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Thread Number: 91246
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Suggested replacement for Miele W1986? |
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Post# 1157561 , Reply# 1 8/21/2022 at 18:21 (995 days old) by littlegreeny  (Milwaukee, WI) |
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Hopefully someone here knows where you can find a new pump. If not, I suggest you go with another Miele since you are used to the European way of fabric care now. Their W1 washers with TwinDos automatic detergent dispensers are wonderful. I have the WXR/TXR860 set which is quite pricy but to me it's worth having the touch screens and the ability to customize the options and then save my favorite cycles.
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Post# 1157589 , Reply# 2 8/21/2022 at 22:32 (995 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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240 Volt Drain Pump ?? | ||
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Post# 1157818 , Reply# 5 8/25/2022 at 08:03 (991 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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While Miele does or did produce many parts in house for their appliances, not everything comes under that heading.
Often pumps, timers, solenoid valves and other bits came from third party manufacturers. Pumps for Miele washers of 19XX and before vintage usually were made by Hanning. www.directrepair.eu/drain... Sadly MieleUSA tech/customer support is no longer what it once was, so getting any information via telephone or online regarding details about parts or installation is largely verboten. To best of my knowledge W19XX series washing machines by Miele sold in USA used 230v-240v pumps at 50hz www.automaticwasher.org/c... https://www.ebay.com/itm/164003880712... m.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeig... My Miele washer is older than yours, and thus have spent more hours than care to recall sat sitting in front of computer researching and otherwise running spare parts to ground. If you've not done so already suggest pulling electrical schematic papers from washer (should be just inside front door when swung open), and see what there is about wiring/power supply to pump. | ||
| Post# 1157843 , Reply# 7 8/25/2022 at 14:41 (991 days old) by richnz (New Zealand) | ||
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in 230/240v land the drain pumps are interchangeable between dishwashers and washing machines. Older WAMA seem to have a fan of sorts on the back but newer ones don’t. I don’t know what its like where you live. | ||
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Post# 1158221 , Reply# 10 8/29/2022 at 22:47 (987 days old) by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI) |
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T1 Dryer Times | ||
| Post# 1158298 , Reply# 11 8/31/2022 at 04:11 (985 days old) by richnz (New Zealand) | ||
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Interesting Interesting that this is a 90w pump. Did it have to lift water to a particular height. Look on eBay at Miele dishwasher pumps. They might not have the same 90w but they might just do the trick. | ||
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Post# 1158325 , Reply# 12 8/31/2022 at 14:16 (985 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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There's always plan "B"
Buy another Miele 19XX washer in good to excellent condition to use as parts donor.
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Post# 1158327 , Reply# 13 8/31/2022 at 14:26 (985 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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I must be slipping... | ||
| Post# 1158661 , Reply# 16 9/4/2022 at 13:50 (981 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
i would reccomend this model
i would reccomend this top load washer since it has good cleaning and rinsing power
www.maytag.ca/en_ca/washe... | ||
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Post# 1158710 , Reply# 18 9/5/2022 at 05:19 (980 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Like, in 5% of the times it would tangle anyway. If I mixed the sheets in, it would tangle most likely and once something tangles something, some patch will always damp. If nothing major tangles, everything gets dry. It just happened to happen once every now and then something caught something and then one or two items remained damp. | ||
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Post# 1158839 , Reply# 20 9/6/2022 at 04:57 (979 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1158942 , Reply# 22 9/6/2022 at 21:41 (979 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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| Post# 1159104 , Reply# 23 9/9/2022 at 03:05 (976 days old) by richnz (New Zealand) | ||
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Your old pump Does it turn freely? It can be taken apart by pulling off the fan part (Not the impeller end). There are two long screws that hold it together that can be undone with pliers. | ||
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Post# 1159173 , Reply# 24 9/9/2022 at 21:37 (976 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"Interesting that this is a 90w pump." | ||
| Post# 1159223 , Reply# 25 9/10/2022 at 15:10 (975 days old) by scottsb (New Jersey) | ||
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@richnz Yes, it turns freely. Why would I take it apart? Not sure I follow? | ||
| Post# 1159356 , Reply# 26 9/11/2022 at 23:23 (973 days old) by richnz (New Zealand) | ||
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@scottsb It was in case the impeller being stuck was the issue. It could also become a Frankenstein pump, where parts could be grafted from another. It would be a shame to throw away a whole machine due to a pump. | ||
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Post# 1216781 , Reply# 28 10/16/2024 at 05:11 (208 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1216884 , Reply# 29 10/17/2024 at 21:36 (207 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"I can't believe a simple drain pump is going to obsolete a machine that is in otherwise perfect condition. Shame on you Miele."
