Thread Number: 89914
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Miele sensor electronic W784 |
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Post# 1145356 , Reply# 1   3/28/2022 at 01:17 (753 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Several current and former member have same or similar washer, so hopefully will chime in soon with responses.
Your washer has what Miele called "rapid advance" timer, but it's all or mostly electronics. If it were an electro/mechanical timer/programmer one would guess a timer motor has gone wonky. Apparently Miele did have issues with electronics for this series of washing machines. Perhaps that is why previous owners left it sat sitting for nearly 20 years... www.automaticwasher.org/c... |
Post# 1145364 , Reply# 2   3/28/2022 at 05:05 (753 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Jamie and I are in the somewhat curious position of each having this Miele washer and matching tumble drier and one of the set having the same problem with the rapid advance timer - in my case its the drier, the washer (which features in both videos above) is fine, the programmer in the drier just goes round and round. So any help with this problem would be appreciated by us both.
I would post a video of the machine in operation but there is literally nothing to see as it has a solid door Al |
Post# 1145367 , Reply# 4   3/28/2022 at 05:50 (753 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1145372 , Reply# 5   3/28/2022 at 08:05 (753 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Have you tried the obvious first choice? Ringing Miele to see if they will give any indication as to what is wrong? Know from experience getting any information from them about older appliances is often like talking to brick. But you never know...
Having only recently dealt with a timer/programmer issue with our vintage (ok ancient) Miele washer, next suggestion is to start looking for either NOS or even used programmer/timer. Miele UK should at least still have information on parts (such as a diagram) and hopefully including numbers. Then you at least would know what you're seeking in terms of replacement. Other members might know, but am sure there are one or more FB groups for European laundry appliances. You could also try posting your query there in aid of getting suggestions. |
Post# 1145380 , Reply# 7   3/28/2022 at 11:30 (753 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 1145385 , Reply# 8   3/28/2022 at 11:50 (753 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"Unfortunately Miele UK have gotten rid of a lot of the old people that knew about the older machines so they are pretty useless now."
Oh you too then? It's been like that on this side of pond for some time now. Though if one understands correctly Miele USA had a management reshuffle. Result was new man in charge made changes which helped many to abandon ship. Miele tech support here no longer will give any sort of information along those lines. They will book call outs, and pretty much nothing else. It pays to keep one's eyes out for spares, even if on the continent. You never know what will turn up and when. According to my tech manual W770, W772, W783, and W784 are all part of same model series, one main difference is last two are fully electronic controls, while first lot are electronic with also mechanical controls. |
Post# 1145418 , Reply# 9   3/28/2022 at 21:13 (752 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"They do at least have the parts lists on their site now and the part number for the rapid advance timer is 1569664 (Timer MTA 600.11L) though the most recent one is 1569666 (timer MTA 600.11N). Unfortunately its no longer available."
Oh I don't know... https://www.ebay.at/itm/224443525536... |
Post# 1145430 , Reply# 10   3/29/2022 at 04:12 (752 days old) by jamiew79 (Newcastle )   |   | |
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OOO, Thanks for sending this, I will try and see if I can order it. Thanks, Jamie |
Post# 1145477 , Reply# 13   3/29/2022 at 16:37 (752 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Now we might be on to something.
Door most certainly should NOT open during spin cycle and or high water levels. My Miele is of a similar model (under the bonnet at least) and pressing "Door" button does nothing once washer has filled above certain level, and or is spinning. There is feedback between door lock and machine that does this, and any issue with former could cause problems with machine operation. Sometimes when my washer's door is closed, but not seated properly, it won't start or do anything else. Have to use emergency door release switch to open, then close properly and all is well. Open front of washer, find wiring schematic and have a look tracing circuit from door lock to electronics. It *might* be that either a faulty door lock and or some fault (such as lose wire) is causing machine to believe door isn't closed. That would mean machine wouldn't progress through cycles. It also could explain why you can open door when shouldn't. Some where inside machine you should find |
Post# 1145917 , Reply# 16   4/6/2022 at 09:38 (744 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)   |   | |
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Great result. Well done to Launderess and to Jamie. |
Post# 1145921 , Reply# 17   4/6/2022 at 10:38 (744 days old) by Marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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Post# 1146047 , Reply# 18   4/8/2022 at 10:37 (742 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Glad to be of service....
Have to keep these older Miele washers going! How ever did you manage? Could have sworn that eBay listing said "no shipping". Then again could have been mistaken. Am glad you got yourself and machine sorted. Sometimes if possible (and on offer for a good price) just to swap out malfunctioning part with new. You'll do a video? |
Post# 1146113 , Reply# 19   4/9/2022 at 10:07 (741 days old) by Jamiew79 (Newcastle )   |   | |
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Hi Laundress, After messaging a few times I managed to get it sent. He also had an electronic unit for the machine so I’ve bought that as a spare just in case. I will definitely do some videos and put them on my YouTube channel |
Post# 1146145 , Reply# 20   4/9/2022 at 20:32 (740 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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*LOL*
Always lay in a supply of NOS spares for vintage Miele washers and dryers when spotted on offer, especially if at a good price. While Miele USA, Europe or elsewhere will give the official line "model is obsolete, we no longer stock parts....", there often is still a bit left out there somewhere. Long story short if your Miele washer, dryer, or dishwasher is at or over 15 years old, obtaining spares directly from them may prove difficult it not impossible. |