Thread Number: 91782  /  Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
In your opinion, when was the true beginning of the end for Maytag?
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Post# 1163238   11/5/2022 at 21:21 (536 days old) by woodjack99 (Massachusetts/Virginia, USA)        

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I’ve heard they started using slightly cheaper parts in the early 80s when they switched from the center-dial to the dark panel, but those were still really good machines. I guess a bigger change was the switch from the helical Pitman transmission to the orbital one in 89. Even though the buyout wasn’t until 2006, I’d honestly say the last “true” (meaning old school) Maytags were the 90s Dependable Care series machines. So IMO, the Neptunes were the beginning of the end.

Pictured: my 1975 A107 on the right and 1985 A506 on the left. You can tell the metal in the 107 sounds “heavier,” like the dial and the buttons. Perhaps because it’s thicker and stronger.


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Post# 1163240 , Reply# 1   11/5/2022 at 21:36 (536 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York)        

Yes, I agree when they went to the orbital transmission was the beginning of the end. Their next step to manufacturing junk was when they marketed then old Norge designed washer under the Performa name, it was all down hill after that, followed by the super large capacity Atlantis, the Neptune and the egg beater, the Neptune TL.

Post# 1163241 , Reply# 2   11/5/2022 at 21:41 (536 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
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I would have to say was the introduction of the Norgetags Tall Tub Jetclean DWs and the SamsungTag Neptunes. While these machines performed their function well the build quality and reliability was garbage. A lot of poor management decisions and labor disputes with UAW did not help either.

Say what you will about WP but, had they not bought Maytag there would be no Maytag today.
WK78


Post# 1163242 , Reply# 3   11/5/2022 at 21:44 (536 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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The very beginning was probably after Fred Maytag II died, who was the last family member involved in the company's management. Definitely after they started buying out inferior companies in the 80's.

As for the Newton designed washers/dryers, I'd say mid 90's. The Neptune's were the final nail in the coffin although acquiring Amana financially hit them hard around the same time.

Acquiring Magic Chef, Norge, Hoover, and Amana were bonehead moves. I don't know the story on Hardwick.


Post# 1163250 , Reply# 4   11/5/2022 at 23:09 (536 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The beginning of the end of Maytag started with a the Neptune machines, Maytag shouldn’t even have bothered with those pitiful HE machines since it’s what ended up leading to their demise along with the Norge/Admiral/Magic Chef design and buying defunct companies as Dan mentioned. Some people like the Neptune machines along with the Norge/Admiral/Magic Chef machines which is fine, but would NEVER have any of those machines in my collection since it’s what ended up leading to Maytag’s demise. Maytag should have continued making machines like they did for decades and shouldn’t even bothered with the HE machine craze, sure their sales would dwindle down a little since their washers would still have a design which dates back to 1966 BUT would have a superior product compared to what was being made in the late 2000’s and early 2000’s. Probably would have a lot of market share IF genuine Maytag was still around making their own appliances since Whirlpool wouldn’t even be able to hold a candle to their washers in terms of reliability and dependability.

Post# 1163251 , Reply# 5   11/5/2022 at 23:09 (536 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The beginning of the end of Maytag started with a the Neptune machines, Maytag shouldn’t even have bothered with those pitiful HE machines since it’s what ended up leading to their demise along with the Norge/Admiral/Magic Chef design and buying defunct companies as Dan mentioned. Some people like the Neptune machines along with the Norge/Admiral/Magic Chef machines which is fine, but would NEVER have any of those machines in my collection since it’s what ended up leading to Maytag’s demise. Maytag should have continued making machines like they did for decades and shouldn’t even bothered with the HE machine craze, sure their sales would dwindle down a little since their washers would still have a design which dates back to 1966 BUT would have a superior product compared to what was being made in the late 2000’s and early 2000’s. Probably would have a lot of market share IF genuine Maytag was still around making their own appliances since Whirlpool wouldn’t even be able to hold a candle to their washers in terms of reliability and dependability.

Post# 1163252 , Reply# 6   11/5/2022 at 23:10 (536 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Post# 1163279 , Reply# 7   11/6/2022 at 11:48 (535 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I agree Neptune was probably the start. The NorgeTag machines were decent enough, a lower market entry machine. The AmanaTag machines were also an issue, never saw one worth fixing.


