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Thread Number: 91731
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Washer in Borateem POD ad |
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| Post# 1162534 10/26/2022 at 03:47 (541 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA) | ||
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What washer, brand and model, is that shown in that Borateem ad POD? | ||
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Post# 1162536 , Reply# 1 10/26/2022 at 04:28 (541 days old) by Easyspindry  (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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Philco? | ||
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Post# 1162537 , Reply# 2 10/26/2022 at 04:29 (541 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1162538 , Reply# 3 10/26/2022 at 05:37 (541 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.) | ||
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Definitely Philco from the mid-late 60's, but a lower end model since there is no fabric softener dispenser and the loading port is white instead of the speckled robin's egg blue as on the higher end models. | ||
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Post# 1162566 , Reply# 6 10/26/2022 at 12:27 (540 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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I don't know how often Philco updated the aesthetics and incremented the model years but it may be W-2G3 which is the 4th model of six in a 1967 brochure (available on AutomaticE.org) .... with the console area surrounding the control area masked in white to hide the branding and the Contourfill labeling on the loading port also masked. (I hope I don't get in trouble for including a couple small clip-outs from the brochure.) | ||
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Post# 1162651 , Reply# 9 10/26/2022 at 22:11 (540 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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The 1959-1960 solid-tub Philco washers are excellent machines, in 1961 they went to a perforated tub but kept the original rubber wave disk were also excellent machines and they produced these through 1964. The early design can turn over a very large easily and without much if any tangling, even with sheets or all long-sleeve shirts. In 1965 they enlarged the tub and changed the agitator disk which made for much less turn-over. I have to wonder why they modified their original excellent design so much for a larger tub, I would think a slightly larger original agitator would have worked better but who knows.
I washed a load in my '59 Philco washer today, 2 queen size sheets (one flat and one fitted), 6 pillow cases and 8 white t-shirts and the turn over was constant, I could have added even more to that load. Everything came out completely clean. All Philco washers do a spray-rinse in the first spin. The solid tubs spin out the water and reach full speed in about 60 seconds when the 1 minute spray rinse begins. They also do a 1 minute overflow rinse in the final minute of rinse agitation. Philco also had the best balancing system of any automatic I have ever seen. Here is the early Philco agitator, one of the best agitator designs ever invented in my opinion...
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Post# 1162654 , Reply# 10 10/26/2022 at 22:18 (540 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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Thanks guys for the replies. It certainly was an unusual agitation design, and it makes me wonder how they came up with it. I had read that the Philco’s could hold a lot of laundry, capacity. I wonder if that’s where Whirlpool came up with the Calypso design. Also wonder if they lasted a long time, the reliability. I never heard. Barry | ||
| Post# 1162667 , Reply# 11 10/27/2022 at 03:46 (540 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA) | ||
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Ditto from me for the replies! I've read in Philco ads that their fins contained water. | ||
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Post# 1162679 , Reply# 12 10/27/2022 at 10:14 (540 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1162717 , Reply# 15 10/27/2022 at 21:58 (539 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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Tom, That’s interesting about Whirlpool paying out for the patents. At the time I first saw the Calypso I had no idea how it would work. It’s too bad there was a class action lawsuit brought against Whirlpool. I saw quite a few that looks fairly new in the return heap behind Lowe’s. Barry | ||
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Post# 1162722 , Reply# 16 10/27/2022 at 22:29 (539 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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US patents expire after 17 years and then anyone can use whatever technology was patented without paying anything, so they wouldn't have been Philco's patents by the late 1990s when the Calypso was designed. The Philco patent that was referenced on back of the Automagic machines (2,902,851) would have expired in 1976.
I wonder who's patents they needed to use unless the tech you spoke to Tom had incorrect information. | ||
| Post# 1162731 , Reply# 17 10/28/2022 at 01:42 (539 days old) by toploadloyalist (San Luis Obispo, CA) | ||
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"Blades of Water" misconception I sit corrected. I shouldn't have taken that literally! | ||
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Post# 1162748 , Reply# 19 10/28/2022 at 11:23 (538 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Hi Tom, the class action law suit was about according to www.prweb.com/releases/20...
The class action suit alleges that there are inherent defects in Calypso washers. The complaint alleges that despite many complaints from consumers, Whirlpool and Sears have refused to notify consumers of the defect, repair the defect or recall the Calypsos. Instead, they have continued to sell the defective machines nationwide. According to the lawsuit, the Calypsos suffer from problems, such as U-Joint Failure, Circuit Board Malfunction, and filtration problems that cause streaking and poor quality washes. The suit seeks repair, replacement or compensation for all purchasers of the affected washers. As for patents being renewed I have worked with a few patent lawyers who inspected my machines for cases they were working on and they specifically told me that patents cannot be renewed. The net seems to back up what they told me. I'm certainly not trying to be a stickler here in anyway but I'm curious to know if that really is reason why the combos were not more widely produced. We certainly saw what happened with the Dual-Action agitator once the patent expired by the 90s, so many other manufacturers copied it after the 17 year wait was over.
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