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Fellow enthusiasts, please elaborate on this 2 year old Maytag dishwasher
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Post# 1143634   3/3/2022 at 15:10 (277 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

Hello all, I have found our next new dishwasher possibly. My question is regarding the wash system she states that in the description it has the new dual power filtration system but every time Iíve seen that system it has those little thin spray arms and that little contraption at the bottom and this model in the photos is the same style wash system that they came out with in 2015 where it ran all arms at once, is this model the same one that runs everything at once? Judging by the fact it still has the 2015 design, Iíd assume so and sheís just wrong on the information. If anyone knows please let me know, I donít want a dishwasher that alternates spray arms. Overall itís in mint shape and we are going to look at it tomorrow. I am just curious to know cause she claims itís the new dual power filtration and I donít think that is what this model has.

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Post# 1143635 , Reply# 1   3/3/2022 at 15:14 (277 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

FYI this is model number MDB4949SHZ to make it easier.

Post# 1143636 , Reply# 2   3/3/2022 at 15:14 (277 days old) by Egress (Oregon)        

yep, that appears to be the point-voyager based one.

Post# 1143637 , Reply# 3   3/3/2022 at 15:15 (277 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I don't have facebook access so I cannot help you since I cannot see photo(s)

Post# 1143641 , Reply# 4   3/3/2022 at 15:26 (277 days old) by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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Post# 1143658 , Reply# 5   3/3/2022 at 17:04 (277 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

Thank you for reposting those pics, I was just about to sorry about that.

But yeah I thought so, As when they were done with the point voyager series they re-updated the system in like 2015 or so and this is the same generation and wash system thatís in this model that I showed you guys but she was claiming itís the new dual power filtration and I just wanted to make sure itís not that because thatís got a ton of recalls on it and itís just not something Iíd prefer but this is very clearly the older better wash system that was updated in 2015 from the pointe voyagers which is actually what we have right now we have a 2009 jet clean but itís on the fritz because the control board has given out twice and it works sometimes and doesnít work other times times now, the interior is damaged from calcium and the front handle being plastic is very worn, itís just time to retire the old girl. Sheís been a good machine. Iím looking forward to this new upgrade, this is essentially the exact same dishwasher just with an updated wash system that operates the same still. Hope I've got that correct.


Post# 1143664 , Reply# 6   3/3/2022 at 17:45 (277 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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I had a Maytag based on that wash system.  I wasn't very happy with it.  The spray arms didn't seem to reach the corners very well and I could usually count on remaining residue from baked on items. 


Post# 1143670 , Reply# 7   3/3/2022 at 19:11 (277 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

Weíll see about that. The upper jets are bizarrely angled I thought, and I donít like how huge the upper arm is itís the same as the lower one and it irritates me, maybe it can be switched out with the general Whirlpool upper arm that theyíve used on every dishwasher within the last decade almost. Not sure if the feed tube will provide that availability to fit the same.

Post# 1143682 , Reply# 8   3/4/2022 at 00:56 (277 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Why does the larger upper arm irritate you?

Post# 1143684 , Reply# 9   3/4/2022 at 01:45 (277 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
spray arms

I thought today's maytag dishwashers alternated spray arms.

Post# 1143694 , Reply# 10   3/4/2022 at 11:30 (276 days old) by Egress (Oregon)        

The newest ones do (2021+) this model does not as it is older than 2021


Post# 1143730 , Reply# 11   3/4/2022 at 18:20 (276 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

Correct this model is the 2015 redesign off the point voyager platform. I donít like the upper arm cause itís one very flimsy and HUGE, but Iíll get used to it. We just made our purchase and sheís in MINT condition, very excited to live on the Maytag theme. Iím still weary of new appliances, as this is 19 months old and was purchased online they sold cause they were redoing the kitchen, they said they absolutely adored it and it worked perfectly. Everything looks perfect, also I absolutely admire how SIMPLE this model is to clean as far as the sump goes, no tools required unlike my jetclean point voyager! Those choppers are so tedious to replace and make sure are in perfectly. Very curious to see how quiet this model is. Thank you all Iíll update when itís installed and Iíve cleaned the sump for any possible GUNGA out, lol. Very excited for this I really like it.

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Post# 1143749 , Reply# 12   3/4/2022 at 23:47 (276 days old) by Egress (Oregon)        

Yeah, gotta be careful about that GUNGA.

Post# 1143750 , Reply# 13   3/4/2022 at 23:59 (276 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
spray arms

What rack does the newest maytag start with before switching to the next?

Post# 1143779 , Reply# 14   3/5/2022 at 16:55 (275 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Mine is from the year before. Bought in June 2014...had zero issues with it so far.

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Post# 1143820 , Reply# 15   3/6/2022 at 07:50 (274 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL)        
I have that exact machine...

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and no, the wash arms do not alternate...and yes, it will leave baked on residue...but it's quiet, dries well, and beats hand washing.