As one who owns a Miele washer of older vintage than yours (and as a consequence also long deemed obsolete by Miele), can understand your feelings. That being said leave us not be to hasty in vilifying Miele. Production of W 1986 (and W 1926 as well IIRC) began in 08/2002 and ended in 10/2004. Miele promises to stock parts for fifteen (15) years after an appliance model has been discontinued. That is quite impressive and almost unheard of then and certainly now in appliance industry. By 2019 Miele was at end of 15 year period for now obsolete W 1986 thus as with rest of 19xx series no further parts would come from Germany. If one is in Europe there likely may have been various stashes of parts in warehouses, repair supply places, techs (both Miele and third party), but on this side of pond not so much. Making matters worse for W 1986 and W1926 is Miele only produced those larger capacity washers for North American market. Thus parts may not be easily if at all found in Europe. All of us who have older Miele washers or other appliances declared "obsolete" by Miele are in same position. Was lucky to find a spare timer for my "obsolete" Miele W 1070 to keep the old girl going. Don't know what am going to do when pump and solenoid valves go because they are all long since NLA. | ||
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Post# 1216896 , Reply# 31 10/18/2024 at 06:23 (206 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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120V components in a 240 V machine
Nothing unusual about this in the US that’s one of the beauties of our power supply, most US electric ranges,my old combination, washer dryers and just about any 240 V clothes dryer in the United States have a 240 V heating elements and 120 V motors.
Typical electric range runs its clock and controls on 120 V right down to the oven lightbulb. Electric dryers always have a 120 V motor motor, etc. We have also fixed Miele Front load washers that had a 240 V pump by putting a 120 V pump or inlet valve in the machine when we couldn’t find it 240 V one and just rewiring and grounding the one side of the item to the neutral. I wouldn’t get too hung up on finding a drain pump with the exact same wattage the fact that it’s a 90 W motor does not mean it’s necessarily that much stronger it might just be less efficient often times 50 or 60 W motor will do the same job it’s a matter of getting something to fit properly That I would worry about. John | ||
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Post# 1223197 , Reply# 33 1/29/2025 at 13:21 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Post# 1223229 , Reply# 34 1/30/2025 at 03:52 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 1227949 , Reply# 35 4/3/2025 at 18:20 by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND) |
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Hello all!
I've been spending most of the day trying to find a drain pump for a w1986 that I plan on buying. Even with my two electrolux sets, I still miss my Miele laundry. I've been digging though technical documentation for several models trying to find pumps. I don't get why they only did this model run for two years and had no superseeded pumps after the model discontinued. What is stupid is on the newer models, the pumps are listed as 240v... On 120v machines. Anyways, I guess at this point, this post is aimed at viosca: The more I looked at the drawings, I got to thinking what if I just found an alternate housing and just put a different 120v pump in. What are your thoughts on this speed queen pump/housing? www.amazon.com/dp/B01AJHZ... Also, I've attached a few pics of part numbers. | ||
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Post# 1227993 , Reply# 36 4/4/2025 at 01:18 by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Wait I am almost 100% the W1986 is 240V and so is the drain pump... | ||
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Post# 1227994 , Reply# 37 4/4/2025 at 01:30 by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND) |
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Post# 1228020 , Reply# 38 4/4/2025 at 19:33 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA (considering moving to Temple, Texas)) |
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controls Are the controls dials, buttons, or touch screens? I don't like touch screens because they're inaccessible. | ||
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Post# 1228021 , Reply# 39 4/4/2025 at 20:15 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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"I am almost 100% the W1986 is 240V....."
Miele used typical North American dryer electrical connections for their "240v" washers of old. That is 120v/240v power connection, but very little inside washer requires 240v.
IIRC most of what was 240v inside W19xx, 12xx and other models was heater. Pumps, timer and many other bits were pure 120v. This has proven a huge headache for those trying to source parts for such machines. Spares for their European cousins are often plentiful enough or found, but are 208v-240v (not to mention 50hz). Some thought they could run a Miele 19XX series washer using a voltage converter (stepping 120v up to 240v), that couldn't happen either as machine needed the "120v" leg. Ironically early Miele washers imported to USA such as W1065 could be run purely on 120v by changing power connection. Sadly again (as one knows far too well) spares for those series from Europe are 240v so that's that. Miele swore for years they would never have a pure 120v washer in USA. That went by wayside and IIRC 12XX series was last of 120v/240v washers. The W30XX and (IIRC) 48XX series were 120v as have been every washer since. IIRC for bits that required 240v in say W30XX series Miele simply built in a small converter/transformer to swap voltage. | ||
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Post# 1228036 , Reply# 40 4/5/2025 at 06:36 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Strictly 240 V Miele washers | ||
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Post# 1228121 , Reply# 41 4/5/2025 at 20:52 by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND) |
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Post# 1228144 , Reply# 42 4/6/2025 at 08:24 by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post number 41, 240 V components
Good to know Joshua, I knew at some point they done this. I’m not familiar enough with the model numbers of.Miele Washers to know right off hand, which is which.
The earlier models did have all 240 V components because we’ve run into troubles changing bad inlet valves and water pumps on them and we were able to rewire and use 120 V components on these older models, that’s what I was mainly referring to. John L | ||
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