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Post# 1157490   8/20/2022 at 23:59 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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well it works to an extent

I just cannot get the pilot light to stay lit

I'm hoping it is the thermocouple as the burner assenbly is NLA

appliance repair places want 60-70 dollars just to come out to diagnose the problem

Then parts and labor on top of that





Post# 1157491 , Reply# 1   8/21/2022 at 00:07 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        

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Did you just get this? If so, do you know what type gas it was using before?

If you're on propane and it was using natural gas before, or vice versa, the burner tips are different for each.


Post# 1157499 , Reply# 2   8/21/2022 at 01:33 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Iíve never had issues with the pilot light going out on my 1973 Maytag DG306, but Iíve dealt with the pilot going out since I didnít hold the red lever down long enough and had to start the process all over again but usually had success the second time since I held it down for a good solid minute. Like bradfordwhite said if you are on propane and using it on natural gas or vice versa, the burner tips are different hence why the pilot is not staying lit. If you light the pilot and hold it down for a good minute, should stay lit but if itís not staying lit after the red lever is depressing, you have a bad thermal couple.

Also check to be sure that the gas valve at the wall is fully open along with the internal gas valve since if either of those arenít fully open it wonít allow for good gas flow causing the pilot not to stay lit. Check the gas line to be sure itís not pinched or kinked since that can cause a problem with gas flow not allowing the pilot to stay lit. The pilot tube can also be clogged with dust or lint not allowing for the pilot to fully warm the thermal couple causing issues with the pilot no to stay lit.


Post# 1157522 , Reply# 3   8/21/2022 at 09:58 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi I donít think your model number is right never heard of a 607 dryer but that probably doesnít matter.

When the pilot wonít stay lit and you have a proper pilot flame while youíre holding the lever you have a bad pilot safety this dryer does not have a thermocouple on it.

If you follow the instructions in the manual it may just be out of adjustment if youíre lucky otherwise you need the mercury filled pilot safety which they donít make anymore you may be able to find a good used one if youíre fortunate.

John L


Post# 1157551 , Reply# 4   8/21/2022 at 16:15 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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Bradfordwhite

I have had this for decades I got it after I got the A606s suds saver washer

It is natural gas it should have the right tips and orifices for natural gas

Maytag85

i checked the inside valve and gave it a turn or two but I will turn it again just to make sure

the outside valve was off but will turn it again a couple of times

the gas line is flexed behind the dryer I'll check to make sure

yes it may be dust and lint in it but it seems to be cleared at this time


John

actually it is a DG606 with a sunburst panel but the rest is vintage




I got this from Hessions maytag some years ago

it went thro the refurbishment process link my Maytag washer did

then they installed it in my basement washer club studio with new flex gas line

right now it is staying lit I will keep an eye on it

thanks for the ideas I will implement them

I have to be especially careful with this

I had the pilot door open while it was running and was checking it out

I had my face away from the door when the burner lit with a whoosh and flame flashed from the opening

boy that was scary

Now I am careful around the pilot door


Post# 1157553 , Reply# 5   8/21/2022 at 16:46 by qsd-dan (West)        

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I had a DG306 for a short time and could not get the pilot to stay lit even after holding the red lever down for several minutes. I fired up the dryer and lit the burner that way (sort of dangerous, I'm sure) and the pilot remained lit thereafter. Probably not the safest method but it did work. Now that I think about it, I bet there's a long purge required to get all of the air out of the lines.

Post# 1157565 , Reply# 6   8/21/2022 at 19:03 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        

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It's probably safest to convert it to an electronic ignition burner. customization

Post# 1157566 , Reply# 7   8/21/2022 at 19:28 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I considered converting my Maytag DG306 to electronic ignition back in 2019 when I brought it back to life after sitting for decades but didnít have the parts to do so at the time. The easiest way I came up with to convert to electronic ignition is to use a Whirlpool gas valve with the spark igniter that some of the Brazilian Whirlpool gas dryers use in South America since the opening of the burner cone appear to be the same dimensions, literally all Iíd have to do with that type of gas valve is install it and hook it up to the existing wire connector and thatís literally all there is to it.

Post# 1157846 , Reply# 8   8/25/2022 at 15:20 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
well phooey

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well I got a vintage look at dryer

The pilot will not light and what I am told and research you have to replace the entire gas valve unless I an mistaken

out better experts can chime in on this


Post# 1157861 , Reply# 9   8/25/2022 at 18:13 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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If you can not even get the pilot to light you either have air in the line or a clogged pilot orifice.