Post# 1163289 , Reply# 8   11/6/2022 at 13:47 (535 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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I blame the Norgetags and all the goofy acquisitions moreso than i’d blame the Neptune.
The Neptune was a good product and was really the US’s first introduction to front loaders for a whole generation. My aunts had the first 3000 series and it did well for several years.
But then they had the mold issue and repeated wax motor fails.
And Maytag fought them tooth and nail on those warranty claims.
They were so pissed they replaced it with an LG set. And that was over 10yrs ago!
The lawsuits were really the icing on the cake, in addition to that scumbag Ralph Hake.
(Hah I still remember his name and shit eating grin)


Post# 1163292 , Reply# 9   11/6/2022 at 14:34 (535 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Agreed that buying inferior brands sent Maytag careening down the slippery slope into the pick-off pool.  Typical misguided, greed-based decision making by clueless heirs.

 

As for the Neptunes, they got off to a rocky start, but the 2004 stacking set that came with my current home has served me well.  The washer uses plenty of water compared to modern FLs and goes right into spin mode.  I hope this set continues to impress me well past its looming 20th birthday.

 

Meanwhile, the '87 A712 keeps plugging along doing occasional dirty jobs at 35 years old and counting. 


Post# 1163300 , Reply# 10   11/6/2022 at 15:04 (535 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Ralph Hake

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Ah, yes, the former Whirlpool VP who helped Whirlpool finalize the sale...

Post# 1163302 , Reply# 11   11/6/2022 at 15:37 (535 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Maytag should have never even bothered with making the Neptune machines along with buying those inferior companies who should have just gone under.

As mentioned, Maytag would still be around if they never bothered with the Neptune machines along with buying such crappy companies like Norge, Amana, and Magic Chef.


Post# 1163308 , Reply# 12   11/6/2022 at 16:43 (535 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The original Neptune frontloader had no more long-term effect on Maytag than the Calypso did on Whirlpool.  Maytag's demise was due to other factors of more consequence.  IMO.


Post# 1163309 , Reply# 13   11/6/2022 at 16:44 (535 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Amana

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was a quality company, WRT refrigeration, and microwaves. Laundry, and cooking? Not so much.

 

I had always heard, that when Neptunes came out, Maytag dealers had to have in stock any part that might fail, so they could repair it quickly. Truth, or a tale?


Post# 1163318 , Reply# 14   11/6/2022 at 18:43 (535 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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The Neptune washers would have been successful if more time was spent in R&D and overbuilt them to be on the safe side. Instead, they pushed them out too soon.

They should have taken a page from Toyota with the Lexus LS400. Toyota spent something like a billion dollars on the project and overbuilt the living crap out of them to ensure they would be successful and reliable. It paid off.

I will give Maytag slack in certain areas that were largely unknown back then. It's common sense today to wipe the door gasket and leave the door ajar between uses, but that wasn't the case in the 90's and early 2000's. There were no "clean" cycles, and still like today, not enough hot water washes between cold washes. Most people back then were using way too much detergent yet still had mold/mildew/buildup/ungodly odors from the drums.


Post# 1163324 , Reply# 15   11/6/2022 at 20:19 (535 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I have a MAH4000 given to me by a friend several years ago when it developed bad bearings and the door boot caught a tear.  The door lock wax motor failed some years prior and damaged the associated components on the control board.  I found a repair kit online with an updated wax motor and replacements for the board components, repaired it at that time.  It had no other problems until the bearings.  I've dissassembled it.  Mexican farm employees for their agriculture and ranching operation were using it during the last years.  They tend to overdose detergent.  The spider is in excellent condition and drum/tub smutz was minimal.


Post# 1163328 , Reply# 16   11/6/2022 at 20:59 (535 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The worst thing about the Neptunes was that they severely shook customers' faith in Maytag when Maytag failed to honor warranties on Neptunes' circuit boards that were just over the warranty period when there was trouble related to the wax motor door lock or something related to it that fried the board. Maytag forced customers to pay for replacement of the board. I think it led to a court case. The suspension in the Neptune was wonky, too, and the tub had a propensity to fish tail with unbalanced loads. There was also strange software whereby Max Extract offered fewer attempts at balancing than the regular spin option.

Maytag's conservatism was responsible for a lot of their problems, like sticking with their small tub machines way too long before offering their only slightly larger tall tub machines that were still small in comparison to large capacity machines offered by other manufacturers. You can only get by so long by having Consumer Reports lie about the load capacity of the 16 gallon tub and, before that, the 12 gallon tub, all with the agitator designed for the large tub of the wringer washers. The argument could be made that Maytag's downfall started with their poorly designed automatics that were largely sold on the basis of the reputation of the Maytag conventional washers which had excellent washing action of standard size loads. Many Maytag owners, after having experience using another brand of automatic, did not buy a second Maytag.