Post# 1143958 , Reply# 16   3/7/2022 at 15:33 (273 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

If itís a new machine regardless of the brand, Iíd never load anything with chunks or a any solid scraps into it as these new machines donít have very good filtration or disposing systems. I load my powerclean very differently than I do our Maytag. So we will see how this does from the looks of videos Iíve seen from it washing it looks just as powerful as the one we have the point voyager, Iíd find it hard to believe it wonít remove baked on stuff for how long it runs especially with the HI TEMP and sanitize on. So we will see Iíll definitely do some tests with baked on thingsÖjust no big chunks of anything cause this model will get plugged easily. I despise how the chopper assembly is directly off the motor underneathÖbut itís very nice looking and definitely a step up from our old one. That plastic control panel was terribleÖbut the motor in it will run forever itís never had an issue in the 6 years weíve owned it. Curious to see this models performance and as to why some have had issues with it leaving stuff behindÖwith these new models you must rinse off the food scraps but sauces peanut butter things like that are usually just fine. Once installed Iíll do a full test. Thank you all for the input on this model, as this was the last of this generation you could buy. I am beginning to actually love the upper arm and how it matches the lower, itís just so wide but itís unique and will get the job done just fine and the chrome is beautiful with the stainless interior. Overall I love it but cant say anything about it until itís first run.

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Post# 1143964 , Reply# 17   3/7/2022 at 17:04 (273 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I have never rinsed anything I put in my KA, scrape big stuff off, no rinse.   Everything comes out spotless.  I can count on one hand the number of dishes that had anything on them after the cycle in the 2 years I've had the DW. Modern detergents LIKE food on the dishes and work better when it's there, it is held in place while it dissolves the mess.


Post# 1143979 , Reply# 18   3/7/2022 at 19:39 (273 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        

What model do you have Matt? Cause this machine nor many others cannot break the larger soils down and they become GUNGA in the sump strainers. All gloves are off when it comes to loading my powerclean, that can handle anything. Some of these new ones just cannot do it without the sump getting filthy, Iíll definitely run my tests with a bad heavily soiled baked on wash with tons of food soils, and Iíll check the traps after the cycle. If it comes out well I think we will be able to load heavier things into it as far as soil is concerned.

Iím a huge fanatic about NO pre rinsing, the machine already does that for you. Which many blind consumers donít understand. As much as I want to just throw it in after scraping the huge stuff I donít want all the little tiny pieces becoming gunga in the filtration traps, itís so easy to happen on these new machines. Thatís the only reason I make sure I get the heavy or solid things off. No pre rinsing really just extra scraping is all. Itís hard to describe this because there are millions of different soils. Cause if you donít your sump will get clogged with these newer units, if itís not a manual cleaning of course. After a few heavily soiled runs absolutely zero pre rinsing we will see what the traps look like. What you canít see though is the grinder screen for the chopper, which will accumulate lots GUNGA and itís brother GUNGALUNGA.


Post# 1143986 , Reply# 19   3/7/2022 at 20:49 (273 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

It's a KA KDTE254ESS1. Over the years I've had 5 dishwashers and this is by far the best, even beating out my GE 2400 from the '80s.  Love that both the racks are on ball bearing glides and find the 3rd rack pretty useful too.  I clean the filter monthly roughly, never too much stuff there. I do find performance suffers a bit if I run out of rinse aid. I do keep my water HOT, set as high as the heater will allow, but the DW uses such a small amount of water that after the first rinse the water has cooled down, I have a long run to the kitchen about 30'+ so if I think of it while it's running I will turn on the faucet and run some hot water. I do use the Sani rinse option but never use heated drying, if I open it right after the cycle ends the dishes flash dry, but mostly I just unload in the AM when I get up, often the interior is still a little warm.

 

Hope you have similar success with your Maytag


Post# 1144035 , Reply# 20   3/8/2022 at 13:02 (272 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

I have a Maytag that I got in 2019, with that wash system. It cleans very well.
I only use the Auto cycle, or sometimes Normal. I don't use the extra heat, heat dry, or any options... Just the Auto button. And it usually takes 1h20 minutes approximately, and everything comes out clean.

Here is a video of the inside wash action (not my video)


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Post# 1144058 , Reply# 21   3/8/2022 at 15:59 (272 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
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I've had the whirlpool point voyager and it did clean for the most part. It did leave residue in the glasses. I didn't like how the jets were arranged. They didn't reach the corners very well.

Post# 1144091 , Reply# 22   3/8/2022 at 20:30 (272 days old) by maytaga806 (Putnam, Michigan)        
GELaundry4ever

Iíve recorded mine on the inside and itís comparable to a powerclean, the upper wash arm is identical to the direct feed powercleans, the jets are thinner. Did you ever use rinse aid or too much detergent? When it ran fine things came out looking expensive, I donít think I ever pulled a dirty dish out of it since weíve owned it. The old spray arm from our jetclean point voyager will be going into my powerclean, the cause the jets are thinner itíll spin much faster increasing performance due to the increased flow of water in the powerclean compared to the slightly weaker feed on the point voyagers. There is a video of this on YouTube that a member here posted with the old arm compared to the new one. It spins significantly quicker with the upper Maytag arm. The upper arm will now then spin just as quick as the stainless lower one in the PC. Iím wondering if the rack will also fit too because itís the exact one they used in the Whirlpool Gold and ultrawash PC models, the one with arches in it. We will have to seeÖkeeping these old racks anyways they are in grade A condition still.

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Post# 1144140 , Reply# 23   3/9/2022 at 11:42 (271 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
new maytags

I'd love to see how the new maytags clean with their alternating wash arms.

Post# 1154599 , Reply# 24   7/18/2022 at 08:56 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
maytag dishwashers

I use rinse aid. I would do the same thing in the maytag.

Post# 1154601 , Reply# 25   7/18/2022 at 10:37 by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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it sort of resemble the kitchenaid dishwasher i have as daily driver minus te 3 rack

Post# 1154628 , Reply# 26   7/18/2022 at 18:58 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Cleaning DW

I highly recommend using citric acid. It cleans like you wouldn't believe.


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