 

Have you bled the gas line ?, loosen the union at the gas burner and turn on the gas till you smell strong gas if you have not used this dryer in a long time or if it was just installed.

 

Other than that take the gas burner assembly out of the dryer and take it to an appliance repair place that can test and fix it.

 

I can sometimes suggest a place but with snarky back ground like Earth I have no idea where you live and your ability to make repairs.


Post# 1157955 , Reply# 10   8/26/2022 at 20:49 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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the pilot lights but as soon as I let go of the lighting lever it goes out

the pilot has stayed lit in the past

Pilot flame is nice and strong

Main burner flame is strong

the dryer dries the clothes fast

The problem lies somewhere in the system that keeps the pilot light lit


Post# 1157971 , Reply# 11   8/26/2022 at 23:55 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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The pilot safety is either out of adjustment or more likely has failed, this was the most common problem with these gas burner assemblies.

 

The PS is NLA but you might find someone that has one to sell, they contain a small amount of mercury and they stopped using this type of safety many years ago on gas appliances.

 

John L.


Post# 1158208 , Reply# 12   8/29/2022 at 18:47 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
part 2

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well thanks to everyone for the info

at this point I am going to store it in my basement

Going to source a vintage gas dryer if I can

maybe my business friend still has one he can deliver and install for me


Post# 1158923 , Reply# 13   9/6/2022 at 18:57 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
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I am going to pick out a dryer

I am aiming for vintage but I may have to get what i can

thanks for the help and the suggestions


Post# 1159652 , Reply# 14   9/16/2022 at 14:20 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
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in progress of getting a dryer

Post# 1159950 , Reply# 15   9/19/2022 at 19:36 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
update 2

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yes new dryer is needed

in addition to the pilot wont light neither will the main burner

I think the pilot light issue goes to the main burner as well


Post# 1159961 , Reply# 16   9/19/2022 at 22:19 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        

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I wonder if anyone has ever converted a gas dryer to 220 volt electric by using the power from the existing timer to power a relay that would control the 220volt 5000 watt heater that could go in place of the gas burner.

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Post# 1159964 , Reply# 17   9/20/2022 at 00:06 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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I donít think it would be possible to put a heating element in place in the burner cone on a Maytag Gas HOH dryer, you probably would scorch the front seal that helps direct the air through the burner cone since the heat is more intense and radiates from the area of the heating element/heater box than from a flame on a gas dryer.

Post# 1159965 , Reply# 18   9/20/2022 at 00:46 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        

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The soft heat of an easy to control electric element contained INSIDE the metal duct
vs
the standing pilot and highly explosive gas burner that isn't even completely contained inside the metal duct.

I'll go with the electric.

Just rip out that stinky gas burner, clean up all the lint and soot in the area, slide a nice new Whirlpool (or other brand that fits best) 5000+ watt dryer element into the duct and secure, then rewire the dryer with the relay. Easy.

Use the red and purple wires to control the relay.


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Post# 1159966 , Reply# 19   9/20/2022 at 01:03 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        
Wow, Amazon makes it easy

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Can buy an entire element and sensor kit.

Then just need a junction block, cord, and some wire.

When I think back to how many gas dryers I've had that were in good condition but I couldn't do anything with them because they were gas....
could have converted them.



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Post# 1159967 , Reply# 20   9/20/2022 at 02:45 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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I donít buy the ďstinky explosives gas burnerĒ along with the ďhighly explosive gas burner that isnít completely contained in the metal ductĒ since Iíve been using gas dryers throughout the years and havenít had ANY of those issues. Since you donít like natural gas, I suggest you write a check to someone who has a all electric home, youíll be shocked when you have to pay a $500+ (in some cases close to $1000 electric bills) vs someone who has natural gas appliances with a much cheaper electric bill.

Post# 1159969 , Reply# 21   9/20/2022 at 06:46 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Converting heat sources on clothes dryers

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We have converted many dryers from electric to gas and a few from gas to electric over the years to suit situations.

We have converted far more electric ones to more desirable gas dryers because theyíre more valuable and better for the planet to use.

If you have the appropriate parts from a donor dryer itís easy to do Iíve also use heat relays like the one suggested in reply number 16 to do it as well.

