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1979 HotPoint RimFlo
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Post# 1163644   11/11/2022 at 15:47 (530 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        

Hi guys, thought I would post some pics of this machine and I also have a question or two about it. I recently got this machine and it was in disgusting condition to say the least…now that it’s clean(er) it looks decent for its age. Was manufactured in December of 1979 by Camco in Quebec Canada. So it’s coming up on it’s 43rd year! I think the mud that was in it etc. was indicative that it was probably stored for sometime until the seller decided to post it and get rid of it. Either that or it was used to wash work clothes.

After cleaning it out and running it on a full cycle of whites (risky I know) the clothes came out very clean and small amount of lint had been collected in the rim. My biggest fear with transmission oil leaks in these washers was that my whites would come out soaked or spotted with grease (happened to me with a ‘76 Maytag a few years ago). It made a few noises during the cycle that were not normal. A sputtering sound that was intermittent. I’m thinking from the pump. And the brake I think kind of clunks a bit during agitation. However that also is intermittent because the two loads afterwards didn’t have any noises.

The issue is, when looking inside of the machine, it is bone dry in terms of grease/oil leaking until you get to the motor. I’m not sure if all these washers are made this way or it’s just a Canadian filter flo/rim flo design, but the motor is mounted with the pulleys and belt looped on top. Not bottom. This is the first time I’ve seen that. As in a belt drive washer having a motor with the pulley facing upwards and the top of the motor underneath. I’ve never owned a rim flo or filter flo so I’m still figuring things out.

Anyways, like I said no grease or oil anywhere **except** the motor—from what I can tell. The motor is almost soaked in a strong smelling thin grease on the bottom (washes right off your hands) and it’s collected hair and lint due to being wet like that. However, the sides of the motor don’t appear to have any grease, just straight down the middle and out the bottom. The transmission and transmission pulley look like new. Not a drop of grease or oil.

I suppose there’s some way it could of made its way from the transmission into the motor but I’m thinking there’d be grease spread along the cabinet and everywhere else in between if that was the case. I’m amazed with that much grease/oil in it that the motor still runs fine and isn’t sparking or smoking or anything, but it isn’t for now.

Here’s the pics. Don’t know how long the machine will last, but for now it works well and cleans clothes really well, and runs very quietly and smooth other than the occasional intermittent noises I heard on that first load. It’s got a white porcelain tub and a side opening lid. Both of those features are exclusive to Canadian manufactured GE’s and HotPoint’s as far as I know. Sears Canada also interestingly enough had GE make rim-flo style machines for a few years in the 90s with the Kenmore brand name on them.


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Post# 1163651 , Reply# 1   11/11/2022 at 17:06 (530 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

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Congrats on your vintage washer find! Even running in peak condition these machines could be noisy even with intermittent noises. I wouldn’t be concerned. Use it and enjoy.

Post# 1163665 , Reply# 2   11/11/2022 at 20:22 (530 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

I don't know about the exclusitivity of the white tub, but the side opening lid was used for several years on the Hotpoint washers after manufacturing was moved from Hotpoint in Chicago to the GE factories. After a while, they found it more economical to use the same top and back opening lid for both the GE and Hotpoint models.

Post# 1163696 , Reply# 3   11/12/2022 at 11:11 (530 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)        

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Curious--where was the CAMCO plant in Quebec? I know of the former Frigidaire/Electrolux cooking appliance plant in suburban Montreal that closed several years ago, and presume that there was another range plant somewhere that made some of the weird Canadian stove brands (l'Islet, Roy, Moffat).

Post# 1163703 , Reply# 4   11/12/2022 at 12:14 (530 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

I always thought the rim lint filter was a better idea than the agitator-mounted lint pan in GE's.

Post# 1163724 , Reply# 5   11/12/2022 at 14:42 (529 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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I wish we had this in the US. I really like the white tub. I always found the dark tubs, particular without a light, creepy.

Post# 1163728 , Reply# 6   11/12/2022 at 15:04 (529 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.)        
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I've come across about 4 rim-flo models years ago. These were branded as JCPenny and had the side swing lids. The rim flo removed the option of the owner being able to remove the lint as the washer was supposed to fling the lint over the edge of the tub when spinning. This it did do, however...the flaw in their thinking at GE was they assumed the lint balls/gobs would just fall down into the wash tub and be pumped out happily with the wash water.
Nope.
I always found a line of stinking, moldy lint on the line of the upper tub. The wet lint flung off like a wad of gum and smashed into the outer tub and just stuck there.


Post# 1163735 , Reply# 7   11/12/2022 at 15:27 (529 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
Camco plant

I’m not sure exactly where it was but it was somewhere in Montreal as well. Maybe part of the plant you’re talking about? Who knows. I doubt it as they usually only make 1 type of appliance (eg: stove/washers&dryers, fridges) at each factory but maybe.

The cool thing about the side opening lid, even though it would appear small, it can fit an entire laundry basket on top. So it’s convenient if you’re in a small space and waiting for clothes in the dryer and don’t want the empty basket laying on the floor or vibrating off the dryer. I suppose you could also use it to place items that need pre-treating. Or to stack folded items. The only other washers I’ve seen with side opening lids are Kenmore direct drives, and the lid only opens slightly to the side, not the whole way down flat. Surprisingly this machine is quieter than any direct drive I’ve owned or used. Aside from the tub brake when the spin cycle ends, which is very loud.

I find it unique how the outer tub is stationary, and only the inner tub moves during the spin cycle. I’m a bit perplexed as to how that works and what kind of seal/bearing design would have to be used (along with suspension) to achieve and allow for that kind of operation. I see underneath the huge cement counterweight but the rest looks foreign to me. I know there is a tub “boot?” seal on these washers which is large in diameter compared to a seal on most other machines, but I’ve only seen pictures and can’t remember the rest of the setup…


Post# 1163736 , Reply# 8   11/12/2022 at 15:37 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE filter-flo

It's really a GE filter-flo with the hotpoint system and branding.

Post# 1163740 , Reply# 9   11/12/2022 at 15:50 (529 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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This ia a nice machine - I like the white tub! I do perfer a back opening lid!
We had a TOL 77 Hotpoint rim flow it was a very good washer. I perfer the rim flow over the filter flow because those filter pans were always in the way. Ours also had the hand wash adijator. I used to clean the rim flow about once a month when damp by running my hand around the rim and the left over lint would come out.


Post# 1163741 , Reply# 10   11/12/2022 at 16:11 (529 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
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I prefer the GE filter-flo because the pan collected a lot more lint.

Post# 1163749 , Reply# 11   11/12/2022 at 17:02 (529 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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This was our 1977 Hotpoint washer


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Post# 1163753 , Reply# 12   11/12/2022 at 17:27 (529 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Hotpoint!

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PS This above washer wasnt actually ours - I got the pictures from the club!

Post# 1163804 , Reply# 13   11/13/2022 at 11:25 (529 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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No worries. It needed to be pictured. All I can say, what a beautiful machine! Something about this design always gets me.

Post# 1163807 , Reply# 14   11/13/2022 at 12:16 (529 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
good find!

I have a 1980 HP rimflo in collection:) straight vane agitator.


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