I still remember the 1974, I think, issue of Consumer Reports with a large capacity Whirlpool washer and a standard tub Maytag on the cover. The Whirlpool washer had two laundry baskets in front of it while the Maytag had three and big print explaining that this was to show that the Maytag took three loads to wash what the Whirlpool could wash in two. Whoever did the purchasing for that washer report sure goofed up by buying the small tub Maytag. Earlier, Consumer Reports did a rating of one speed washing machines and the Maytag Fabric Matic ruined casement weave curtains washed on the Delicate Cycle. It was needless self injury to keep offering single speed machines when Sears had two speed machines far down in their line and two speed motors were not that much more expensive than single speed motors, but Maytag wanted customers who wanted a Maytag to pay for every feature.


Post# 1163339 , Reply# 17   11/6/2022 at 22:02 (535 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Maytag suffered some pretty bad management decisions from 1980's until going belly up and nabbed by Whirlpool.

First and foremost they were late to many games, things like being one of last major appliance manufactures to offer a dishwasher.

Good or bad Maytag bought Hardwick stoves then later Norge and Magic Chef because though late in game they finally realized where market was heading. Major appliance makers increasingly had to offer entire product lines: fridges, ranges, ovens, dishwashers..

Consumers looking to fit out a new kitchen or whatever, builders doing new homes, etc... all put pressure on dealers to offer product ranges from one source. Her Indoors liked in many instances having things match and so forth. There was also a value in having then as now place fitted out with appliances from one company. Miele, Bosch, Whirlpool, and many others long have done this.

Problem for Maytag is they couldn't make what they bought (which later included parent company of Hoover and Amana) work.

Disagree Maytag should have avoided "HE" washers and not done Neptune line. Knowing then what we all know now Maytag could have had a solid product and been streets ahead of Whirlpool and others by offering front loader washers.

Sadly as oft was case of Maytag management they never would be told. Disaster followed disaster as they treated customers who bought Maytag washers with issues like idiots. What should have been a bright spot ended up dragging Maytag's name through the mud and company into endless litigation.

In 1970's it was a heated battle between Maytag and Whirlpool washers. For most of that decade Maytag was top rated with CR coming in slightly second.








Where Whirlpool washers of that vintage shined over Maytag was in capacity and features.






Post# 1163340 , Reply# 18   11/6/2022 at 22:03 (535 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
The downfall of Maytag

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There were many factors that contributed to them getting in such bad financial shape.

 

First and foremost was bad management you had a cash rich company with very conservative right wing management that was very anti-union.

 

They also wanted to take on whirlpool Frigidaire and General Electric not an easy thing to do by going full line. Maytag should’ve stuck with washers and dryers maybe dishwashers and disposers possibly a few other things but they didn’t need to be fooling with refrigerators and such and certainly not things like Hoover vacuum cleaners.

 

Buying  Admiral, magic chef, hard work, Norge was ridiculous all of these companies were going to go out of business they should’ve been left to go out of business. They probably should’ve gone after Amana that was the only quality company they ever bought and it had its own problems.

 

Neptune front loading washer did contribute to problems, like every new appliance that Maytag brought out since the late 40s there were a lot of problems with it initially but they were trying to cure them, Maytag never had the great engineers that WP, GE and WCI had. Biggest single problem but would hardly of cost them a dollar to fix they put a light in a machine that you could not turn off so guess what people closed the damn door.

 

Other problems were a lack of a window a wonky suspension system and a tilted tub that caused tangling none of those are the hallmark of a quality product.

 

When I was on the initial training for the Neptune front loader I pointed out the fact that you couldn’t turn off the light, they also put a crappy main water sealing  it and I told him that it would leak leak and not have a long life, they changed it about three or four years later to the type I would’ve used.  [ they used a face type lip seal but changed to a concentric lip seal a few years later like every other FL washer uses worldwide ]

 

Good thing about Maytag is their final top load washers we’re by far the best performing Toploader automatics that they ever made, their dryers also got pretty good toward the end.

 

Their disposer was way too expensive to make but they could’ve just gone to the premium end of the market and probably continued making them.

