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Thread Number: 92165
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Bare bones GE Range |
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Post# 1167302 12/23/2022 at 12:02 (482 days old) by goatfarmer  (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 1167305 , Reply# 1 12/23/2022 at 12:13 (482 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Hmmm | ||
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Post# 1167315 , Reply# 2 12/23/2022 at 14:06 (482 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Not bad looking It does have a strange mix of features, though. No clock, no light, but deluxe trim around the oven window, wide handles, and chrome side trim on the cooktop. Reminds me of one of the "specials" the local GE dealer would have had on display. | ||
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Post# 1167330 , Reply# 3 12/23/2022 at 16:51 (482 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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Post# 1167333 , Reply# 4 12/23/2022 at 16:53 (482 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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No exterior light | ||
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Post# 1167339 , Reply# 5 12/23/2022 at 17:29 (482 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 1167340 , Reply# 6 12/23/2022 at 17:37 (482 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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I like the simplicity of this stove too. The only thing that I wouldn’t have especially liked about this stove is the pushbutton controls being on the top edge of the back panel. I think they would have been difficult for some shorter users to see and having to reach over a high pot may have been a problem at times as well.
Eddie | ||
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Post# 1167344 , Reply# 7 12/23/2022 at 17:57 (482 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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I would have preferred that the oven controls be closer to the center. These look difficult to reach if there are pots on the back burners. | ||
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Post# 1167345 , Reply# 8 12/23/2022 at 17:59 (482 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Post# 1167393 , Reply# 9 12/24/2022 at 01:25 (481 days old) by bradfordwhite (central U.S.) |
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That rear control panel looks similar to some of the Mark 27 models
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Post# 1167404 , Reply# 10 12/24/2022 at 06:10 (481 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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My Kind of Range | ||
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Post# 1167413 , Reply# 11 12/24/2022 at 08:09 (481 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 1167418 , Reply# 12 12/24/2022 at 08:39 (481 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Basic GE electric range
Unusual model never saw one with that control panel before most had the one piece, cooktop and control panel, which which much easier to clean and I think prettier.
GE ranges were very well-made and function. Well, the only thing I didn’t like about these ranges that were not self cleaning was GE did not have much insulation in their oven door, etc. It almost looks like the trailer is missing that came with it, lol GE mark 27 ranges were used in many homes. There’s a large community of 1800 homes near me here in Beltsville, where that was the range in every single home, including large four-bedroom homes. The mark 27‘s were also extensively used in retirement communities, etc. I even saw kitchens where they put two of them in very large homes so you could have two ovens. John. | ||
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Post# 1167422 , Reply# 13 12/24/2022 at 09:19 (481 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Looking back Looking back to 1968, 1969 and 1970 catalogues, it appears that this style range started out as something of a 'crossover' model that blended GE and Hotpoint cabinets and features. As I've stated before, I don't have access to a 1971 catalogue, so the first time I see this exact range is 1972. Prior to that, it was as if GE took the Mark 27 console, extended it 3" and put it on a Hotpoint range. Those ranges have the light switch on the oven door on the left side (always a Hotpoint feature), the oven door completely covers the cabinet (GE models had the cabinet extending to the front and the door inset between the side extensions), and there was a deeper space between the cooktop and the top of the oven door (similar to how Roper built their ranges). Since Hotpoint didn't always use the upswept cooktop, it was easy enough to install the separate console on the range. But by 1972 the cabinet was the customary GE version, lacking the upswept cooktop. Incidentally, in 1973/1974 GE began to phase out their old cabinets and went to the type where the oven door was fully 30" wide and the cabinet stopped behind the door.
With regard to the Mark 27, rear consoles were only added (and required) after these ranges could be fitted with the P7 oven. Until then, all controls were on the front of the range. But the operating controls for the self-cleaning feature required room so GE added the console to accommodate, and the result was a GE range without an upswept cooktop.
