Thread Number: 91967
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
kds 20 wash arm bushing |
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Post# 1165195 , Reply# 1   11/30/2022 at 03:43 (510 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 1165222 , Reply# 3   11/30/2022 at 12:42 (510 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1165272 , Reply# 4   11/30/2022 at 19:44 (509 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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It should keep working if you just replace the washer arm and wash arm support as mentioned.
Make sure the machine is working well overall and not leaking underneath. You probably can keep this machine running for a number of years yet, it will not go 38 more years without major work and a lot of it. One of the most common problems on dishwashers as they age is, they don’t get enough water in them to do a proper job due to the time fill system, new inlet valve is almost always necessary by this age if it hasn’t already been replaced do check the water level. John L |
Post# 1165365 , Reply# 6   12/2/2022 at 04:36 (508 days old) by nsheppard (Boston)   |   | |
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Are you taking about the white piece here? How is it removed? Very securely attached to the shaft.
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Post# 1165366 , Reply# 7   12/2/2022 at 07:21 (508 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The white bushings are not removable from the stainless steel shaft they’re permanently assembled. You have to it’s the round black plastic thing secured with four screws underneath filter .
I can see from your picture that the bronze bushing has come out of your wash arm. That part is supposed to be permanently assembled into the wash arm, if your washer arm still in good condition, remove the bushing from the stainless steel shaft, any epoxy it back into the wash arm otherwise, the wash arm will need to be replaced. It’s not meant to be operating this way. It looks like this dishwasher and reply number six ihas quite a mineral build up. I can’t be doing that great job on the glassware with that kind of build up you need to be using hotter water, better detergent and probably a lot more of it. John. |
Post# 1165533 , Reply# 9   12/3/2022 at 22:28 (506 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Your upper wash arm support has been replaced once already. I never saw an original one with the plastic bushing, those came later on.
Agree with Steve, new upper support and wash arm. I would do a seal and impeller if there's no leaks below the motor. When the seal goes, it drips water down the motor shaft and takes out the motor bearings and it's new motor time. Perform a water level check to make sure the inlet valve screen isn't plugged. When the dishwasher stops filling up on the main cycle, stop the dishwasher and let the water drain down for a minute or so. Pull the lower rack and note the water level. It should be just above the the top of the removable filter screen. If it's lower than this, you need a new inlet valve. |
Post# 1165570 , Reply# 10   12/4/2022 at 12:48 (506 days old) by jerryp (Chicago)   |   | |
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Thanks for everyone's help. What is the difference between 4162724 and 241549? Ebay has both. Will either work on KDS 20? |
Post# 1166489 , Reply# 11   12/13/2022 at 15:30 (497 days old) by jerryp (Chicago)   |   | |
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What's the difference between 4162724 and 241549? also, what's the p/n for lower rack for KDS-20? Thanks |
Post# 1166499 , Reply# 12   12/13/2022 at 19:24 (496 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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What's the difference between 4162724 and 241549?
241549 is the old part#, 4162724 is the new part#. The original part# for the lower rack is E-116157 but it was superseded many times over the years. You can use a lower rack from any kitcheniad dishwasher well into the 1990's and still have a factory appearance. |
Post# 1168309 , Reply# 13   1/4/2023 at 15:29 (475 days old) by jerryp (Chicago)   |   | |
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Thanks for everyone's input. My lower rack is losing tines at a rapid rate. qsd-dan posted that any rack through the '90s would work. Anyone have a p/n or source for a rack to fit KDS-20? |
Post# 1168322 , Reply# 14   1/4/2023 at 17:39 (475 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 1168372 , Reply# 15   1/5/2023 at 13:41 (474 days old) by jerryp (Chicago)   |   | |
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Deep pockets is right! Any other suggestions? |
Post# 1168376 , Reply# 16   1/5/2023 at 14:15 (474 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 1168378 , Reply# 17   1/5/2023 at 14:27 (474 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)   |   | |
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I have a NOS 4162724 support OEM in box. Let me know. |
Post# 1168385 , Reply# 18   1/5/2023 at 16:34 (474 days old) by jerryp (Chicago)   |   | |
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Turned down my offer. I wish it was just the tips. The tines are breaking off at the bottom; 10 years late on preventative maintenance. Shame on me. |