 

Their final tall tub dishwasher was riddled with problems They made over 40 improvements in in the first four years but they were getting a pretty good and they could’ve continued making that.

 

If you want a vintage Maytag grab one of those later top load washers with the load sensor agitator and orbital transmission. The dryers that went with them were pretty good also [ but never as good as what WP was selling for much less ]  Many people like the Neptune front loaders you want to rebuild one the parts are still out there.

 

John L


Post# 1163344 , Reply# 19   11/6/2022 at 22:59 (535 days old) by Egress (Oregon)        
on the topic of the neptune door...

didn't the door of the neptune contain a large counterbalance weight or something along the lines of that? I read that somewhere but could never figure out if it was actually the case or not.

Post# 1163345 , Reply# 20   11/6/2022 at 23:12 (535 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Neptune

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There was a counter balance wait inside the door with four springs attached.

If they had used a better suspension system and had a better cabinet they would’ve needed it nobody else uses that type of thing today, there are some Samsung’s that have a vibration weight in the top of the machine. And some Electrolux products.


Post# 1163346 , Reply# 21   11/6/2022 at 23:42 (535 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
Reply #17 & Reply #18

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That’s what I am saying, Maytag shouldn’t have even bothered with the Neptune or HE machines and should have continued to make washers and dryers like they did for many years. Not repeating myself, but Maytag would be far ahead of everyone else if they were still genuine Maytag since their washers could literally run for decades and the only repairs they would need would be belts or a pump. Maytag could have perfected their washers even more for dependability, longevity, and washing/rinsing performance which would make them even more reliable more than ever.

Post# 1163353 , Reply# 22   11/7/2022 at 01:29 (535 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Yes, but even Maytag would have had to deal with government regulations forcing water/energy restrictions on washing machines. As with Whirlpool, GE, and everyone else this would have meant offering H-axis washing machines or some sort of "HE" anyway.

In a perfect world I suppose HE regulations never would have come down pike and Maytag could have continued building top loaders of old.


Post# 1163354 , Reply# 23   11/7/2022 at 03:09 (535 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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"In a perfect world I suppose HE regulations never would have come down pike and Maytag could have continued building top loaders of old."

Actually, Maytags older models before the second rinse option came into effect in the early 90's are actually more conserving of water than a modern Speed Queen. Their larger capacity models used 19 gallons of water, so with a deep rinse and 1 minute spray rinse put it around 42-ish gallons total use. A Speed Queen TC5003WN washer uses 24 gallons per deep fill. With a deep rinse, spray rinse, and 2nd deep rinse, the machine is at a whopping 73 gallons per cycle.

42 gallons vs 73 gallons and the Maytag spins at full speed with a solid one minute spray rinse which totally negates the need for a second deep rinse more than 95% of the time. I'd say the Maytag wins that round of efficiency standards. That's not factoring in a full control of the timer, water water levels, and no dumbed down water temps.


Post# 1163357 , Reply# 24   11/7/2022 at 06:34 (534 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        

When they were taken over by Whirlpool.

—Charles—


Post# 1163420 , Reply# 25   11/8/2022 at 04:42 (533 days old) by Rapunzel (Sydney)        

Arrogance and laziness led to the demise of Maytag.

Post# 1163427 , Reply# 26   11/8/2022 at 09:01 (533 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Re; Neptunes, etc.

the Neptunes had a door latch wax motor issue, but I think wau worse for Maytag was
branding a Norge washer and dryer "Performa"!!


Post# 1163428 , Reply# 27   11/8/2022 at 09:06 (533 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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You folks are all aware that one of the Neptune engineering revisions was changing to a solenoid door lock instead of a wax motor, yes?  I don't know when during production that occurred but my neighbor's MAH6500 has a solenoid.


Post# 1163467 , Reply# 28   11/8/2022 at 15:18 (533 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Neptune door lock redesign:

Yes, they addressed the problem promptly.

Post# 1163471 , Reply# 29   11/8/2022 at 17:10 (533 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I always liked the Performa's. Simple design, easy to work on.


Post# 1163480 , Reply# 30   11/8/2022 at 17:56 (533 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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I did too. They may not have had the heavier materials like the dependable care machines but they had a good wash action and many of them lasted 20 years.

Post# 1163575 , Reply# 31   11/10/2022 at 10:46 (531 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
@qsd-dan, What the fudge and holy crap ~

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Shocked that you would undercut the generous luxurious spray rinse on the Maytag. It's seven gallons, man, maybe eight, more than double the measly three you suggest. Check for yourself. Fred Maytag is pissed, LOL.



