Thread Number: 90014
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Miele W1213 (US) main power wiring--help |
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Post# 1146050 , Reply# 1   4/8/2022 at 12:35 (742 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Have you tried reaching out to MieleUSA tech support.
Know they are not what they once were, but just maybe..... Also have you had a peek at the schematics which should trace out wiring. It should be just inside front of washer behind door. Technical/service manual stays same thing about electrical connection. But obviously Miele made changes at some point. cagrimmett.com/justanswer/W1113t... |
Post# 1146054 , Reply# 2   4/8/2022 at 12:43 (742 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"Does the 1213 simply use the two "hots" (ie, red/black, 240V difference) internally, and leave out the neutral (white)?"
Yes, I believe that is correct. See: www.automaticwasher.org/c... Or: www.houzz.com/discussions... |
Post# 1146080 , Reply# 4   4/8/2022 at 20:52 (742 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1146103 , Reply# 6   4/9/2022 at 03:33 (742 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Made liberal use of 120v/208v-240v power. Some components ran off 120v, others needed 208v-240v (mainly heating elements). This proves maddening for those of us with such machines as parts such as water solenoids are 120v, not the 208v-240v used by similar models sold in Europe.
IIRC 11XX and 12XX washers came after 19XX series and Miele obviously made some changes in terms of internal wiring/parts. Seem to recall reading a post here in group that little to nil in 11XX or 12XX washers runs on 120v. As a new member shall give my standard of provided advice; it pays to search archives of this wonderful group. Over years many, many members have contributed much valuable information. Some no longer post regularly, others have passed on from this earth, but never the less their contributions remain. "I'll explain: this machine only uses 240V so, because each hot is at 180 degrees from each other (in frequency), the Hots cancel each other out. No Neutral is needed, as with regular 120V things. So, in my case although there are 4 wires on the plug end, inside only the Hots and Ground are connected. They tie-off the Neutral inside, therefore it does nothing. And, because the previous owner cut the plug off mine, I've actually replaced the plug with a NEMA L6-30--meaning it's only 3-wire but the plug has to be twisted to remove (that's what the "L" stands for: locking) it from the socket. Just as safe (actually safer) than what Miele supplies and it's only 3-wire." www.automaticwasher.org/c... Glad you got things sorted! Happy washing! |
Post# 1146148 , Reply# 7   4/9/2022 at 20:45 (741 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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This does a better explanation than one ever could...
diy.stackexchange.com/questions/... Since your Miele washer has nothing inside which runs on 120v it can use 240v with two hots out of phase with each other. Each change of phase causes one wire to become the "neutral". This accomodates North American electrical grid where 240v is two 120v out of phase with each other. OTOH in Europe where 240v power is usually supplied by one wire, there you do have a neutral, and of course ground. |