stall out on the long spray rinse.

Post# 1141692 , Reply# 35   2/8/2022 at 17:36 (800 days old) by rickr (.)        
Kenny

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Thank you again for saving this set. Please let me know when you are in Fort Wayne next time. We can have lunch again, make a trip to A-1 Marks for the heck of it.

Post# 1141711 , Reply# 36   2/8/2022 at 19:42 (800 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Spin Speed --

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Service manual indicates the spin speed is 600 RPM on regular and 400 on slow, with 70 oscillations per minute for agitation on regular and 47 for slow.   Cycle chart for the Programmer Washer (800) below.

 

The service manual still shows this washer being made under the name of Hamilton out of Two Rivers, so it's definitely before being gobbled up by WCI but using a Franklin transmission/drive.  I have to wonder if this was built in Webster City, IA at the Franklin Manufacturing plant.  Does anyone know if the earlier Norge-Hamilton washes were made in Wisconsin or out of a Norge factory? 

 

Thank you Rick for posting the videos.  Fascinating and beautiful machine!

 

Ben


Post# 1141713 , Reply# 37   2/8/2022 at 20:27 (800 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
70 oscillations per minute

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That's entering Norge territory.


Post# 1141903 , Reply# 38   2/11/2022 at 12:21 (797 days old) by Seeitrun2006 (Commerce, GA)        
Hamilton appliances

The 1st clothes dryer my family had was a middle of the line Hamilton dryer with a “D” shaped window.
It was converted to use propane gas. They purchased it the fall of 1969 from the propane gas company my dad worked at. It was paired with a 1971 one cycle Hotpoint washer . That dryer dried clothes for 7 people until 1976. The dryer would run for 30 minutes then stop. Wait 45 minutes it would start back up. No one could “seem” to fix it.

The washer started leaking profusely and started to give an electric shock if you touched the dryer and washer together. My mom then purchased in December 1976 a Maytag model 408 with a Maytag auto dry gas dryer.

The Hotpoint washer went to the junk yard. The Hamilton went to the basement. I went down to see if I could fix it. The long copper colored thermostat bulb in the vent was encased with a 3 inch wad of lint from end to end. When it was drying the wad of lint would get wet, then get super hot and the thermostat would cut off the dryer. After I fixed it daddy gave it away to a widowed aunt. She used it until she passed away several years later. It was a good dryer!!!



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