Post# 1163576 , Reply# 32   11/10/2022 at 10:55 (531 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Need a new lens on the iphone.
Spilled a quart or two, working the hose whilst draining the spray rinse from the Maytag into the Frigidaire. The volume of water nearly fills the Frigidaire. Now that’s a spray rinse, surpassed only by the GM 1-18perhaps.


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Post# 1163668 , Reply# 33   11/11/2022 at 21:49 (530 days old) by Rapunzel (Sydney)        

When Maytag’s management decided to stick their heads up each others’ arses and inhale.

Post# 1163673 , Reply# 34   11/11/2022 at 22:38 (530 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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"Shocked that you would undercut the generous luxurious spray rinse on the Maytag. It's seven gallons, man, maybe eight, more than double the measly three you suggest."

I never measured it, but having a tempering valve skews the results since it adds hot water to the cold water during the fill for a 85F final temp. Winter temps skew the results even more with it adding additional hot water to maintain the target temp, increasing the total water volume. Selecting warm uses a bunch of water being cold+hot for the proper cold temp + hot water, so its cold+hot+hot for 120F. Now with a modified timer motor and a 1:30 spray rinse, it's most likely exceeding 10 gallons during a warm spray rinse. I should install water flow meters on both spigots and get some accurate readings for cold and warm spray rinses as well as monitor them throughout seasonal temperature changes.


Post# 1163677 , Reply# 35   11/11/2022 at 23:28 (530 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I think acquiring Hoover and other brands instead of focusing more on what they already have to improve the products better.

Regarding the Neptunes, I honestly liked those as we had a set before and my grandfather still has his today. They do a great job, they looked so cool especially with the electronic touch screens on ours, and they seem to hold up well for us other than our gas dryer which the motor died after 10 years of use but I would've had it fixed instead of tossing it out.


Post# 1163692 , Reply# 36   11/12/2022 at 10:08 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
whirlpool/maytag

At least Whirlpool used Maytag on their direct drive washers and dryers, and later their tall tub dishwashers.

Post# 1163704 , Reply# 37   11/12/2022 at 12:14 (529 days old) by robbinsandmyers (Conn)        

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I think had Maytag gotten on the China bandwagon very early they could have made the expensive pitman trans there for pennies instead and it would have been just as durable. I think the trans was the biggest cost in building those washers since it was so well built.

Post# 1163718 , Reply# 38   11/12/2022 at 14:03 (529 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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If the 2-belt Maytag washer platform was a better design and more durable then wouldn't Whirlpool reasonably have gone the other direction ... abandoned the direct-drive and labeled the Maytag design as Whirlpool?  And perhaps abandoned the VMW design which surely was already in development in 2006 since it debuted 4 years later in 2010.


Post# 1163720 , Reply# 39   11/12/2022 at 14:36 (529 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
DD vs Dependable Care

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My guess is DDs had more capacity (one of the big reasons DDs sold more), the factory more advanced, easier to service over all, less raw metal, no need to redesign the agitator for more aggressive cleaning, and I'll give a bet that in 2006 Whirlpool had already made a decision to cease DD production as a whole in the next 10 years.

At that point keeping Dependable cares in production would not make any financial sense, considering the average person does not know, or care, about the difference between the two or what took their place altogether.


Now, if everyone was like me the dependable cares would have become the new DDs. Heck, the DDs would never have even caught on to begin with. But sadly, and perhaps less so today but very common back then, US culture tends to be anti intellectual. Not looking for what lasts the longest or the best in the long term, but rather what ticks superficial boxes at the time of purchase.




Post# 1163721 , Reply# 40   11/12/2022 at 14:36 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
...

It would've made more sense. Heck, Maytag could've gone the neutral drain like Whirlpool and later GE did.

Post# 1163723 , Reply# 41   11/12/2022 at 14:39 (529 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Why would Maytag have to go neutral drain when their swirl-away drain is the ultimate in laundry performance?

Post# 1163726 , Reply# 42   11/12/2022 at 15:01 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
most advanced factory

Who had the most advanced factory by far when it comes to laundry?

Post# 1163733 , Reply# 43   11/12/2022 at 15:14 (529 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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From everything I read, Whirlpool. I even remember reading an article that Whirlpool was supposedly shocked at how many years behind Maytag was. But to me, that does not mean much. I find technology like cheese and wine. The older it gets the more delicious it becomes.

