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Thread Number: 91365
/ Tag: Twin-Tub Washers
Servis super twin service |
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Post# 1158712 , Reply# 2 9/5/2022 at 06:30 (392 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac  (Canberra ACT) |
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Oh I don’t mean just removing the police, I meant removing I meant removing the entire pump assembly, so that way I could replace the seals inside it | ||
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Post# 1158714 , Reply# 3 9/5/2022 at 06:51 (392 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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Remove the entire pump That is the easy bit. It's a single bolt through the body of the pump. Maybe 1/2 inch nut? Should be pretty obvious. Just undo the nut, then slide the pump off the stud (bolt.) You can see the nut clearly in photo 2. Near the pulley. | ||
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Post# 1158721 , Reply# 4 9/5/2022 at 09:31 (392 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Oh cool, I’ll definitely do that tomorrow and You mean the knot in between the poly and the bolt with rust on it? | ||
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Post# 1158722 , Reply# 5 9/5/2022 at 09:32 (392 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Oh cool, I’ll definitely do that tomorrow and You mean the knot in between the poly and the bolt with rust on it?
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Post# 1158726 , Reply# 6 9/5/2022 at 11:37 (391 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Post# 1158727 , Reply# 7 9/5/2022 at 11:37 (391 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Post# 1158808 , Reply# 8 9/5/2022 at 20:36 (391 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Okay How do you take the front panel off? | ||
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Post# 1158816 , Reply# 9 9/5/2022 at 21:28 (391 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Good news I got the pump out Bad news is I don’t know no where the seal goes or even if there is a seal | ||
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Post# 1158817 , Reply# 10 9/5/2022 at 21:50 (391 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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So I’ve taken the pump apart completely, where would I find the seal for it and I noticed how there are appears to be some sort of little oiling well thing in the pump shaft, would that help create a seal or what?
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Post# 1158846 , Reply# 11 9/6/2022 at 05:56 (391 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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@Adam | ||
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Post# 1158848 , Reply# 13 9/6/2022 at 06:11 (391 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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@Adam aussie vac
Hmm I think it most likely would not turn as never known a Servis pump to not be primed, But a first time for everything...
Try cleaning all the gunk off the shaft I have a suspicion that the leak may not be repairable as there is no seal to my knowledge inside it was done bu machining a very smooth tight fitting shaft and you were right the oil in that port made it water tight all you can do is clean it all and grease it and see if you can get it to work. But if not maybe a replacement could work instead? | ||
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Post# 1158850 , Reply# 14 9/6/2022 at 06:13 (391 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Oh cool, I didn’t realise it was such a tight seal That oil actually makes the seal, that’s kind of surprising, I’ll try probably putting some three in one oil into it and then making sure that seals hopefully, | ||
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Post# 1158861 , Reply# 15 9/6/2022 at 08:15 (391 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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To replace the seal is easy . If it’s a standard lip seal these are available from all good bearing shops . The shaft should be made of of a non ferrous metal. Take a photo of the seal and post it . I’ve taken seals out and they have fallen to bits so i have taken the pump body and the impeller shaft and the seal shop will measure the diameters for you and get the correct size . The shaft size is the most critical element as the outer seal size can be bonded in using a good gasket silicone . I’ve found this works fine . Good luck but it’s an easy fix this is a pump I refurbed for a friend a few weeks ago . The seal is brand new . Best wishes Darren
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Post# 1158863 , Reply# 16 9/6/2022 at 08:43 (391 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Most can be saved
This is the pump before repair
You can see it’s not good plenty of holes . The red colour inside is a resin concoction I make to protect the metal surfaces from the water and soap to prevent further problems down the line … | ||
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Post# 1158872 , Reply# 17 9/6/2022 at 10:19 (390 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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It doesn’t appear to be a standard lip seal As it looks like it’s metal, I’ll take the pump back out of the twin tub and then grab photos of it, what would you recommend as a gasket material? | ||
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Post# 1158885 , Reply# 18 9/6/2022 at 11:45 (390 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Gasket | ||
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Post# 1158930 , Reply# 19 9/6/2022 at 20:21 (390 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Oh cool thank you I’ll be keeping in mind Oh cool thank you I’ll be keeping in mind, I honestly thought about getting some sort of auto gasket material | ||
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Post# 1158948 , Reply# 20 9/6/2022 at 22:13 (390 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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I took some photos, what do you guys think? | ||
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Post# 1158949 , Reply# 21 9/6/2022 at 22:15 (390 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Oh on a related note, I need one new wheel As that Wheel has quite a large flat spot (Castor wheel not pump wheel) | ||
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Post# 1158959 , Reply# 22 9/7/2022 at 01:45 (390 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Great news guys, I got the water seals out , I’ll be going to see if I can try and find some seals like it at the bearing supply store in Fyshwick | ||
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Post# 1158976 , Reply# 23 9/7/2022 at 09:18 (390 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Fair play
You have gotten further into a Servis pump than I have . I also see there is a groove around the shaft that would indicate a small O ring type of seal but as Darren has shown above he goes way deeper than I do when it comes to restoring anything. He does a superb job too as I have seen the finished articles.
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Post# 1158995 , Reply# 24 9/7/2022 at 14:33 (389 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Take the pump | ||
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Post# 1159031 , Reply# 26 9/8/2022 at 01:36 (389 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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So I’ve water tested it and it does still appear to leak, I’m probably actually just gonna electrify the pump does anybody know how to attach a switch onto The rotating lever? | ||
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Post# 1159035 , Reply# 27 9/8/2022 at 03:55 (389 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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It’s a pile of work to electrify | ||
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Post# 1159036 , Reply# 28 9/8/2022 at 04:29 (389 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Partially, not very fast As if it has trouble catching up, and water was leaking where the oil Goes into the pump, Past the seal that I already installed it fits on the shaft and it seems to gently slide in, do you think it might be the seal is not sealing to The outside of the pump? | ||
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Post# 1159037 , Reply# 29 9/8/2022 at 04:30 (389 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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And at the moment I don’t want to post pictures because It’s a pain to get the pump out and in the machine | ||
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Post# 1159083 , Reply# 30 9/8/2022 at 18:26 (388 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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Post# 1159087 , Reply# 31 9/8/2022 at 19:42 (388 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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I did not As I didn’t have any silicone | ||
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Post# 1159110 , Reply# 32 9/9/2022 at 05:01 (388 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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It will need a little bonding of silicone
When the pumps were manufactured the seals were often pressed into the housing of the pump and the tight thresholds between the seal and the housing achieve a good seal . However as the housing is worn and there would have been some corrosion it won’t achieve a reliable union between the two components so you will need a little silicone to bond the two together . There will be water passing behind the seal and into the oil port . …. Good luck but an EASY QUICK fix . Darren
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Post# 1159115 , Reply# 33 9/9/2022 at 07:19 (388 days old) by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT) |
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Would this silicone work?
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Post# 1159145 , Reply# 35 9/9/2022 at 13:11 (387 days old) by Slowspin66 (lincoln uk) |
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The silicone will be fine
Just be aware that the recess where the seal sits needs to be really clean . If you have a dremel clean it up with the mini sanding drum. If the impeller / shaft won’t spin make sure that the impeller blades are not catching on the body of the pump … if you have made a new gasket be aware that the blades can catch on a gasket that’s has excess material in its way This may help . Darren
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