Brad it would be interesting to see you cram a 5000 W electric heating element in a Maytag halo if he gas dryer the only thing that would save it as a lotta good safety thermostats it would probably be about as successful as your remotely mounted window air conditioner lol

Back in the early 70s my Maytag sales representative converted his old Highlander gas HOH dryer to electric because he moved to Maryland to an all electric house.

One time when he was on a business trip the dryer stopped heating and his wife called a local Maytag guy to come look at it and the guy opened up the little door down in the front and told her the
problem is the pilots out, he had left the gas burner in place but also installed the new electric heater shroud in the dryer and put the regular heating element in it.

John L



Post# 1159981 , Reply# 22   9/20/2022 at 09:36 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        
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We don't need to go into the full details of how dangerous and dirty natural gas in fact is as that's been done in other posts. With an electric dryer you (might) pay a bit more (depending on if you have your own solar electric generation) and it's worth it. It's safer, cleaner, easier to control, and doesn't explode. The monthly usage cost is not the only expense to consider.

I only present the conversion option to Pete since he's having issues currently with his hoh dryer. Also it sounds like this dryer is otherwise appreciated. Typically with an electric dryer there's very little that can go wrong with the heater.

I also had never thought about converting a gas dryer to electric using a relay and found that it would be rather simple and affordable. If a person is handy, has a dryer cord and some 10 gg wire, they could convert for about $100. You'll spend much more than that just getting an appliance repair tech out, and that's if you can find one that will even know how to service a dryer of this age.


Post# 1159986 , Reply# 23   9/20/2022 at 11:01 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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Gas dryers are NOT as dangerous as you might think they are. Thereís no sense in arguing about how natural gas is dangerous etc since it takes for more resources to generate electricity (would be less if there were more nuclear power plants in existence) than it is to send natural gas to your home. If Natural gas was REALLY that dangerous then people would have moved on from natural gas appliances a LONG TIME AGO but since there are more regulations on natural gas appliances compared to many years ago, they have gotten safer to the point itís on par with electric.

Post# 1160032 , Reply# 24   9/20/2022 at 21:27 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        
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As I stated earlier, this post is about Peters hoh dryer not working.

 

We've had discussions of facts about the dangers of gas in our homes here:

 www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

and here:

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

we've even talked about how bad heat pumps are here:

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

there's even the discussions about entire cities banning new gas service installations here:

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

and we've all seen the very real videos of the odd gas main or house blowing up due to leaking gas, but that's not important here.

Lets respect this post for Petes dryer.  All those other posts can be continued.  I'd be happy to discuss it with you there.

Pete's looking for solutions to fix his dryer.


Post# 1160042 , Reply# 25   9/20/2022 at 23:55 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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You basically are arguing about nothing and literally keep on beating on the same dead horse over and over and over again and frankly you are going about things the way I did when I first joined the forum back in 2017 and yes I was 18 at the time but since I am now 23, Iíve matured quite a bit and have gained some wisdom since then. Thereís no real point on arguing about on how dangerous natural gas is and I could form the very same arguments on how electricity can be dangerous but again thereís no real sense in arguing over something trivial since any fuel source wether it be electricity or natural gas since they both have their dangers along with their pros and cons.

Post# 1160065 , Reply# 26   9/21/2022 at 14:06 by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Cars are dangerous, do we stop driving? They use gas.....


Post# 1160512 , Reply# 27   9/27/2022 at 18:05 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
update 3

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well it started working again by accident

Post# 1160518 , Reply# 28   9/27/2022 at 19:29 by qsd-dan (West)        
well it started working again by accident

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Was a BFH involved? Be honest, lol.

Post# 1160521 , Reply# 29   9/27/2022 at 19:45 by bradfordwhite (West Coast, U.S.)        

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That's not fair!
You were just on the verge of getting a replacement.

This requires something devious like breaking it on purpose to get even! ha-HAA.

--

...or you could just get a different dryer if you want one. No excuses necessary.


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Post# 1161777 , Reply# 30   10/15/2022 at 17:21 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
update 4

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more to come here folks


Post# 1163386 , Reply# 31   11/7/2022 at 15:30 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
update 5

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well the deed is done thou

Post# 1163751 , Reply# 32   11/12/2022 at 17:08 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
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go to this link for part 2

www.automaticwasher.org/c...


Post# 1163760 , Reply# 33   11/12/2022 at 19:41 by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
more update

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the dryer had more problems than pilot light problems sadly


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