Post# 1163738 , Reply# 44   11/12/2022 at 15:49 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
technology

I was thinking whirlpool had the most technology. When did they use the most electronics? Which of the manufacturers had their first website and when?
When did they use their first computer to do research? Did they use the internet? If so, that may explain why Whirlpool had the most advanced technology when it came to laundry.


Post# 1163745 , Reply# 45   11/12/2022 at 16:46 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
maytag right leaning thinking

What was the right leaning thinking of Maytag?

Post# 1164276 , Reply# 46   11/19/2022 at 00:04 (523 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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How many gallons per minute did OEM Maytag center dial fill valves let through?


I'm thinking Maytag could have ditched the deep rinse altogether. That way production could have stayed up until today.


For example:

Fill-

10 minute wash

1 minute pause

3 minute spin

1 minute spin and spray

1 minute spin

1 minute spin and spay

1 minute spin

1 minute spin and spray

5 minutes spin

-Off.

Fits the same cycle time and increments.


Post# 1164277 , Reply# 47   11/19/2022 at 00:47 (523 days old) by Danelto (State College, PA)        
Maytag Atlantis

I was told by a repairman that I had the last of the good Maytags.

I purchased a Maytag Atlantis because weekly laundry was simply not getting done in my house on the GE filter flow in the basement.

That was at least 25 years ago and the machine is still running.

Only thing: the lid switch is busted and I have to stick a chop stick or a screw driver in the little hole to get it to work.

The GE was 2.8 cubic feet. I think the Maytag Atlantis was 3.5 cubic feet.

It's huge.

And when it comes to washing machines, size does matter! LOL


Post# 1164302 , Reply# 48   11/19/2022 at 12:56 (522 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE vs. maytag

I thought the GE was 3.2 cubic feet.

Post# 1164337 , Reply# 49   11/19/2022 at 20:01 (522 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I have never

Understood the whole Maytag worship thing, I mean, they are the most tempermental machine ever built, Ive had 6 of them, one brand new in 1986, none have ever washed more than 3 loads in a row without getting out of balance, if you put the same amount of clothes in one you put in almost any other washer, they struggle and dont wash very well, I grew up with Frigidaires in 1986 our old roller matic finally wore out, Mother bought a new Maytag, it was so bad in a little more than a year She told me to go get a washer that wouldnt cause cursing and swearing, I got a filter flo and had no more problems.


Post# 1164339 , Reply# 50   11/19/2022 at 20:13 (522 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Dan, The Atlantis is a Norge design, and while it holds more and performs much better than a real helical drive MT it was not considered a highly durable machine.

 

How many loads a week has your machine averaged ?

 

John L.


Post# 1164355 , Reply# 51   11/19/2022 at 21:18 (522 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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If you have a Maytag in a house with a raised foundation, they will move since the floor is giving in. Most Maytags were installed in homes that had a solid concrete floor or were in a basement with a concrete floor.

Post# 1164356 , Reply# 52   11/19/2022 at 21:22 (522 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        
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If you have a Maytag in a house with a raised foundation, they will move since the floor is giving in. Most Maytags were installed in homes that had a solid concrete floor or were in a basement with a concrete floor.

Post# 1164379 , Reply# 53   11/20/2022 at 10:14 (521 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I agree

My Aunt bought a 606 extra large washer and matching dryer, used them 33 years, but hers sat on a concrete floor, ours was on wood in our old house.


Post# 1164452 , Reply# 54   11/21/2022 at 00:30 (521 days old) by Danelto (State College, PA)        
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Hi John:

How many loads does that Maytag handle in a week?

Answer: A helluva lot.

It went through four kids and an ex-wife.

I actually got a GE high efficiency in my upstairs.

The reason?

I'm hosting several international scholars.

The scientist from Poland told the toxicologist from Spain that he preferred to use the second rinse option when laundering his clothes. He felt that "American" detergent was too harsh on his clothes.

So. . .this shot through the house likje wildfire and all the scholars I'm hosting this semester started double rinsing their clothes.

Funny how (when you're not paying for the water) that errant idea takes root.

When the Polish scientist washed one towel and double rinsed it, i decided that was the final straw.

When I came up and found the Spanish toxicologist washing three garments and had the water level set to medium with a double rinse, I went for the GE HE pair and had them delivered right away.

They can double rinse all they want in three inches of water!



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