The biggest selling feature for the Mark 27 was it's supposed compactness (eventually loosing it's 'Mark 27' badge and being marketed as a 'Spacemaker' range). However, the truth was it really didn't save space as much as it wasted it. Once the homebuilding industry began to use pre-manufactured cabinets, which were built on a 3" module) these ranges still required 30" of space in order to align wall and base cabinets. They would require a 1-1/2" wide filler on each side of the range to make up the difference. Also, not only did they still require the same 30" width of a conventional freestanding range, but they lacked the traditional storage drawer. More wasted space. When the Mark 27 was originally introduced (circa 1960) kitchen cabinets were typically built onsite or in a shop for a particular installation, and thereby didn't waste that 3", but once manufactured cabinets became the norm, a lot of the perceived value of this installation was lost.
lawrence | ||
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Post# 1167451 , Reply# 15 12/24/2022 at 15:35 (481 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Installing a mark 27GE drop in range
These are never installed in a cabinet but rather you leave a 27 inch wide space between two cabinets. The range is not attached in anyway to the side cabinets it is supported entirely by the countertop.
It’s true you do not get a storage drawer unless you have one custom-made to match your cabinetry. no contractor that knows what he’s doing would ever put one in a 30 inch space with filler strips on each side. I did see it done once but the guy didn’t know what he’s doing. But no builder would do that. It’s just a waste of space and materials and defeats the whole purpose of buying a 27 inch range John | ||
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Post# 1167457 , Reply# 16 12/24/2022 at 16:26 (481 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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John, I disagree. As clarification, I'm basing my comments on builder quality and multifamily properties, not custom built homes. If a contractor purchased manufactured wood cabinets from a manufacturer, and he/she intended to install a 27" drop-in range, he/she would allow 30" width for the range; unless he/she shopped for and purchased a 27" wide range hood over said 27" drop-in range. I think 27" hoods were available, but in most cases they would be special order. Home builders were/are going to find 30" and 36" hoods all day long at supply houses. A 30" hood installed over a 27" range would need a 1-1/2" adjustment on both sides of the range. Only in the case of totally custom built kitchen cabinetry would he/she be able to have a 30" wall space centered over a 27" base space. Manufactured cabinets are built in multiples of 3", 1-1/2 differences cannot be accommodated with the cabinetry.
I have included a link to a Wellborn Cabinets catalog that shows what that manufacturer offers for this situation. It's typical of 99% of cabinet manufacturers. The link is to page 122 and the item is RF30 (Range Front 30"), illustrated in the upper left corner of the page. If the builder were installing a 30" drop-in, he/she would use the RB30 (Range Base 30"), also illustrated. Both of these functions similar to a Sink Front, ILU of an actual cabinet. In both cases, the weight of the range would be supported by the countertop.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO pulltostart's LINK | ||
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Post# 1167460 , Reply# 17 12/24/2022 at 17:33 (481 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Installing a mark 27 inch range
We saw many mark 27 inch ranges installed with 30 inch hoods over them. It doesn’t make any difference the wall cabinets don’t have anything to do with the base cabinets.
All you have to do as I mentioned before is leave a 27 inch space has nothing to do with the cabinets. Yes you may buy the 30 inch filler that goes below a drop in range and you saw it down to 27 inches and you’re done I don’t think you’ve seen nearly as many of these installed as I have I’ve worked on 100s of these in the Washington area. John | ||
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Post# 1167472 , Reply# 18 12/24/2022 at 20:52 (480 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Installation instructions
Here is a helpful link that should help you understand the base cabinets have nothing to do with the installation of a drop in range, particularly a GE 27in range of any vintage.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Combo52's LINK | ||
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Post# 1167488 , Reply# 19 12/24/2022 at 23:04 (480 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Nearly every installation I've ever seen used the range front cabinet like RF30 in the catalog Lawrence linked to. I have friends with the newer version (Space maker 27), that I plan to visit tomorrow. I will check out how it's installed. The customary way to install may vary from one region to another. | ||
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Post# 1167493 , Reply# 20 12/24/2022 at 23:23 (480 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Installing a GE maker, 27 inch range
Hi Tom, please take pictures of your friends tomorrow and post them, also look at the picture in the link that I posted that shows how GE wants the range installed.
It would be absolutely ridiculous to install this range in a 30 inch space it would be like buying an 18 inch dishwasher and installing it at 24 inch space. The entire purpose of this range is to save space 3 inches can make a big difference in a tight kitchen. I’m sure there have been a few bungled kitchen jobs or somebody bought this range and the contractor left 30 inches but no contractor building hundreds of houses would ever make such a mistake . John hope everybody has a happy holiday and a great new year. | ||
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